Also, she had that line of purses or underwear or something.

She may have felt burned before, but no one made her do any of the stuff. She could have faded into anonymity. But, no.

Yes -- purses. I actually have one, LOL. My handbag fetish knows no bounds.

I personally think she wasn't too bright if she expected to give the most famous and powerful man in the world oral sex and keep it a secret. She knew he was the president. She was the one who blurted first, not Clinton. Nice girls don't kiss and tell. (Or nice boys, for that matter.) If she had kept her mouth shut (no pun intended) then she would have much less to worry about. But then she wouldn't have her own TV show and handbag line either. Fame comes at a price.

I don't understand. You said he was skinny. Listen I don't think you know his measurements and you've got me confused. There is no way that a man can be a size 38 waist and be skinny or in shape - there is fat on the gut.

-Rudey

Nobody claimed that Monica is bright. :p

I find it quite funny how none of the "Monica was a victim" posters have any comebacks

That's because there is no comeback...you don't do what she has done over the past two years if you're ashamed, victimized, etc. by what's happened.

She's played herself up for all it's worth.

Since you're that curious...
 

No, I still think it's a matter of opinion. Part of maturity is knowing when to speak and when to let others rant around you.

Exactly, this "she was the victim" garbage is a total load. She took what happened and turned it into "Monica TV" and capitalized off of it anyway she could (books, purses, etc).

In any event, unless any of us on GC are Monica we may never have any idea if she was really a victim or not. Some people try to get to the top in very disturbing ways...

Definitely - I mean, I can't say that it didn't affect her in some negative way, and I definitely have no idea of what she was thinking (or not thinking) when she made the decisions she did.

Her actions since have been questionable though; it's an odd choice to try to parlay that situation into being a sort of "Queen of all Media." I'm sorry, it's just tough for me to visualize her as too much of a victim in all this.

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Some of us would like to have an intelligent conversation, not a rant. :)

If someone's going to make an argument, they need to have supporting facts to back it up. And there should be a back and forth. I thought I was asking a legitimate question as to how she is a victim when she's just used it to make so much money and fame for herself?

You know i've got love for you, my fellow Pittsburgher, though our political leanings are vastly different. :)

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Oh, I realize. :) I also think that I should have added that, while I think she was originally used by a sexual predator, she (or some savvy advisor) certainly turned the pr to some good use.

I'm certainly not a big fan of hers. I think my reaction is from seeing SO MUCH of this in my DC/political years, and it was always the not-so-smart young women that got taken for a ride.

And I got lotsa 'burgh love for you, too, kddani!! :)

A lot of the assumptions thats Monica was abused by Clinton assumes that he had a moral imperative to "Save people from themselves" as well as a moral doctrine that chooses to view what others want to do as wrong.

Monica wasn't abused by Clinton. Or if she was, almost every women that has a sexual relationship with a man that doesn't end up happily ever after could be said to be "abused" by the male.

Monica was abused by Linda Trip who decided to capitalize on Monica's experience for paybak.

She was also abused by Kenneth Star who put her through the Ringer in an attempt to Bring Clinton down.

And she was definitely abused by the media who just saw as a fun way to sell airtime.

Didn't she brag to a friend (before she met Clinton) that she was going to Washington with her presidential kneepads? If that was true, she had an agenda, and she was never a victim of anything but herself.

I have a problem with that statement.

She seemed to use the media as much as the media used her. She made appearances on the Tom Green show and other venues that she obviously wouldn't have otherwise made had she not given the sitting pres. head.

She still continues to enjoy the fame -- and she will never be found to be financially strapped because of it. If I recall correctly, she was hooked up with an excellent job with some makeup firm after the whole thing went down that she probably wouldn't have otherwise received. She's now a celebrity -- and you know there's a book coming out that she'll make millions off of.

a second one?? for the love of g-d, the chick just needs to fade away into obscurity. i'm so tried of hearing about her.

I know that Monica Lewinsky had been offered a job at Revlon through Vernon Jordan's connections which was rescinded when the story broke.

If there's money to be made and a publisher thinks they can get folks to buy her book, then why not?

Just a quick comment about the Monica situation... One of my friends at the Gore campaign had been Monica's supervisor while at the White House.

According to him, Monica was constantly finding ways of getting to the president. He had trouble keeping up with her while she was working. He said something to her more than a few times. But, SHE kept pursuing the situation.

After working/interning at the campaign, having a friend who interned at the WH, and knowing people who were in the WH as staffers during the ordeal, I have NOOOOOOO sympathy for her. It takes two to have oral sex, etc. She had people asking her to stop. She could have at any time told them she needed to be reassigned. She didn't. She kept trying to keep it going.

I for one really appreciate this information. Until now, I hadn't heard about her supervisor and what was up with her & her "job". I could possibly change my entire view on this, due to this post!