i just so happened to run into the story above...

what very sweet, patient ladies you all are! ok let me stop being PC and nice...most groups would have beat her down lol! that is one of the craziest stories ever, it would make for an awesome movie!

Well, I guess she gave you what for.

Seriously Jocelyn...you win this thread.

This is a little OT, but what is COB/COR? :o

Is it what we used to call Spring Rush/Mini Rush?

Never mind, I got it! 'Continuous Open Bidding/Recruitment'. I love Google. :o:)

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Jocelyn, your story takes the cake! I am leaning toward giving that ho a good beat down! Glenn Close from "Fatal Attraction" eat your heart out

I was thinking the same thing. (Don't let Suzie near the bunnies.)

First my disclaimer. Jocelyn, I am sorry this happened to you and your chapter and very happy that it ended well for y'all. However, I have to admit (guilty pleasure here) that I have enjoyed reading about "Suzie". The story, and your telling of it, was quite riveting. Lets hope that there aren't any additional "updates".

You better hope to God that she doesn't find out about AI. :eek:

Ok, so I have been reading these stories, and I can honestly say that I'm a little more nervous about recruitment in the fall (I will be a sophomore). I just hope my chapter doesn't get any extreme cases!

If she acted like that in college, I'm sure if she finds out about AI and she does pursue it that the alumnae members would figure her out too because one, it takes much longer to be considered for membership if one goes about it that way and two, I don't think she would want to wait that long, especially since she threw such a hissy fit about not getting in. If one alumnae chapter doesn't think she would be a good member and she tries to contact another, soon enough her reputation would get out about her to National Headquarters and her chances of being considered for membership are what 0? It's sad that people are that desperate these days.

Don't be nervous! Usually, these cases are not all that common. But every now and then, there is bound to be a weirdo going through. Most people don't go that far--if they don't get in, they just go to another house, where they feel more like they belong. :)

Well, there is always AI. ;)

Seriously though, this has got to be the funniest thread I've ever read.

jocelyn your story totally gave me chills..and not the good kind! here at my chapter we have a few PNMs that just wont quit but they arent NEAR as crazy as that girl!!!!!

:eek: It never ceases to amaze me how psychotic people allow themselves (and the people close to them) to get.

jocelyn - looks like you have another one...

I PM'd you about it!

Our sorority was finally installed this semester after a two-year period as a colony. We didn't have too many strange PNMs during the process, but a couple stand out.

One girl went through FR and was cut by all 4 sororities on campus. She returned to two Sigma CORs that semester, and another one in the following semester. We just couldn't believe she didn't get the message.

Another girl, a friend of the first, attended one of our CORs and during an icebreaker, announced to the group that she had set herself on fire and gone through some type of torture experiment......

Needless to say, neither ended up with an invitation to join. BUT, when our colony was under intense pressure to get more members, they both found out about it and emailed our recruitment dir. to volunteer to join!

Since I hinted at this in my musical rush thread, I have to tell you about Socially Freaky Girl.

SFG went through rush with me and did not get into any a cappella group. She came out to audition again the first time that I was on the "other side." I was so concerned that she would harass the other PNMs, the way she'd clung to me, that we did not even call her back for the first round.

Several weeks later, she recognized a member of my group on the campus shuttle bus. Remember, he is a virtual stranger to her. She asked him when the callback list would go up.

He said, "Um, it went up the next morning, just like we said at the audition." (He didn't add: you weren't on it!)

She: "What?? You mean it's too late for me to come to the callback?"

He: "Well...we've already admitted and initiated the two newbies for this semester."

She: "I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED MY CHANCE! STUPID, STUPID! I ALWAYS MESS IT UP!!" And she started banging her head against the wall of the bus! :eek::eek:

BTW, I googled her, and she's now a PhD candidate with several publications in a challenging field at a world-famous university, so she's very successful. It's good to see that she's doing so well...but I surely don't regret that cut.
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Yes, academic intelligence is not the same as social/emotional intelligence, that is for certain.

I was just thinking the same thing.


Good idea.

I don't know, people love a train wreck, it would be hilarious to hear more...but how can you top that? Seriously thought, for the sake of your chapter, I hope she is completely done.

this is gonna sound stupid, but what does PNM stand for? :confused:

PNM = Potential New Member.

Awww...I was disapointed when this thread was bumped, and there were no new addtions.

The only good story I have is that 2 girls who were New Members when my chapter closed, still claim to be ASAs. I don't think either of them have even been through the Phoenix (pledging) ceremony, let alone initiation. I haven't seen either recently, but I know one of them has ASA listed on her MySpace, and the other one was wearing block letters and carrying a tote and keyring a year after we closed. The one that continued to wear letters wants to AI, but she has yet (almost 5 years later, and she was a Jr. when she was bid) to finish a degree, so is not eligible.

Me too!

Aw, I kind of feel bad for them. It's the only group they ever knew, and it's not like they left the group (or never got a bid); they got a bid and then the group left them.

It seems more sad than psycho to me, but maybe a lot of things are both.

Dropping her like a hot potato?

Having the Rho Chi's take her to the counseling center if(when) she's dropped from all chapters?

Honestly, I really think the administration at your college is doing a disservice to that young women and all the groups by even allowing her to rush after the stuff from last year.

I know that everyone is hesitant to act unless there's a clear cut blanket policy, but someone should man or women up and call her in to talk to her that her behavior last year was not within acceptable boundaries, and as a result panhellenic does not want her to participate in recruitment again.

If she fights it, then let her rush with the understanding that she will be cut out after first round. and that the mental health center will be in contact with her.

Maybe someone (and I know from personal experience that this is difficult) from the university can contact her parents and inform them of her behavior. Even though she's not "hurting" anybody she's mentally affecting others and that's not okay. And as a member of Panhellenic I totally would have told her I "ran out of forms" and if she paid online I would boot her from the system and refund her money through the ICS. I definitely would not force the chapters to see someone who has this type of behavior nor allow her to do this to herself again. Obviously talking to her does no good. Does your school have GPA requirements to rush? Does she fulfill them? (You'd think that her crying must get in the way of an education). Or a judicial council that XY can file an official complaint with? They can force her to get help and suspend/expel her from school if she refuses to do so if there is enough of a problem. I should know, I had a harasser of mine (someone who no one would have expected) suspended from school until that person got counseling. And I had a "stay away" order sent to this person via campus police (it's not quite a restraining order but it formally lets this person know that you do not want them near you). Perhaps that is an option.

Although I agree that actually barring her from registration might be hard or even impossible, I happen to think that people can tell her not to rush.

The director of student activities or dean of students or whatever you got can call her into his/her office and say, "We do not think that your participation in recruitment is a good idea based on last year's experience. We are refunding your registration fee and strongly discourage any attempts on your part to re-register."

Because she's established that she's crazy, she might not heed the warning, but it seems that having made clear that her participation is unwelcome, it's going to be easier for groups to call the cops if she shows up after she's been released.

And again, it's really hard to accept that the college is taking this woman's issues very seriously. It seems to me that the campus climate about crazy people might be a little different post Virginia Tech (not that she's that kind of crazy) and that the school should be doing more here. It's kind of appalling that they are so committed to not dealing with it.

Holy Crap! That's one freaking weirdo right there. I'd be worried too that she'd do something twisted like hurt herself or a sister in her desperation to be a part of them.

I'd be willing to bet that she has the grades—based on what KSUV06 has posted previously, she's capable of pulling it together and presenting normally under different circumstances. I really hope she gets the help she needs ...

While you may not be able to stop her from rushing, I'd suggest seeing if someone from the counseling center would be willing to be around for any PNM who is dropped but particularly for this girl.

I figured most of the chapters would drop her based on her behavior. I feel bad assuming she won't get a bid, but lets face it. She won't get a bid.

My stories are not nearly as dramatic, but that's probably a good thing.

I had a "friend" who was going through recruitment (we hold it in January) and all during fall semester, she talked about how much she LOVED Kappa and knew all these sisters and couldn't wait to be one of us. I had just initiated the year before, so I was pretty excited about Kappa too, and didn't think it was that wierd. Well, January comes and I am really pulling for this girl, and two sisters announce they were her (neutral) orientation leaders and she was a BEYOTCH to them. It turns out she was incredibly manipulative and totally fooled those of us who were her "friends". She was obviously cut and never even made eye contact with me again!

A girl from my high school was showing some signs of wierdness/instability at the end of senior year. She assumed everything her sister had done would be handed to her on a platter. (not an easy act to follow - captain of the cheerleading squad, homecoming court, now a successful lawyer). Her sister had been in one of the best sororities at UGA and she thought she was "guaranteed" a bid. She went to each of the houses and said things like "So I hear you're the bitchy sorority?" :eek: She ended up dropping out of school altogether and living at home again. Last I heard she was taking pre-recs for law school at a local college.

To answer some of your questions:

*PHC and the Greek Life staff have determined that since she meets all the requirements, they can't prevent her from rushing.

*We do have a university judicial affairs system, and XY did consult a representative. He told them that they didn't have case because she hasn't violated a university conduct rule (basically unless she causes harm or threatens them, she can't be brought to student court).

*The chapter has alerted the university police and they have said that if she is seen on the property again that she'll be arrested for trespassing.

What do you think about how they are handling it, KSUViolet?

I know I've jumped in and been all judgmental, but as someone on the scene, do you think they are doing enough?



Do you think Greek Life is just be cowardly?

So if the police are willing to arrest her for tresspassing wouldn't that prevent her from attending the chapter during recruitment?

I believe it would only apply to invite parties.

As I understand it, if you sign up for recruitment, then you are at least "invited" to the "open" (first) parties. At the point in the rounds or parties where she is *not* invited (i.e. not on the list), then she would be tresspassing if she showed up etc. And of course if she shows up during any other time when she isn't invited. (i.e. between rounds, after being cut etc.)

Otherwise, it seems like they would have to have a restraining order to keep her from attending the open (first) party.