Hey hey hey let's stop w/ the ADD comments, lol.

It's never too late to seek help. No offense to those who have it. Rudey may have it, too.

Let me invite you to visit beautiful Surrey BC! ;)

Pot..meet kettle....you're black!!!


you are sensitive. that's why you proceeded to write a dissertation on why you should recieve the nobel peace prize because of what you did in HICH SCHOOL. goes to show how easily offended and oversensitive you are.

A stripper and a gang member are very different things! A stripper is much better.

Actually I said I didn't want gang members in my fraternity, you moved it beyond that discussion and made it racial because you couldn't concentrate.

Here's a tip. If you crush the adderal and snort it, it works a lot faster.

BTW I didn't say gangs were good or bad...I said they were bad. My fraternity has very few black members simply because very few black males want to join the Jewish fraternity. Regardless me saying I don't want gangs in MY fraternity would indicate to you I find non black gangs bad.

And for someone with such subspecialties you'd think you could name even one. I named a local one. FMK. Do a google search or something and pretend you knew.

-Rudey

i call it more a case of oversensitivity.

If I was crying, it was only at your sheer stupidity.

Happy ad hominen attack day, GC!

And Happy Easter to all the Roman Catholics and I guess the Anglicans too. But nobody else.

wow....someone's skin has officially been breached.

Right. Only the stupid acknowledge the stupidity of others.

Marinate on that and have a seat, somewhere.

Constantly have nothing to add but insults to me. I said what I did in college. You said you went to chicken college. I don't have time to sit here and bawk bawk bawk with you so I'll put you on ignore again. Thanks for sweating me.

-Rudey

nice try....but if that's the only insult you can come with...go right ahead.

The last time my skin was breached was when I had surgery to remove a pilonidal cyst. Go look that up and have fun losing your lunch. :D

BTW, what are all you grown-ass people doing on GC all day? I'm on Easter Break, but y'all should have jobs, since your'e "college-educated" and whatnot.

*sigh*

I moved it beyond that and made it racial b/c you predicted the thread would become racial. You're slow...I know.

Now...the rest of your post is strange. We're talking about "white" gangs, who you say aren't really gangs....versus REAL gangs, that people think are basically "minority" gangs. So...the point is in how this racialized society racially ratonalizes things, such as deviant behavior.

Now...no need to do a google search. I know they exist and they are actually "gangs," according to the textbook definition. If you need to know names...that just shows that you can't take the general and apply it to the specific. Too bad for you :(

So hey I know a child molestor and rapist or two that want to go to college and join the Greek system. They were in some gang. I can't think of the name. I was wondering which of you wanted them first. I hear they did community service and picked up trash along the highway.

-Rudey
--Anyone? Come on...someone?

Stop thinking so hard. You'll confuse yourself.

Strippers are much more dirty.

No it shows that someone actually has even slight evidence. I know one of them. You don't even know one of them. I don't deny they exist or they're bad but you argue like I do.

By the way, I know the Tooth fairy personally. I can't name name or show pictures but you should be able to take the general and apply it to the specific and such nonesense.

-Rudey

Interesting. Since you're smart, I don't have to tell you that child molestation and rape are crimes. Being in a gang, in many places, isn't a crime and you usually can't be arrested for it. Now, if you're associated to criminal behavior, that's a different thing. We already established that many gang members do not commit crimes and those they commit are often petty offenses (which often pale in comparison to child molestation and rape).

Come on doesn't anyone want the rapist wearing their letters? I bet he'll beat someone up for you if he thinks they're pretending those are their letters.

-Rudey
--Anyone? Anyone?

You know one of them...yet you say they don't exist? Oh, I get it...the one YOU know doesn't use colors or handsigns. So, that's enough for you to speak on and call it "evidence."

Interesting.

So now this is an issue of gangs that don't do criminal activities. I guess it's like one of those honor societies. Kids show up and do community service and go to Church.

Hey if you don't want that person. I have another one. She held up a store and the charges got dropped to a misdemeanor because the owner didn't die from the gunshot wound. Want her?

-Rudey

When did I say white gangs don't exist? Wow Patrick Ewing must have really outscored you on the SATs.

-Rudey

It's an issue of gangs...PERIOD.

YOU ALL applied your misconceptions and exaggerations of gangs to this topic. You all just blanket said you would not want a former member in your org. I respect that opinion, but know that gangs and their activities do not necessarily fit the stereotypes.

Hmmm...care to go back and read your earlier posts? You said that these groups exist, but they do not fit the textbook definition of "gangs." Whether you know it or not, your misconception perpetuates the dismissal of these groups as "gangs."

So, let's not be coy...man up and follow the flow of the convo.

Please tell me about the gangs that don't do community service. Let me guess...no names again?

As a member of my organization with influence, I will use influence in my organization as I please. You can talk about making misconceptions all you want and are free to take the violent and the sexual offenders, but I will make decisions for my fraternity. Perhaps your dues can help pay bail for them. By the way do you take 3 time offenders? I hope you don't make misconceptions about them.

Again, I said it depends on what bad they did, how severe it was, and in what context of good the bad was. Real blanket statement.

-Rudey
--So are you game on the killer or do you want the rapist only?

I said that about the neighborhoods in Chicago.

I guess manning up means you can read. Seriously you must communicate with smoke signs and pictures a lot because this obviously isn't your medium of choice.

-Rudey

Hmmm...did you say that? Yeah right.

Have a good afternoon. :)

No, that's not what "man up" means...it means own up to your own words and stop getting confused in your own tangents.

But, either way...your previous post has effectively back tracked and taken back some of your earlier words.

We now agree on the basic premise of this thread.

Good day :)

OK I've got a fire going here and I'm hoping you understand things because obviously reading is difficult for you. Hold on did you get that smoke signal? You're lucky because I don't do this for everyone.

-Rudey

im not trying to learn the secrets of your "process" but to say you know everything about the past of a prospective member is absolutely retarded.

What about the mafia?

I'd almost like to seriously answer the question originally asked, but what's the point when these threads just go straight into the "trainwreck" file?

Who knows, valkyrie. I made a serious reply a few pages back now, and it got lost amidst all the penis-measuring.

Me too!

Ginger,

we can have our own convo! I know you said you were being vague, but how on earth can an org know anything with complete certainty?

Wow, I'm feeling the Panhellenic love and I'm sure your sisters are all very proud you're a Phi Mu.

That being said, you have no idea how we do recruitment, but we know the girls aren't criminals or gang members.

*sigh*

While not the best worded post, I think it's fairly accurate to say that people can never *know* for sure anything about a person's past.

For example, is the criminal who hasn't been caught yet still a criminal? How could you tell? Or take something like the Witness Protection Program, which invents a new past, present and future for people, right down to new official documents. It's rather difficult to discover if someone was a petty thief or low level gang member if they've traded their past for immunity and protection. For all intensive purposes, that person doesn't exist anymore.

I'm sure all orgs take care in selecting members -- it makes sense to be careful in choosing who represents you. However, there's only so much that we as non-omnipotent human beings can actually know.

You're right. Perhaps this will pacify you. 1 out of ever 1000 brothers might have some horrible past being in a gang that he covered up. That ridiculously high odd places us at a 0.1%. I'm glad we talked about this point.

-Rudey

I guess that I am confused because I thought being in a gang meant engaging in gang activity which is a crime. Maybe my definition of gang is incorrect. Please clarify this for me. Thanks.

Yeah, I am confused. Wouldn't a group of people who dress in similar colors, hang out together, etc. but do NOT commit crimes or violent acts just be considered a clique or a club? I associate the term gang with violence. Is this an ignorant definition? I'm very interested to know more.