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ladygreek 02-05-2004 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
This was my first time ever watching the Super Bowl for obvious reasons :o :D and I really enjoyed the game. I talked to a friend of mine who said in all of her years of watching it, this was actually a very exciting game that could have gone either way at a couple of times during the game. Sadly everyone is talking about the show and not the game. :(

Oh and when I asked about Lil Kim vs. Janet, I was being facetious again.

I believe the FCC has let a lot of things go in recent years in terms of language and what is seen and not seen on TV. I remember the first time I heard B **** on TV (was watching 90210) and I thought my ears were playing tricks on me. It was only a matter of time before a breast was shown. :( Not that I condone the breast, but . . .

I really believe that it was a publicity stunt for Janet on many levels. Her name is not as out there as Beyonce's. Sad that she felt that she had to lower herself in THIS way to get her name mentioned on TV, the Internet, message boards, etc. etc. etc. 100000000 times a day, but such is life.

I blame R. Kelly, lol.

Has the NAACP said anything about this yet?

I should have known you were being facetious :) But your last question is on point! Hmmmm!

ladygreek 02-05-2004 12:30 PM

Re: Re: Re: halftime concerts *boooooooo*
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DoggyStyle82
Go 'head Mama, a football fan and a Delta, 2/3 of a perfect woman.
Well, football season was always interesting in our household--me being a staunch Vikings fan and my daughter being a staunch Cowboys fan. Don't know where I went wrong in raising that child. :D

CrimsonTide4 02-05-2004 12:47 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: halftime concerts *boooooooo*
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Well, football season was always interesting in our household--me being a staunch Vikings fan and my daughter being a staunch Cowboys fan. Don't know where I went wrong in raising that child. :D
Well at least she is a Soror. . . :p

AKA2D '91 02-05-2004 01:01 PM

So Justin hasn't been pulled from the Grammys? :confused:

ETA: So his family wasn't appalled at his "Cry Me a River" video where he is filming/watching ole girl in the shower like a voyeur? :confused:

STFU WTFE DIMFBS

CrimsonTide4 02-05-2004 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
So Justin hasn't been pulled from the Grammys? :confused:

ETA: So his family wasn't appalled at his "Cry Me a River" video where he is filming/watching ole girl in the shower like a voyeur? :confused:

STFU WTFE DIMFBS


I know the first 2 sets of acronyms, but that last one has me feeling like Miss Sophia in The Color Purple. . . con. . . . .. . .. fused.:(


oops never mind I got it. :) :D

Neosoulchild 02-05-2004 09:01 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: halftime concerts *boooooooo*
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Well, football season was always interesting in our household--me being a staunch Vikings fan and my daughter being a staunch Cowboys fan. Don't know where I went wrong in raising that child. :D
Wait a minute... She's just fine. The COWBOYS are the BEST team in the league :D we just wanted to let some other people win the super bowl for a while, but we will be back shortly.
GO COWBOYS!!! :D :D :D

Love_Spell_6 02-05-2004 10:03 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: halftime concerts *boooooooo*
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Neosoulchild
Wait a minute... She's just fine. The COWBOYS are the BEST team in the league :D we just wanted to let some other people win the super bowl for a while, but we will be back shortly.
GO COWBOYS!!! :D :D :D

Nahh both of you are wrong....its RAY LEWIS time next year!!!....I can't wait to hear ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOOTBALLLL!!!!

But i will settle for seeing Donovon McNabb get it ;)

ladygreek 02-05-2004 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
I know the first 2 sets of acronyms, but that last one has me feeling like Miss Sophia in The Color Purple. . . con. . . . .. . .. fused.:(


oops never mind I got it. :) :D

Well I'm still trying to figure it out.:confused:


Edit: Thanks CT4 :D

AKA2D '91 02-06-2004 10:13 AM

Why are everyday Joes and Janes suing over this fiasco? :eek:

A 10-A-C woman is suing Janet, Justin, CBS, MTV b/c viewing the show "outraged" her!

A Cali man is also suing. :eek:

CrimsonTide4 02-06-2004 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
Why are everyday Joes and Janes suing over this fiasco? :eek:

A 10-A-C woman is suing Janet, Justin, CBS, MTV b/c viewing the show "outraged" her!

A Cali man is also suing. :eek:

I posted about the Cali man in the CTFU thread.
Of course, folks are suing!! LOL.

Virtual Violet 02-06-2004 10:32 AM

NFL = Censorship
 
Chasez Out of Pro Bowl, Rips NFL
Thu Feb 5, 6:35 PM ET Add Entertainment - E! Online to My Yahoo!


By Sarah Hall

Hey, Justin, why you gonna do JC like that?


Thanks to the controversy caused by the Justin Timberlake-Janet Jackson Boobgate scandal, the NFL has decided to cancel a halftime performance by Timberlake's fellow 'N Syncer, JC Chasez (news), NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy confirmed to E!


Chasez had initially planned to perform "Some Girls (Dance with Women)," a song from his upcoming solo album, during halftime of the NFL Pro Bowl this weekend.


The singer said in a statement that the NFL expressed concern over some of his lyrics, and asked him to perform "Blowin' Me Up (With Her Love)" instead.


The song was featured on the soundtrack for 2002's Drumline--a film that was rated a staid PG-13.


But those lyrics, too, caused NFL hackles to rise, as they included the words "horny" and "naughty"--words that Chasez said he reluctantly agreed to change.


However, still smarting from the R-rated Super Bowl festivities, the NFL decided to steer clear of any potential for further embarrassment.


"We thought it was over the top," McCarthy told TelevisionWeek.com. "It was because of the song, and how we believed it was going to be choreographed. We wanted to go in a different direction."


McCarthy said that Chasez had not been holding rehearsals at the Pro Bowl. As a result, the NFL made a preemptive strike, barring any possible wardrobe malfunctions from the halftime show.


Instead, spectators have the opportunity to get lei'd, in a Hawaii-themed celebration of the Pro Bowl's 25th year in the Aloha State. Entertainment will feature hula dancers, drummers, conch shell blowers and local singers.


The NFL offered Chasez the consolation prize of performing the national anthem before the game, which he initially agreed to do. But on Thursday he changed his mind.


He released a statement attacking the league's leadership, saying it has "clearly become so disoriented it has reduced itself to bashing me and my music to divert attention from the fact that the NFL screwed up at the Super Bowl."


Chasez said he had enjoyed a positive relationship with the league in the past, but felt "mistreated" after being dropped.


"While I agree the mishap at the Super Bowl was a huge mistake, the NFL's shallow effort to portray my music as sexually indecent brings to mind another era when innocent artists were smeared with a broad brush by insecure but powerful people," Chasez stated. "That's not the America I love. Nor is this the NFL I love. I'll sing the national anthem anytime, anywhere, but not for this NFL."


It's not like the lost gig is leaving Chasez with a lot of free time on his hands--the singer has a slew of upcoming television performances scheduled to promote his debut solo album, Schizophrenic, due out Feb. 24.


***Anyone get the feeling the NFL is being run my hyper-sensitive arch-conservatives?!!*** (See the Playmakers Thread)

I know Janet made a bad and inappropriate choice, but PULEEZE!! JC CHASEZ?!!



:mad: :mad: :mad:

CrimsonTide4 02-06-2004 01:07 PM

LAWSUIT
 
Janet, Justin Sued over Boobgate
Fri Feb 6, 2:00 AM ET

By Sarah Hall

Who knew that a slip of the nipple could cause serious injury to millions?

After catching a glimpse of Janet Jackson's mammary during the Super Bowl halftime show, a Tennessee woman filed a proposed class action lawsuit Wednesday, naming Jackson, Justin Timberlake, MTV, CBS and Viacom as defendants.


Terri Carlin filed her suit "on behalf of all Americans who watched the Super Bowl," blaming Jackson and Timberlake for causing her and millions of other unsuspecting viewers "to suffer outrage, anger, embarrassment and serious injury."


(The full legal documents can be found online at The Smoking Gun.)


The suit does not specify exactly what kind of injury was incurred; however damages sought could add up to billions. Though no figure is given in the suit, Carlin indicates that punitive damages should not exceed the combined gross revenues of all defendants over the last three years.


Apologies from Jackson apparently did nothing to soothe Carlin's wounded morality, nor did denials from the networks and Timberlake of any prior knowledge of the stunt that resulted in the infamous wardrobe malfunction.


"Families have an expectation that they can trust companies and individuals such as the defendants not to expose families to sexually explicit conduct during broadcasts of prime time events such as the Super Bowl," Carlin's suit snipes.


Carlin further accuses the networks of not having a "sufficient broadcast delay" in place to prevent unexpected mishaps like Boobgate 2004.


It seems the networks agree with her to some extent--a gun shy CBS has announced plans to air the Grammys (news - web sites) on an unprecedented five-minute delay Sunday, presumably to protect viewers from the hijinks of wacky entertainers.


ABC may follow suit by running the Feb. 29 broadcast of the Academy Awards (news - web sites) on its first-ever delay, albeit a mere five seconds. And NBC decided to edit out a glimpse of an elderly woman's breast from Thursday's episode of ER.


In other Jackson-flash fallout, Michael's sis will no longer be attending the 2004 Grammys, her rep Stephen Huvane confirmed to E!


Jackson was originally scheduled to present an award to Luther Vandross (news), but after the ailing crooner confirmed his no-show status, she was told her services were no longer needed, according to Grammy production sources.


Timberlake, who claimed to be "shocked and appalled" by the breast-baring bodice rip, is still slated to perform at the Grammys.


Meanwhile, Timberlake's bandmate, JC Chasez (news) found himself at the receiving end of nipplevision backlash--the NFL nixed him as halftime entertainment for the Pro Bowl, fearing that his act was too racy.


Furious at being replaced by a Hawaiian-themed extravaganza, the 'N Syncer fumed that league leadership has "clearly become so disoriented it has reduced itself to bashing me and my music to divert attention from the fact that the NFL screwed up at the Super Bowl."


Memo to Miss Jackson's costumer: Next time, use duct tape--these "malfunctions" can be costly.

stardusttwin 02-06-2004 01:38 PM

Quote:

Families have an expectation that they can trust companies and individuals such as the defendants not to expose families to sexually explicit conduct during broadcasts of prime time events such as the Super Bowl," Carlin's suit snipes.
If she is so worried about sexual content why isn't she suing the makers of those erctile dysfunction pharmaceutical who ran commercials throughout the telecast? I don't know what kind of tv's people have - on my 25" tv we didn't see anything - the camera was not that close. More details were shown afterwards from pictures floating on the internet.

I hope Janet's lawyers not only ram her behind in court but make her pay all her fees and punitive damages for filing a frivolous lawsuit.

I was flipping channels this morning and Wayne Brady of all people said he would not be watching the Grammy's this weekend-if Janet is so bad to be banned then Justin, the aggresor should be held equally accountable. I've already vowed not to support his punk behind eva again...but I think I will be skipping the Grammy's also.

CrimsonTide4 02-06-2004 02:28 PM

Forgot to link this:

Smoking Gun has the lawsuit papers here

Strive 02-06-2004 02:55 PM

Out of proportion
 
Justin was the one who pulled the bra. But Grammy's punished Janet for her nipple. Now, JC is being punished for waht Justin did. This is full of BS

If Justin cares about Janet and JC, I hope that he does not show up at the Grammy's either.

NinjaPoodle 02-06-2004 11:35 PM

The winner: hypocrisy
 
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...ner_hypocrisy/

The winner: hypocrisy
By Derrick Z. Jackson, 2/6/2004


SOMEONE AT VIACOM and CBS must be whispering that the MoveOn.org ad was not so bad after all. The media giant said it was wrong to show an ad criticizing President Bush during the Super Bowl. The ad showed sad-faced children as assembly-line workers, dishwashers, and trash collectors. The ad asked, "Guess who's going to pay off President Bush's $1 trillion deficit?"

CBS Executive Vice President Martin Franks declared, "We do not accept advertising on one side or the other of controversial public issues, partly because we don't think the debate ought to be controlled by people with deep pockets."

With such pomposity about controlling controversy, it was fitting that the Super Bowl halftime show erectiled out of control. The same network that decided that we could not have our mood ruined by thoughts of mortgaging our children's future gave us instead a crotch-grabbing, butt-humping, breast-baring extravaganza that perfectly fixed the nation in a cultural moment. Questioning the president is taboo. Near porn is not.

The Janet Jackson-Justin Timberlake breast baring was merely the exclamation point. On Super Bowl Sunday, an 11-year-old girl was abducted off the streets of Sarasota, Fla., an abduction that horrified Americans with a videotape of the crime. Yet, the halftime show featured Timberlake stalking Jackson around the stage, feeling her up from behind, and singing, "I'm gonna have you naked by the end of this song."

Maybe CBS does not qualify that as politics. But context is everything. Networks and cable stations have for years now pumped out sitcoms and music videos with the same messages of aggression (not to mention racial, ethnic, and gender stereotypes). Meanwhile, budget cuts have forced states and municipalities to slash staff for rape crisis centers and domestic violence services. Massachusetts is one such state. Last year the Legislature cut rape crisis centers from $2.5 million a year to $800,000. According to Jane Doe Inc., the state's umbrella organization for domestic abuse services, the cuts resulted in pink slips for a quarter of its approximately 120 counselors.

A supplemental budget late last year brought the funding back to $1.9 million, but some services still remain curtailed, such as immediate medical counseling for rape victims in hospitals or immediate emotional counseling for women who waited months or years to report or discuss a rape. Jane Doe spokeswoman Toni Troop said, "Can you imagine a woman who held inside of her this terrible thing for years and then tell her, `Can you wait another couple of months?' "

Education and enforcement has helped reduce violence against women over the last 20 years, but the violence remains a fact of life. According to federal statistics, one in 12 women say they have been stalked during their lives and one in six American women has experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime. Within relationships, one in four women were raped or physically assaulted in their lifetime by a current or former spouse, partner, or date.

Janet Jackson merely lost her bustier and her dignity during the performance. In real rapes, one out of every three women is injured during the act.

One particular statistic should make clear Viacom's and CBS's hypocrisy. Of women who said they had been raped in their lifetime, 22 percent were under 12 at the time of their first rape and 32 percent were 12 to 17 years old. Thus, a solid third of first rapes occur to precisely the target audience of Viacom's oversexed programming.

To add insult to insanity, the halftime show came between four quarters of dumb and degrading commercials. Never were men so preoccupied with their penises, from erectile dysfunction medicines to a dog that bit a certain area of a man's anatomy to get him to surrender a bottle of beer. In two ads, women were mere objects involving a flatulent horse and an excited monkey.

Even without Janet Jackson's breast, there were plenty of personal fouls that should have resulted in yellow flags from Viacom, CBS, or the National Football League. The bump and grind in between the bumping and running between the Patriots and Panthers was so ridiculous that you almost forgot the usual violence on ads for movies and Philip Morris claiming to want children not to smoke when, if it really meant it, the company would just stop selling cigarettes. (Those deep pockets don't matter. Philip Morris spent $3.9 million on the 2000 elections, giving 81 percent of its money to the Republican Party).

CBS and Viacom said an ad featuring children to make a political statement was over the top. Yet a male entertainer stalking his female prey was not. The president was spared by the media moguls. Not so lucky were America's girls as CBS and Viacom told them it was just fine for boys to sing, "I'm gonna have you naked at the end of this song."

Derrick Z. Jackson's e-mail address is jackson@globe.com.

© Copyright 2004 Globe Newspaper Company.

RedefinedDiva 02-07-2004 01:28 AM

She needs to go and jump in the lake with that lawsuit!! I was not appalled and I was not offended. I was actually entertained. I love Janet Jackson and I didn't find her "display" to be all that bad. I thought it was funny. I may be out on a limb by myself here, but I don't see the big deal. Like stardusttwin said, it happened so fast, if you would have blinked, you would have missed it. If you really weren't paying close attention, you still would have missed it. The cameras cut away very quickly. In a society where there is always such outrage over gays and lesbians getting married, having civil unions, etc., there was no outrage over Britney, Madonna, and Christina tongue kissing on TV.

People can say what they want. I would much rather my kids catch a glimpse of a boob than some girls kissing. Some/most kids have seen their mom's boobs before (depending on the comfort level in the home). Some/most of the people watching the show have their own boobs. Why would I be worried about Janet's? She had the guts to show hers on national TV. She has apologized repeatedly, yet the media and everyone else is still harping on it.

However, Britney, Madonna, and Christina can tongue kiss and it gets played repeatedly on every station on television. The pictures were displayed on the covers and pages of nearly every nationally published magazine. The pictures were blown up, zoomed in on, and highlighted so we can see the tongue exchange. Did they have to apologize? NO. Did anyone sue them for exposing their kids to "lesbian activity?" NO. Did ritney or Madonna lose any public appearances? NO. So why the big deal over Janet?

People need to write it off as a mistake that was made and keep on moving. It would be easier for me to explain to my kids about a boob that was shown and gone in a flash than explaining why two girls are kissing. Some things you take with a grain of salt. I was more appalled by a horse farting in someone's face than seeing Janet's boob pop out. :rolleyes:

midwesterngirl 02-07-2004 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Exclusive: Timberlake Says He's Appalled


LOS ANGELES (KCBS) In an exclusive interview Wednesday, Justin Timberlake told CBS 2 News that he was appalled by what happened, and that his own family was offended by his racy Super Bowl halftime duet with Janet Jackson. The singer insisted he thought only Jackson's bustier, not her breast, would be revealed when he pulled on her costume.

CBS 2' s Mark Coogan caught up with Timberlake at the Staples Center, where he was rehearsing for this weekend's Grammy Awards.

A frustrated Timberlake told Coogan he wanted to get something off his chest, then launched into his side of the story surrounding the now infamous Super Bowl halftime stunt.

He said he is excited to be in town for the upcoming Grammy Awards show, but is frustrated by what has grown into an international incident since last Sunday, and by the fact that his character was being questioned.

"I do understand that there were a lot of people that were completely offended by what happened, including my own family. And I think that's probably the part that's frustrating the most for me and it's completely, completely, completely, regrettable," he told KCBS.

Timberlake said that he's had a really good year, especially with his music, and doesn't need such publicity.

He's been on tour for months, he said, and had been asked by his manager to do something at the Super Bowl. He said he turned it down at first, but then agreed when Jackson called him. He said they found a way to work his song and hers into the same performance, so he decided to do the show.

"I don't feel like I need publicity like this. And I wouldn't want to be involved with this stunt, especially something of this magnitude."

Timberlake said that prior to the show he got a call from Jackson and her choreographer saying they wanted to do a "costume reveal."

"Now I was under the impression that what was going to be revealed in the costume reveal was a red bustier," he said.

He said he did not have time to rehearse it before taking the stage, and was then shocked at the outcome.

"When what happened, happened, all I could say was 'Oh my God, oh my God.'"

He said they brought a towel up on stage, and he covered her up as they walked off. "I was completely embarrassed and just walked off the stage as quickly as I could."

He said later that night he was asked to explain what happened, so he did.

"And now it's turned into an unfortunate, incredibly huge situation," he added.

"The only other thing that I could say is that I do understand, I do understand, how unfortunate this is."

He said having a delay during this Sunday's Grammy Awards show, to give producers a chance to electronically block any offensive material, is a good idea as far as he is concerned. But he said the producers won't need their thumbs on any button when he performs.

Actual site with story and pic


I can't believe that he,along with everyone else it seems,is throwing Janet under the bus.This little weasel needs to grow a pair and take some responsibility for his own actions.What a gentleman.:mad:

ladygreek 02-07-2004 12:44 PM

Justin Timberlake is a punk!:mad:

CrimsonTide4 02-07-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Justin Timberlake is a punk!:mad:
Did you all really think he was going to throw his neck on the line with Janet? LOL. I know I didn't. He is the wrongfully done white boy.


Think about it if it had been Brittney's or Jessica's or Madonna's breast that we had seen on TV, it would have been :eek: but :cool: as well. But we saw a BLACK breast and that does not sit well with the watchguards. :rolleyes:

TonyB06 02-07-2004 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Did you all really think he was going to throw his neck on the line with Janet? LOL. I know I didn't. He is the wrongfully done white boy.


Think about it if it had been Brittney's or Jessica's or Madonna's breast that we had seen on TV, it would have been :eek: but :cool: as well. But we saw a BLACK breast and that does not sit well with the watchguards. :rolleyes:

...and given that it was Black History month, she coulda given Puffy or Nelly the honors.:rolleyes:

abaici 02-07-2004 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyB06
...and given that it was Black History month, she coulda given Puffy or Nelly the honors.:rolleyes:
I am soooooooooooo mad at you for that comment. Funny, though.

RBL 02-08-2004 08:03 PM

Ray Lewis
 
Slightly off subject but I could've sworn that I heard Ray Lewis comment on the Janet Jackson "scandal" and he said something to the effect of how embarrasing that was for the league.. I was left scratching my head.. :( Like he has been a wonderful role model..

06

TonyB06 02-08-2004 08:59 PM

Re: Ray Lewis
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RBL
Slightly off subject but I could've sworn that I heard Ray Lewis comment on the Janet Jackson "scandal" and he said something to the effect of how embarrasing that was for the league.. I was left scratching my head.. :( Like he has been a wonderful role model..

06

RBL, I hope you got your shoes on cause when 1SD hears about this post of yours you might have to do some runnin'.

UpPinkies 02-08-2004 10:25 PM

Re: Ray Lewis
 
Quote:

Originally posted by RBL
Slightly off subject but I could've sworn that I heard Ray Lewis comment on the Janet Jackson "scandal" and he said something to the effect of how embarrasing that was for the league.. I was left scratching my head.. :( Like he has been a wonderful role model..

06


I cracked up because of this comment.

Trust me, the NFL has been through more stuff then a tittie showing. How many NFL players have been in court for various charges and how many are in jail today?!!!

CrimsonTide4 02-08-2004 11:22 PM

Re: Re: Ray Lewis
 
Quote:

Originally posted by UpPinkies
I cracked up because of this comment.

Trust me, the NFL has been through more stuff then a tittie showing. How many NFL players have been in court for various charges and how many are in jail today?!!!

How many have gone to T____ bars!?!?! :eek:
How many got kids they don't claim or support!??! :o
How many of them have multiple baby mamas??!!? :eek: :o
Of all of those, they all need to STADSOGTPASADT!!!!!:p

IotaNet 02-10-2004 07:50 AM

Another perspective on Janet ...
 
Ladies -

I wanted to share a thought (a rant, actually) I had on this topic.

Dorothy Dandridge
Hattie McDaniel
Dianne Carroll
Lena Horne
Cicely Tyson

... keep adding names.

All these women caught hell -- took demeaning roles -- dealt with all kinds of Entertainment Industry B.S. -- paid all kinds of dues and suffered all kinds of indignities -- to pave the way for Janet Jackson to have the opportunity to perform on (what was arguably) the world's biggest stage.

And how does she honor that legacy?

By allowing herself to be groped and ultimately exposed onstage. (And make no mistake, nobody is going to expose Miss Jackson's breast unless she gives the go-ahead!)

And don't fool yourself -- a whole lot of folks are saying, "What's the big deal -- it's only a BREAST!" Consider what would have happened if Bobby Brown had exposed Britney Spears' breast? You know and I know that Bob would have been damn near arrested before the 3rd quarter started and they would STILL be trying to figure out something to charge him with.

I am less concerned about a bare breast on television than I am about the message the whole performace sent. Nearly every one of you ladies here has, at one time or another, been devalued by someone because you are a Black woman. And here is a Black woman who allowed herself to be devalued on international television. That's what my Grandmother used to call "common" behavior.

We have a hard enough time fighting negative stereotypes in the media as it is -- and Janet couldn't find any other way to entertain but to act like a stereotypical "Black Hot-Momma?"

Don't get me wrong - I love sex, sexy women, and breassesses - but I also belive that we need to respect ourselves if we expect to get respect from others. There's a way to do everything and some things are simply not done. Like selling your self-respect.

Like Chris Rock said ...

"You want me to stop calling you bit*h and h*? Then stop dressing like one."

end of rant

Love_Spell_6 02-10-2004 10:24 AM

Re: Another perspective on Janet ...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by IotaNet
Ladies -

I wanted to share a thought (a rant, actually) I had on this topic.

Dorothy Dandridge
Hattie McDaniel
Dianne Carroll
Lena Horne
Cicely Tyson

... keep adding names.

All these women caught hell -- took demeaning roles -- dealt with all kinds of Entertainment Industry B.S. -- paid all kinds of dues and suffered all kinds of indignities -- to pave the way for Janet Jackson to have the opportunity to perform on (what was arguably) the world's biggest stage.

And how does she honor that legacy?

By allowing herself to be groped and ultimately exposed onstage. (And make no mistake, nobody is going to expose Miss Jackson's breast unless she gives the go-ahead!)

And don't fool yourself -- a whole lot of folks are saying, "What's the big deal -- it's only a BREAST!" Consider what would have happened if Bobby Brown had exposed Britney Spears' breast? You know and I know that Bob would have been damn near arrested before the 3rd quarter started and they would STILL be trying to figure out something to charge him with.

I am less concerned about a bare breast on television than I am about the message the whole performace sent. Nearly every one of you ladies here has, at one time or another, been devalued by someone because you are a Black woman. And here is a Black woman who allowed herself to be devalued on international television. That's what my Grandmother used to call "common" behavior.

We have a hard enough time fighting negative stereotypes in the media as it is -- and Janet couldn't find any other way to entertain but to act like a stereotypical "Black Hot-Momma?"

Don't get me wrong - I love sex, sexy women, and breassesses - but I also belive that we need to respect ourselves if we expect to get respect from others. There's a way to do everything and some things are simply not done. Like selling your self-respect.

Like Chris Rock said ...

"You want me to stop calling you bit*h and h*? Then stop dressing like one."

end of rant

I agree with much of what you say IotaNet, but I think people's reaction to this is just a sympton of our lack of moral conscience these days. The things that SHOULD outrage us, don't. The things that should NOT outrage us do. For example people were ready to march in the streets because Ludacris gets pulled from Pepsi (i agree with that by the way) or something along those lines. We're so easy to get riled up by superficial issues. WE AS A COMMUNITY DO NOT SEE the constant chipping away at family values and the issues that are really causing the demise of our community. We see things like baring a breast on TV, or two women kissing, or saying more and more curse words as pushing the envelope or Not a big deal....Some people may not consciously say that..but that's what our actions show.. Don't we see that OUR children are CONSTANTLY emulating what they hear in songs and what they see on TV?? Everything from the dress, to the speech, to the disrespect for authority..

I just hope we don't wake up to late when are kids are too far gone..

AKA2D '91 02-11-2004 11:07 AM

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...ll_nyet102.jpg

The chairman of the Federal Communications Commission told lawmakers Wednesday that the Super Bowl halftime show was "a new low for prime-time television."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...nt_programming

Love_Spell_6 03-04-2004 10:58 AM

Disney replace Janet Jackson-inspired statue
 
I guess entertainers will think twice now before trying to shock the world on primetime TV
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http://www.ananova.com/entertainment...sm_880395.html

Disney has removed a statue of Mickey Mouse inspired by Janet Jackson, following her Super Bowl gaffe.

The singer was one of a host of celebrities asked to help design and personalise a 6ft statue to mark the cartoon character's 75th birthday last year.

Disney spokesman, Gary Foster, told the Orlando Sentinel the Jackson version saw Mickey wearing a tight black outfit similar to the one the singer wore on tour in 1990 after the release of her Rhythm Nation album.

The statues were erected in front of the Florida Magic Kingdom and are now being moved to Philadelphia to greet shareholders at Disney's annual meeting, before going on a nationwide tour.

But the Jackson version will not be tagging along and has now been replaced by a spare statue created by an in-house designer at Disney.

Foster said: "Considering all the controversy it [the Super Bowl performance] drew, we talked it over for a couple of days and decided it would be best to replace hers with a new one."

Honeykiss1974 03-04-2004 11:08 AM

Re: Disney replace Janet Jackson-inspired statue
 
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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I guess entertainers will think twice now before trying to shock the world on primetime TV
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http://www.ananova.com/entertainment...sm_880395.html

Disney has removed a statue of Mickey Mouse inspired by Janet Jackson, following her Super Bowl gaffe.

The singer was one of a host of celebrities asked to help design and personalise a 6ft statue to mark the cartoon character's 75th birthday last year.

Disney spokesman, Gary Foster, told the Orlando Sentinel the Jackson version saw Mickey wearing a tight black outfit similar to the one the singer wore on tour in 1990 after the release of her Rhythm Nation album.

The statues were erected in front of the Florida Magic Kingdom and are now being moved to Philadelphia to greet shareholders at Disney's annual meeting, before going on a nationwide tour.

But the Jackson version will not be tagging along and has now been replaced by a spare statue created by an in-house designer at Disney.

Foster said: "Considering all the controversy it [the Super Bowl performance] drew, we talked it over for a couple of days and decided it would be best to replace hers with a new one."

I fully agree that what Janet did was in very bad taste and hopefully it will spark a movement to clean up television (btw - if you want to help with the movement, please go to afa.net ).

However, I find it HIGHLY suspicious that Disney would pull this statue out of concern for the controversy surrounding the Super Bowl, especially considering that every year, Walt Disney World sponsors "Gay Day" (www.gayday.com) at their Orlando theme park :eek: (yep, that sounds like a company that cares about the moral fiber of our society to me :o ). So if anyone plans on going to Walt Disney World Resort please check the park's calendar. You and your family may get more than you bargained for! :eek:

Love_Spell_6 03-04-2004 04:00 PM

Re: Re: Disney replace Janet Jackson-inspired statue
 
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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
I fully agree that what Janet did was in very bad taste and hopefully it will spark a movement to clean up television (btw - if you want to help with the movement, please go to afa.net ).

However, I find it HIGHLY suspicious that Disney would pull this statue out of concern for the controversy surrounding the Super Bowl, especially considering that every year, Walt Disney World sponsors "Gay Day" (www.gayday.com) at their Orlando theme park :eek: (yep, that sounds like a company that cares about the moral fiber of our society to me :o ). So if anyone plans on going to Walt Disney World Resort please check the park's calendar. You and your family may get more than you bargained for! :eek:

That is soo true...I think its all political now...now no one wants to be apart of Janet...her little boobie has its own personality now...

IotaNet 03-04-2004 04:19 PM

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Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
now no one wants to be apart of Janet ...
Ladies -

In my earlier rant, I invoked the name of Lena Horne. That makes the following news story (from CNN.COM on February 24, 2004) so much more ironic and satisfying to me:
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LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Janet Jackson has been left out in the rain after "Stormy Weather" singer Lena Horne balked at having the younger star play her in a planned television movie.

The 86-year-old Horne reportedly is angry about Jackson's breast-baring stunt at Super Bowl and pressured ABC to drop Jackson from the project, the trade newspaper Variety reported Tuesday.

ABC executives resisted Horne's demand, but Jackson representatives told the trade newspaper that she left willingly after Horne and her daughter, Gail Lumet Buckley, asked that she not take part.

Good for Ms. Horne! Being a Lady and having Class never goes out of style!

CrimsonTide4 03-05-2004 05:38 PM

Jackson Says Halftime Show Was Accident
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NEW YORK - Echoing her on-stage partner, Janet Jackson (news) says her breast exposure during the Super Bowl halftime show was a "costume accident."


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"It was not intentional. It was a costume accident," Jackson tells Ebony magazine for its April issue in her first interview since the now-infamous Feb. 1 performance.


"It was an accident," she says. "That was basically it."


Timberlake has said that when he reached for Jackson's top, exposing her right breast covered only in a sun-shaped nipple shield, it was a "wardrobe malfunction."


In the article, Jackson also discusses her boyfriend of the past year and a half, record producer Jermaine Dupri, about whom she's been reticent in the past.


"Things are great with us," the 37-year-old singer says. "I'm sorry, but I get so tickled when you say his name. It's so funny because I've never been in a relationship when my friends adore him and my family just loves him. It's a first me for me.


"But more importantly," she added, "I love him. Everything is great."


Jackson is headed back to network television on April 10 as the host and musical guest of "Saturday Night Live," NBC announced.

AKA2D '91 03-10-2004 09:49 AM

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and Justin Do EBay
Wed Mar 10, 2:40 AM ET

By Sarah Hall

Forget surfing the Web for screen shots of Janet Jackson's infamous nipple slip--now you can own a piece of Boobgate history.


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Currently up for sale on eBay--plastic replicas of Jackson and Justin Timberlake in all their Super Bowl finery.


In an effort to capitalize on the controversy surrounding the wardrobe malfunction that rocked the nation, Canadian artist Siobhan Sawatsky, 24, created the Barbie and Ken-proportioned pair and put them up for online auction.


Though Sawatsky admits she did not actually watch the Super Bowl, she was meticulous with her creations, down to Jackson's sun-shaped nipple shield and Timberlake's beard stubble.


"The dolls actually took only a couple of evenings to create," Sawatsky told E! Online via email. "However, if I had known they were going to create such a hype, I would have spent more time on them and paid more attention to detail."


Sawatsky has created other leather-clad dolls in the past and sold them on eBay for between $30 and $80. One of her earlier creations is a Playboy Bunny doll, complete with bunny tattoo on its shoulder blade; another doll wears bondage attire, complete with a cone-shaped bra reminiscent of '80s era Madonna (news - web sites).


"I really only began making the dolls because they were fun to create and sold for relatively good money," she explained.


As for her take on the fallout from Jackson's slip of the boob, Sawatsky says she found the frenzied reaction amusing.


"I have to admit that the whole incident was quite humorous," she said. "It is amazing how something so minor can be blown completely out of proportion and become such a national event."


Bidding on Sawatsky's shapely synthetic duo starts at $49.99. So far, there are no bids on the dolls, but the end of the auction is still several days away.


Other Janet and Justin-themed merchandise available for purchase on eBay includes photos of the nipple-baring moment of truth and newspapers and magazines reporting the event.


None of it appears to be selling well, perhaps because photos and footage of the event are still so widely available for free on the Internet.


Meanwhile, Jackson is returning to television April 12 as the host and musical guest for Saturday Night Live. It will be her first live gig since the Super Bowl.


We wonder what the theme of her opening monologue will be.

CrimsonTide4 03-10-2004 10:56 AM

NFL Cancels Opening-Game Kickoff Concert
 
NFL Cancels Opening-Game Kickoff Concert
(AP, 03/09/2004 3:28 PM)

The NFL canceled plans for a third opening-game kickoff concert following Janet Jackson 's risque halftime show at the Super Bowl.

The league held free downtown concerts before its season-opening Thursday night games the last two seasons, but NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Tuesday that commissioner Paul Tagliabue put an end to the concerts.

Tagliabue informed the owners of the decision on Feb. 12, less than two weeks after Justin Timberlake tore off part of Jackson's costume, exposing her right breast.

Tagliabue was incensed at the action, which generated outrage throughout the country and from Congress.

Two years ago, the NFL had its first Thursday night opening game in New York, and Jon Bon Jovi headlined a concert in Times Square that afternoon. Last year, the opener was in Washington, and more than 100,000 people came out in the rain for a concert featuring Britney Spears , Aerosmith and Aretha Franklin .

Aiello said there might be a different sort of event to coincide with the game, including musical entertainment. Neither the site of the game nor the participants have been determined.

"No decisions have been made on any events other than the commissioner telling the ownership on Feb. 12 we will not have a concert," he said.

DigitalAngel126 03-10-2004 12:32 PM

So the whole industry is being punished, still, for the idiocy of 2 people. That's cool. :rolleyes:

CrimsonTide4 03-24-2004 09:30 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&category=618


Janet Jackson "breast bag" on ebay for $150


:o :eek: :o :eek:

Steeltrap 03-24-2004 09:51 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&category=618


Janet Jackson "breast bag" on ebay for $150


:o :eek: :o :eek:

Umm, naaah, playa. I'm not buying that. :eek: :rolleyes:

msn4med1975 03-24-2004 11:35 PM

Even if someone WANTED to buy it, WHERE THE HELL would you wear it?


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