Actually no, I think both are disgusting.
Don't judge other people when you don't know their situation, and mind your own business. If you can't afford anything, go get a job. If you're working, super. If you don't have to, lucky you. If people would keep their ghey comments to themselves, we'd all get along so much easier. Really though.

(Not directed at you madmax!!! just the 'people' we were talking about that do this IRL)

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It's primarily assumption. I never told any of my friends where the tuition/room and board, books, and plane fare was coming from, but after a few years of being my friend/roommate/sorority sister, it began to become obvious. I didn't get the "holier than thou" lines from my classmates and friends, it was people outside of my social circle (co-workers, peripheral relatives, and roommates' friends) who gave it to me.

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On the other hand, online, you seem to have brought up how your parents paid for so much so maybe in real life things were different...or not?

-Rudey

It's jealousy. Who wouldn't want to have parents that pay for tuition, books, housing, etc? Nobody wants to be working in the GAP every day and flipping burgers at night just to get by.

I beg to differ. I would rather WORK that have mommy and daddy pamper my a$$ when I'm old enough to take care of myself. Just curious, but do the people whose parents pay for everything also follow their parents rules? Prolly not cause you've used the phrase "I'm old enough to make my own decisions!" or something similar. Which is exactly why you shouldn't be living off your parent's money after a certain age. I'm not sure what that age is, but there's a point in one's life where you have to step out on your own and do things for yourself. It's just like learning to ride a bike....the training wheels one day come off, you fall, hurt yourself, and get back on that bike and learn. You're a big kid now...now act like it!

My parents being educators themselves wanted to make sure that my brother and I had our schooling paid for. That was something that was very important to them. My parents paid for everything in college except for fun stuff (yes that includes sorority). I know that when my parents get older they will be relying on me and my husband some and I will have absolutely no problem helping them out.

well what's wrong with your parents putting you through school and then going out on your own when you graduate??

Yeah, I do follow their rules, which are basically don't get arrested or kicked out of school.

Not too tough.

I think this is a classic example of the bitter type of post.

I'm 20 years old, I've had a job since I was 14 excepting my freshman year, and I AM NOT ASHAMED MY PARENTS PAY FOR SHIT.

I go to school year-round, I work part time, and my parents respect that and trust me enough to support me. There's nothing wrong with that.

I agree 100% with what you are saying!!!

Oddly enough, it was hardest to get chapter dues out of the kids that were being supported by their parents.

But they always had money for other stuff lol.

No idea why.

Full Time Equivalents... or FTE's
 

Let me put it to you all like this:

YOUR TUITION DOES NOT PAY MY FACULTY SALARY!!!

Your tuition cannot pay for ONE LIGHT BULB in ONE CLASSROOM in any building on your campus!!!

NONE OF YOUR TUITION PAY ANY FACULTY SALARY!!!

Faculty is paid by "Full Time Equivalents" or FTE units AND by GRANTS from the FEDS...

That is why Universities are NOT hiring TENURED professorships... TOO COSTLY!!! It is easier squeezing blood out of a turnip by enslaving an "instructor" class of professionals, graduate TA's and post doctorates than to give tenure track faculty positions...

And if you are not doing active research in relevant journals, you can forget it...

It is liken to "Back To School" with Rodney Dangerfield, when his character donated money for the business school...

What your tuition pays for is the student government "lecture notes" on the classes you take... The university president's salary... If that... And the tax liens, permits and barely the liability insurance the local, state and federal governments assess universities...

The fact is the charge school's give folks is FUGGGED UP BIG TIME--LIKE "ENRONIZED"!!! And I am not even close to joking...

Just for kicks, you business majors ought to find the last fiscal budgets of your respective university and see where this money is going... 'Cuz I can guarentee you, there are some best selling cooked books out there...

My faculty university has problems with directing purchasing... It is a bizarre maze to begin how these folks came up with this bureaucracy...

I bet any of you kids could figure out how these should would better than some of these so called administrators are working it...

WE NEED EFFICIENCY EXPERTS!!!

mu_agd: there's nothing wrong with your parent's putting you through school...but majority of the people posting state that their parent's pay for more than tuition.


GeekyPenguin: Call me what you want, a "classic example of a bitter type of post." You said so yourself earlier that you are spoiled. So why should my post fire you up so much? I'm glad you work and go to school. No one singled you out personally. If you read my post earlier, you will see that my parent's paid for my tuition as well. But that's where it ended. They didn't pay for me to party in college and for me to dress nicely. If I wanted those things, I had to pay for them myself. Which was what I was addressing in the post you quoted me on. Not saying your parent's pay for any of the above mentioned stuff, I'm just saying in GENERAL terms. Chill out!

I'm all about parents who give their kids an allowance of some sort. My tuition was covered so I used my scholarship money for rent, food, sorority, etc. My parents also gave me a little bit of money each month to cover my expenses.

What I didn't like is the parents who basically gave their kids hundreds of dollars every month. I had my dad's credit card but it was for EMERGENCY use only. Emergencies were: huge car repairs that my checking account would not cover, being stranded somewhere, or some other kind of emergency. I always had to call my parents before using their card to just double check with them that it was ok. I had friends who used their parents credit card for everything. Their parents would just pay the bill without even second guessing it. One of my sorority sisters had her parents' debit card. :eek: Every night before we went out, she'd withdrawal $200 in cash from her parents' account.

I think there's a HUGE difference between those of us who got a set amount from our parents and nothing more and those people who are really, truly spoiled. It's those people who have complete access to their parents' credit card or debit accounts and do not understand the true value of money that give everyone a bad name.

Ohhhh, yes. The girls who would just go to the mall every weekend with their parents' credit card used to blow my mind...I am all for parents paying tuition, books, major expenses; my parents did that, and I'm very grateful. However, they didn't give me carte blanche with the credit card--I had one, but like in ZTAngel's case, it was for emergency use ONLY. I never used it once. I understood that if I used it to go buy clothes or beer, my butt would be toast. I had one day off a week during which I would substitute teach and earn my spending money for the week, and if I spent it all, well, then that was too bad (unless there was some emergency, as stated above). If parents want to really spoil their kids, that's their business, but I think it ends up being detrimental to the kids because they don't learn how to manage their money.

ZTAngel and AchtungBaby80, that's what I was trying to say. I just couldn't word it correctly.

I'm sure most parents don't realize it's not a good idea to spoil your child to no end. Most parents would give their children the stars if they could.

I agree!

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I guess that is why there is so many lousy professors. I think most high school teachers are better educators than college professors. Professors are more concerned with research grants or getting some crappy book published. The University of Pennsylvania collects over 600 million a year in tuition. I am pretty sure that money pays for more than just lightbulbs. Most professors are too stupid to figure it out, but without the students and their tuition, the professors wouldn't have jobs.

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Professors do not care if a student understands the material or not at a large university. That is what liberal arts colleges and teaching colleges are for... Better yet, vo-techs are for that purpose...

A newly appointed assistant professor (the title differs for each school) who is on a tenure track (usually 6 years) can only advance if they bring in a certain dollar amount in grants. This grant money is based on what these professors publish. So, if a professor does not get his or her grant, then he or she will be released from the university. That does not look good on a curriculum vitae.

As far as the tuition collected at your university, I can tell you, tuition pays for the worker's comp. that some of the janitorial staff collect... It pays for the huge retirements past living university presidents get and any university trustee or regent... Basically, money is being pocketed bigtime... And forget what the atheletics department does with its funds... You think scholarships... :rolleyes: Okay...

I guarentee you, if you look at your university's fiscal budget, it would make "Worldcom" look like a drop in the DOW...

I am serious!!! :eek:

There is heavy mismanagment of money going on at many US higher-education academic institutions--most of them might be premier universities...

Like my university seems to have too many administrative personnel that are doing duplicate jobs...

Efficiency Experts, I say...

I agree pretty much about the whole credit card thing...I definitely have their Credit Card (I've had it since I was 14 I believe), but the only things I put on it are any medicines/vitamins/supplements, doctor's visits, car repairs, stuff my parents want me to buy for them, and OCCASIONALLY, we're talking like maybe once a month, if I'm broke, I'll use it to put a tank of gas in my car. But that's it. I too have so many sorority sisters and just friends who have their parents credit card and use it for expensive handbags, clothes every weekend, lingerie, shoes, bar funds, alcohol, cigarettes, cabs, all of their multiple salon visits, tanning, massages.....the whole nine yards. But honestly, I do sometimes envy them...but I do realize that when Mommy and Daddy cut them off and they have to go back into the REAL WORLD, they're S-C-R-E-W-E-D!!! Like majorly screwed!!!

Just quick question when people say this do they mean that they have their parent's card with their parent's name and signature on it or that their parent's have got them an extra card on their credit account like a husband or wife does for their spouse so they can both use the account?

eta: I mean it can't be the first because it isn't as if they forge their parent's signature?

i have a card from their account with my name on it. i assume that's how the majority of people on here are, since it's quite easy to get extra cards.

Thanks I appreciate it. I think the laws here are different and might prevent it or something.

Ditto...my mom, my dad, and I all have cards with the same account number on them but different names!!!

I had my own credit card in my name which I had to pay. I had one shopping spree, received the bill, and never did that again. It was amazing how quickly I could spend money when I first got a credit card.

I got myself 2 credit cards. They are evil!

Anyway, they were in my name and they were really easy to get. They don't credit checks or employer checks.

Then they wonder why students have trouble paying them off.

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I find this thread very interesting, since I've been called spoiled more times than I can count. I don't think of myself as spoiled, just fortunate. When I was in college, my parents and I had a system wherein they covered the cost of all my necessities, like rent. They also paid a large chunk of my tuition. What they didn't pay was covered by scholarships, money from my grandmother and some student loans. My dad always said he didn't want me to be overwhelmed with paying back loans after I graduated so that's why he did everything he could.

Now, I am a shopaholic, and my parents know that--they've never once paid for any of my credit card bills and impulse purchases. Nor have they ever bankrolled my nights out with friends. That was always my responsibility, and I got "play money" from part-time jobs and internships I held through college.

I drove my dad's old car when I was in college that was already paid off. After graduating, my parents helped me buy my dream car (a 2003 New Beetle) by paying the down payment. But I make the car payments and the insurance payments.

I'm pretty much totally on my own now as far as rent and everything goes, though they do still pay for my groceries and cell phone--sometimes car maintenance appointments and recently, my eye appointment. I know it looks kind of bad since I'm almost 24 and have a full-time job, but I get paid very poorly. If people want to judge me for that they can kiss my "spoiled" ass.