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dakareng 01-12-2004 12:14 AM

Also left off the list of new colonizations are Pi Beta Phi's newest chapters
*CO Epsilon/ Univ of Colorado- Colorado Springs
*CA Nu/ Loyola-Marymount

lilkel244 01-12-2004 02:27 AM

Sometimes expansions at schools are needed even when the existing chapters are not at total. My chapter started off as an intrest group of 25 women who did not see any sororities existing on campis that they fit into. (existing ones were: SDT, DG, SK, AZD, AEPhi, and PM) Out of these six only one was at total and two were very low in numbers. Despite this many girls were also not being housed. Despite the fact we are a fairly small school two large sororities, DZ and KD made presentations. DZ was choosen and now a year later we are the largest chapter on campus despite the fact people said there was not a need to expand.

aopinthesky 01-12-2004 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by lilkel244
now a year later we are the largest chapter on campus despite the fact people said there was not a need to expand.
I congratulate your chapter. I would be interested to know how the other chapters at your campus are doing in the wake of your success. Did any of those chapters fold? Are any in trouble, or bigger trouble (membership-wise) than they were before DZ colonized? How many women went through recruitment the years before and the years after your chapter came to campus? The new kid on the block gets a lot of attention, generally. That doesn't always mean that interest is any greater. I disagree with a general perception that if 6 houses don't meet the needs of the PNM's that one more will. If recruitment is such that women are going unbidded it seems there are larger problems.

FAUNikki 01-12-2004 03:46 PM

I beleive that happened at my school, the year before I affiliated. There were 3 sororities on campus, all founded in 1991. They were doing OK with getting numbers, not wonderful, but alright. Somehow the local on campus was allowed to affiliate with a national and they seem to get alot of girls (but not necesarily keep them, which counts more to me...) and now my org is suffering :( We kinda struggle in formal recruitment and dont do very well. We are better at informal things. The girls we get, we keep, but we dont tend to get many. We are hoping to real quota with this spring's informal recruitment.

ZTAngel 01-12-2004 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by aopirose

ADII -
 Florida Gulf Coast

Zeta Tau Alpha
 University of South Florida

I hadn't heard about ADPi colonizing at FGCU but I know that ZTA will be colonizing there sometime this year.

Tom Earp 01-12-2004 06:05 PM

Oh, Mr. russelwashshinsky, or what ever,and what do you seem to be refering to?

I guess your mind seems to work in mysterious ways, if that is what you call it!:confused:

Since I do not know enough about your Fraternity and even if I did, I dont think I would demean it or the members of it like you so abably seem to do about others.:(

I hope this is not the true colors of all of your Brothers or Your National Fraternity.:(

But alas, there always those in one who seem to be ineptitudal asses!:(

PhiPsiRuss 01-12-2004 06:09 PM

Tom,

I was making a joke about how you posted your fraternity's extension efforts in a thread about sororities. If I slighted Lambda Chi in any way, I appologize.

Tom Earp 01-12-2004 06:29 PM

Why thank you Russel, apology accepted.

I forgot, what Fraternity are you a Member of?

Have to many things to remember.

Oh, and while it was posted on an NPC thread, I just feel that it is important to let everyone know wherre we are all going to try and re-colonize or place new Chapters, as I would to see as many NPC Groups Activate at many Schools, and If I can be of help so be it. We just do not have enough at some schools to show a strong Greek Front!:)

PhiPsiRuss 01-12-2004 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
I forgot, what Fraternity are you a Member of?

Phi Kappa Psi, and we are known as the Phi Psis.
Our greek letters appear as FKY

Tom Earp 01-12-2004 06:46 PM

Cool Russel, will check out your National Web site! Try to get a little more info as We do not have many in the Middle part of the Country! Or at least schools that I am familiar with!:)

polarpi 01-12-2004 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by aopirose
Here is a list that I have complied of NPC colonizations and charters from Dec 2002 through spring 2004. I know that I may have missed some.

ADII -
 Florida Gulf Coast

ADPi has not had a colony at FGCU....I did some checking with some fellow ADPis, and the only colony we've had in the recent years is one at Rockhurst University

Hope this helps! :)

Tom Earp 01-12-2004 07:10 PM

polarpie, is that Rockhurst in KC??

There is a LXA Chapter at UMKC but not at Rockhurst.

Hell, they are blocks apart! Never the twain shall meet!:(

If is or no matter what, Congratulations! Used to be one at Pitt. St. U in Ks!

Like to seem them back!:D

polarpi 01-12-2004 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
polarpie, is that Rockhurst in KC??

There is a LXA Chapter at UMKC but not at Rockhurst.

Hell, they are blocks apart! Never the twain shall meet!:(

If is or no matter what, Congratulations! Used to be one at Pitt. St. U in Ks!

Like to seem them back!:D

It is indeed....I haven't heard any recent reports on how the colony is faring, but I'm hoping for the best! :)

lilkel244 01-12-2004 09:32 PM

Greek Life as a whole seems to have perked up alot since my chapter was started. Greek Life at my school had a bad reputation because of some bad stuff that happened in the last few years. Alot of chapters were getting small and not alot of girls were going through recruitment. To alot of girls it didn't seem like there was alot of diversity in the chapters. (which is not true because I have alot of friends in other chapters and they are very diverse.) My chapter starting and being so large did not make a huge impact on most of the other chapters. It made recruitment more competitive (which was needed at my school) and seemed to get more girls aware and interested. So it all seems to be working out for the best.

aopinthesky 01-12-2004 11:10 PM

lilkel,
Are all of the chapters you mentioned still at your school? The school website did not list all of the ones you did. I was just curious.

33girl 01-12-2004 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by aopinthesky
lilkel,
Are all of the chapters you mentioned still at your school? The school website did not list all of the ones you did. I was just curious.

no offense to lilkel's school, but I think that area of the website looks pretty sucky, so I wouldn't take what it says as gospel. :)

lilkel244 01-13-2004 05:34 PM

No thats not all of the sororites. My school is really bad about updateing stuff like the website and keeping stuff up. There is supposed to me a Greek info page...they hired some guy to make one like a year ago......but as you can see there is nothing yet. All the sororities I listed are still there and the two smaller ones grew alot in fall recruitment so now everyone is doing much better.

Tom Earp 01-13-2004 07:38 PM

lil sorry if i did not go back and read all of the posts! What school?

PolarPie, I checked Rockhurst web page, still list ADP but no web site!:( Sorry!:(

lilkel244 01-13-2004 07:50 PM

I go to the University of Hartford in West Hartford, Connecticut....pretty small private college that is one school made of up 9 smaller colleges...and I am a ::gasp:: art major....so rare in the greek world, lol.

polarpi 01-13-2004 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
PolarPie, I checked Rockhurst web page, still list ADP but no web site!:( Sorry!:(
Tom, thanks for checking :).....I heard that the colony wasn't doing too well, so I don't know if the colony is still there or not :(

Hopefully someday we can recolonize at Pitt State U and get the ADPi's to hang out with the LXA's :D

tld221 01-14-2004 12:38 AM

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anyway I think sororities in the south must be so diffferent from the north
as a gdi (would that me my legitimate title?), i can definitely tell that. is that a good or bad thing? seems life greek life is more like the way of life on southern college campuses

also the difference between NPC and NPHC is mind-boggling. its like remembering a contract, word for word.

not knocking the greeks at all. just giving my opinion.

AlphaXi4983 01-15-2004 06:14 PM

this is kinda unrelated, and i appologize if this has been mentioned before, but i think one way for the "smaller" GLOs to be more well known is during the new member period. We all learn about our national org and the history of our chapter, but usually the only other glos that are known are the ones on our campus or ones our friends are in. i personally wanted to know as much as i could about all 25 other npc sororities when i pledged. i can name all 25 other sororities and some basic facts about them... i know more about some than others, but still. i think if more emphasis was placed on National Panhellenic (or whatever your governing body may be), that would bring about more knowledge and understanding for the smaller orgs (so you dont have people ask a DPhiE if they're a local sorority, etc) and a better understanding for what sororities as a whole stand for. just my $.02.

edited for spelling.

polarpi 01-15-2004 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaXi4983
this is kinda unrelated, and i appologize if this has been mentioned before, but i think one way for the "smaller" GLOs to be more well known is during the new member period. We all learn about our national org and the history of our chapter, but usually the only other glos that are known are the ones on our campus or ones our friends are in. i personally wanted to know as much as i could about all 25 other npc sororities when i pledged. i can name all 25 other sororities and some basic facts about them... i know more about some than others, but still. i think if more emphasis was placed on National Panhellenic (or whatever your governing body may be), that would bring about more knowledge and understanding for the smaller orgs (so you dont have people ask a DPhiE if they're a local sorority, etc) and a better understanding for what sororities as a whole stand for. just my $.02.

edited for spelling.

I think this is a *great* idea! I remember from my Alpha Education period, all we learned was that there were the 26 members of the NPC....and then we listed the members of the NPC that were on our campus....I didn't know the names of the other 19 organizations until I joined GC three years later!

tld221 01-16-2004 01:44 AM

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(so you dont have people ask a DPhiE if they're a local sorority, etc)
i agree. way back when, i was under the impression every college had their own sororities, and assuming they were all local. i assumed the first org i knew about, dphie, was just at nyu. wasnt i wrong!

AchtungBaby80 01-16-2004 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by tld221
i agree. way back when, i was under the impression every college had their own sororities, and assuming they were all local.
I was the exact opposite...I never even heard of a local sorority or fraternity until well after I became a member of my own GLO. I just assumed that every school had national groups. When my stepdad was telling me about the local fraternity he was in, it just didn't click...I kept asking, "But what fraternity were you in?" because it wasn't anything that I recognized as IFC. I figured it out once I came on here, but boy, I had a hard time coming to that realization. :p

sairose 01-16-2004 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
I was the exact opposite...I never even heard of a local sorority or fraternity until well after I became a member of my own GLO. I just assumed that every school had national groups. When my stepdad was telling me about the local fraternity he was in, it just didn't click...I kept asking, "But what fraternity were you in?" because it wasn't anything that I recognized as IFC. I figured it out once I came on here, but boy, I had a hard time coming to that realization. :p
Haha, I had never heard of locals either! Not until I joined GC, actually.

trisigmaAtl 01-16-2004 07:02 PM

learning all 26 NPC sororities is a part of the Tri Sigma new member period. Inside our NM book is four pages with the name, year and college of founding, colors, jewels, flowers and a picture of the badge of every NPC organization. It's really helpful and interesting, plus a good reference tool if you ever have a question.

My two cents on the original topic (forgive me if this has been said before it's a long thread): As a member of a "smaller" NPC, I understand why our national organization has to be so judicious in where they colonize. They have to choose locations which are going to be successful, and it is not always the campus panhellenic turning down smaller orgs, but the orgs themselves deciding that a new chapter wouldn't be competitive at that particular campus. Many times an org may choose to only colonize at smaller schools because they know that's where they'll do well. Does that make sense? I hope it doesn't come off like i know everything that goes on with the extension process or that other arguments aren't equally correct. This is just my input

AlphaXi4983 01-16-2004 09:06 PM

the basic info about all the sororities (letters, colors, founding school/date) were in our new member book as well, but we never really learned anything... they were just kinda like "yeah, there's other sororities..." and moved onto to the next topic.

Peaches-n-Cream 01-17-2004 12:24 AM

I don't expect all NPC sisters to know all of the information about all the other NPC sororities, just know the names of all the NPCs.

Tom Earp 01-17-2004 12:38 AM

tld, it is not a stupid questlon!!:)

It does seem at times to get WOW! But depending on what Your Campi is like, normally Greeks do so much more for Campi and The Alums of any Chapter will donate money to the school or work with The Local Chapter more so than an indipendent!:D

polarpi 01-17-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by AlphaXi4983
the basic info about all the sororities (letters, colors, founding school/date) were in our new member book as well, but we never really learned anything... they were just kinda like "yeah, there's other sororities..." and moved onto to the next topic.
Same here...I don't think I ever looked at it though until after I was initiated....but I wish we would've gone a little more into the different organizations and learned a little more about them to foster that Panhellenic Spirit that should be seen around the world....what one organization does for the world through philanthropy and other goodwill attempts is a positive step for Greek life as a whole

PKTKKG 01-17-2004 10:59 AM

All of the NPC information was in our pledge manual as well. We did not spend a lot of time on it as I recall, but I was one of the goofball nerds that read the thing from cover to cover and learned about NPC and at least learned about the different orgs. out there besides the ones on my campus.

I think it is fun to learn about the different GLOs and where they are located across the country. That's one of the things I love about GC - even though we're not face to face, I always learn something about other GLOs and HBGLO's as well that I didn't know before.

And while we're in the Panhellinic spirit, check out this fun web page: http://www.npcwomen.org/about/badgeposter.pdf

I love looking at all the badges!

azdtaxi 01-17-2004 12:05 PM

We didnt go over it in our pledge program but I also read everything I ever got from the sorority so I picked up some knowledge about other sororities.

laureagd 01-22-2004 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by pirepresent
Wow, awesome list AOPiRose! I've been meaning to do that, but i've been too lazy :( Thanks so much!!

Also, Phi Sig is colonizing at the University of Minnesota- Duluth. The chapter, Iota Zeta, I believe, will be installed in Jan. 04.

That is AWESOME! My best friend from high school attends UM-D and ever since I joined AGD (and wouldn't shut up about it, lol) she has said that she'd want to join a inter/national sorority as well, but I think up until now they have only had locals and Gamma Sigma Sigma, a service sorority.

Very cool :) Congrats to Phi Sig and their baby chapter!


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