Dream crusher.

The Ski Club rules.


Oh yea, I'm the prick snowboarder that joined just to piss everyone else off ;)

Drink, snowboarder!

Possibly not the best way to win friends and influence people.

Or get a bid as a ski instructor. :)

I'll bet the ski club would haze..

I have a couple of friends on the ski club here, so I can say with certainty that unless co-ed naked drunk hot-tubbing counts as hazing, our ski team does not haze. ;)

This Ski Club thing is now officially going downhill. (rimshot!)

I'm going to take away your mittens for that no good joke. :p

ummm, that's nice. homophobia is MY FAVORITE.

that said---
the only reason I'd give you a bid to SKI CLUB is so I could haze you. You would be my personal hot chocolate fetcher.

Can I be a charter member of Gamma Sigma Chi??? (GreekChat Ski Club???)

I don't know how to ski (yet), but putting me right out on those black diamond runs would qualify as the perfect hazing activity!!!

ok for all you people out there that are telling me that pledging a glo that doesnt hase isnt like joining a ski club tell me what was so hard about you getting in. so what you had to take a few tests yeah i had to do that too. why would you just let people into your organization without even making it hard for them?

Because they are intelligent, amazing women who we want to share our love and sisterhood with!

Dee

ummm....

Because we like them and want to have them as brothers or sisters? Right, I don't want my GLO to grow. In fact, I want people to be dissuaded from joining because they think I'll hit them. I want others to think badly of me and fear joining my group because it's "hard".

It seems like your philosophy of recruitment is that you take people you essentially don't like and then "mold" them into some sick being with hazing. Recruitment/rush in itself is a selective process, it's not "easy" to get into any group.

Next time you're "hasing" your pledges think about that.

We shouldn't have to mold people into a Gamma Phi Beta (or a Delta Delta Delta, or a Kappa Sigma, or a Sigma Phi Epsilon, etc...). They should already have the characteristics we require in a member. Their new member period should enhance those qualities, rather than drill them into their heads. I'd rather take a pledge class of 5 girls who are already good Gamma Phis and hold onto all of them until initiation, rather than take 15 girls, haze them, and have 3 who we found "worthy" to wear our letters.

There's a difference between working and learning about a group (pledging) and doing senseless stuff (hazing). Gart, if what you are referring to is "pledging" please say so...don't act like you're a badass if you're not.

And believe me, every chapter at your school DOES NOT HAZE.

33girl is my role model.
Of course our new members work hard to learn about our sororities and fraternities!! I just don't see how hitting them, yelling at them, or depriving them of sleep constitutes learning about the sorority or fraternity, or how it embodies GLO values. All that being hazed shows a commitment (if is shows any--it's more fear-based) is to giving in to peer pressure and to hanging out with jerks.

And believe me, every chapter at your school DOES NOT HAZE. [/B][/QUOTE]

Sorry 33girl but everyone here does if they admit it or not, and working to get into a glo here hazing is a part of the pledging process every part of being hazed teaches you something and makes you a stronger person. I can compare my pledging process to my football camp in highschool there were alot of things during football that i didnt want to do but i did them because i knew there was a reason for all of them. I have seen the other fraternities taking their pledges out into the woods in the middle of winter and i have seen the sororities publicly humiliate their pledges by making them wear toilet seats around their neck. Here its not just if you want to be in a glo or any organization here for that matter but how much dedication would you give to your society.

Well, I know I for one would much rather demonstrate my dedication to my GLO by wearing a toilet seat around my neck than showing up to meetings and being involved in all the activities. :rolleyes:

Just because one sorority does it...and I'm pretty sure I know which one...do not assume they all do it.

gart,

That's sad.

As for high school football, take a look at the hazing webpages and you will find serious crackdowns on hazing activities in sports as well.

Hazing is part of old "traditions" whos times have past.

Hazing and alcohol abuse are also the main reasons for high insurance costs for fraternities.

Whether the rules are obeyed or not, EVERY national fraternity forbids hazing. And, more and more, they are adapting a zero tolerance for it. In other words, you get caught, you're history.

Become an alumni advisor, and then come back a few years from now and we'll chat. Chances are pretty good that experience will have changed your outlook.

Besides (broken record time), it's not just against the rules, it's against the law.

damn gart, it seems like you have never posted before on GC! But with only 6 posts.

Sounds very familiar, dont YOU Think?:(

TA DA!:rolleyes:

Im not talking about hazing during my highschool football experience im just talking about what it took to make the team. Running bags, hitting sleds, just the physical part of it. Part of our traditions in our fraternity is almost every guy here is in good physical condition and it has always been that way. Just like in football there is only one way to separate the strong from the weak, by putting the guys to the test. If they are willing to do what it takes. If not they can join a girly frat and who wants that reputation, not me. There is no reason the "old traditions" have to die if the guys who want to join know what they are getting into and if you make sure you only give bids to the guys that you respect and respect you. This is our 41st aniversary year and we didnt let them die why would anyone else let their traditions die. Just because its illeagal so is underage drinking and can you tell me that none of you have drank underage or bought alcohal for someone underage or given house beer to someone underage?

Oh and i do disagree with public humiliation just so you guys dont yell at me for that one. We dont do that.

Of course not, but that was over thirty years ago, and the times and consequences have changed dramatically since then.

We've been through this before.

41 years...wow. I'm sure we'd be impressed if there weren't tons of posters on here from chapters that were 141 years old. :p 41 years is BABY in GLO time.

No matter what he's saying, that's not really fair. You have to take into account the age of the campus, when their Greek system began, and the fact that locals are getting fewer and farther between, so for any of them to survive is admirable.

The opinions and postings of one person do not mean that disparaging their whole fraternity is warranted.

I don't think she was disparaging. Just pointing out a fact.

And gart, 33girl is right -- not every GLO does haze. And hazing isn't showing dedication. Dedication is alumns who still contribute and are still active DECADES after their initation. Not 20 year old boys making 17 year old boys poop in buckets.

I was trying to point out that 41 years isn't a whole lot of tradition to some of us - not that it doesn't mean they aren't a legitamate fraternity, but that 41 years to somebody from the Beta chapter of Delt or the Alpha Chapter of Tri Sigma isn't going to seem like a lot.

yeah but have you kept the same traditions for the whole 141 years or did you change them? We didnt just change all of our traditions because we were afraid of getting caught we just made it harder for them to catch us. Oh and where i am at we are the oldest glo on our campus.

If you don't stop hazing, where will it lead?
 

Man accused of paddling college students in exchange for rent, book money:

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/...nders001.shtml

i completly agree that you shouldnt hit your pledges. why would anyone hit someone that is going to be your friends?

Please don't use the words "hazing" and "traditions" interchangably. It makes the rest of us look bad.

I don't know that abuse is one of those "traditions" you should be proud to announce your fraternity proudly carries on...

and, you WILL get caught. And then you'll be the chapter that isn't on campus.

Exactly!! Why would you haze someone that is going to be your friend?

Yea, that does suck.

Because there are parts of hazing that teaches the pledges lessons. Like teamwork and to never give up. Yeah you could do those same things just by a scavenger hunt but not to the same extent. When they have to remind each other to keep going no matter what happens and they would do whatever it takes to join us in our brotherhood then thats teamwork and they learned everything it takes to be a brother.

$20 says that if you make a list of "everything it takes to be a brother," GC can come up with not one not two but THREE ways to do that without hazing.

You're not GreekChat alone.

Here's the hugest problem with hazing: Ya'll get caught or have one incedent resulting from hazing. Your 41 years of tradition could be down the drain because of one screwup. It's not worth it, there are better ways.