Ha, if You are a Mason, I am Scotish Rite, there is no wood or I would have kicked the Sh*t out of them!:mad:

It is supposed to be a Brotherhood of Friends!

32 Degree!

Interesting Discussion
 

While we may all have our differences about pledging, we must focus on what is important. For organizations that paddle and those that don't, are your members just members or are they productive brothers and sisters? As long as they give back to the organization on a chapter level, national level and community level then the "process" was successful.

I was not paddled and wouldn't allow it to take place but I am a Chapter President, I am the VP of my Greek Senate, an Editor of my school paper, the university's Junior Class President last year on, have my own radio show and a million other things. I don't say it to brag; I say it to prove a point-brotherhood/sisterhood and wood have no direct correlation.

Any and all forms of new member intake can produce great brothers and sisters if done in good taste. The only way to judge if one way is better than the other is to look at the organization's productivity and each individual's productivity.

Well some might argue that whether the activity is legal or not would be another way to judge. Hazing is not legal in many parts of this country, and certainly not condoned by many national organizations, so my judgment would be that paddling is wrong.


Just sayin...

I don't condone or support paddling nor do I think it is necessary. But state laws consider making people study history or giving a pop-quiz as a hazing activity so most Organizations haze by law.

For some organizations, however, paddling has been connected to ancient rituals (though that is not how it was introduced to Greek life) and as long as it does not step outside of that tradition I will not tell someone that they cannot do that or should not. The issue is that it does often reach far outside of that tradition and becomes a sport.

:D

Wow, the term discretion wasn't known back in 2000, huh?

As has been seen, "using wood" can also do bodily harm to an individual, and that can be used as assault with a weapon.

I too have to agree with most of the posters here.
While "Pledge Paddles" have a great deal of tradition behind them (no pun meant here), some of those traditions can cause a great deal of trouble these days.

Besides the rather strong possibly/probability of breaking anti-hazing rules and laws, one is also looking at A&B with intent to commit bodily harm or some form of that.

We can cause our own problems and they only get worse when TPTB react to the stupid things we do.

wood and tradition is part of the, "Process", 1920 Howard Univercity. If this part of the process was not experienced then...:o

visit Us at www.dzbantu.com "stooping that low", has apart of our tradition since 1911?!! And, "stooping", at traditional Campus locations.

Then what?

You GO girl!

Hmmmmm...LG....interesting concept that discretion you speak of! Is it foreign?:rolleyes::) Really some people should try it out. I'm glad you brought it up! Such a wise grasshopper!! Luv ya LG!



Also, DZNupe.....the people you are quoting don't post anymore those post were from 7 years ago.

That was a guy he's a Sigma.

skull and bones
 

please, research the, " Hazing traditions ", of the ELITE fraternities that MAKE THE LAWS.

Ooops.apologies due my brother.

the beat goes on... I'd presume

please, don't misunderstand me. My chapter no longer participates in Hazing, to my dismay.
:rolleyes:

PP wasn't enought for you, huh? You decided to bring your inaneness here to GC.

Why of course not! I didn't post this thread nor had anything to do with it.
I resent you even concluding to such!
Evidently.. My PP thread was liked by someone here.

Or not.

What about the instance of a "solo" line. How would taking "wood" be benificial the individual if the main concept of "wood" is to bring the line together?:confused:

After looking through this thread...wow... that's... simply amazing. ...and, in reference to the question, no, no one in my chapter ever has, or ever will "take wood" or be hazed in any way (Sigma Nu)...albeit, I do know that most other fraternities on our campus still take part in hazing.

Also, what, you humiliate and injure your own BROTHERS/SISTERS for what? Tradition? It makes no sense... you don't tear somebody down to build them up, that's now how it works and it's not showing LOVE to them, you're not being TRUTHful to them and their parents by claiming you won't do such a thing at the start, and it's not making you an HONORable person doing it.

Hmmm...
 

yep:cool:

:DI'll see you there Nupe. I owe you some deference too. 3...and I'll bring the party to you. You know how we do it. :)

I have no personal experience nor first-hand information, but you don't think they really "ride the goat," do you? 'Cause that's MESSED UP! LOL :D

I was with you until here. Our 22 would have been appalled at anyone taking wood for them. And I have heard that come out of more than one of their's mouths.

Wood! Using this word for making men? Men in your group.

It is called assault with a weapon.

Making a man out of paddling is inane and barbaric.

The first as-whole who toched me with WOOD would be in a world of hurt!

Would I have become a member of that group, no, not only NO, but Hell No!

If you are that stupid then so be it.

Speaking of wood........I hope you get a splinter......IN YOUR EYE.