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The Black Fonz 08-31-2007 10:18 AM

He put the Danny Glover on her and blamed Satan?

Classic

CrimsonTide4 09-04-2007 08:02 AM

Snakes in the Pulpit
 
Has anyone heard aboutSnakes in the Pulpit? It is a book coming out this month that my cousin told my mother and me about this weekend.

From the website:

The number of megachurches featured on National TV and radio have spawned a new type of celebrity: megapastors. These men have risen in stature and gained the public's trust as irreproachable men of God as their churches have attracted hundreds of thousands of members and millions of viewers and listeners.
http://www.snakesinthepulpit.com/tp.gifBut are these men, their methods and intentions really beyond reproach? One man says no, and he's set to be the voice of doubt crying out into the wilderness of what he believes to be blind faith.
http://www.snakesinthepulpit.com/tp.gif"I want to expose the deception and the lies that are going on right now when it comes to these megachurches and their pastors," Armstrong said. "I'm a Christian, and I don't want people thinking I'm against God or anything like that. I believe in the church, but I don't believe in people saying one thing and doing another."

What do you think?

Conskeeted7 09-04-2007 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1512469)
Has anyone heard aboutSnakes in the Pulpit? It is a book coming out this month that my cousin told my mother and me about this weekend.

From the website:

The number of megachurches featured on National TV and radio have spawned a new type of celebrity: megapastors. These men have risen in stature and gained the public's trust as irreproachable men of God as their churches have attracted hundreds of thousands of members and millions of viewers and listeners.
http://www.snakesinthepulpit.com/tp.gifBut are these men, their methods and intentions really beyond reproach? One man says no, and he's set to be the voice of doubt crying out into the wilderness of what he believes to be blind faith.
http://www.snakesinthepulpit.com/tp.gif"I want to expose the deception and the lies that are going on right now when it comes to these megachurches and their pastors," Armstrong said. "I'm a Christian, and I don't want people thinking I'm against God or anything like that. I believe in the church, but I don't believe in people saying one thing and doing another."

What do you think?

I hadn't heard of the book before now.

Why are people so quick to try and find deception in the lives of ministers? Yes, a minister has to live life at a different level because of his position in the body of Christ. I agree with that. Ministers should strive to walk the straight and narrow. But the only one who hasn't ever succumb to temptation was Jesus himself, but He was tempted. The devil tried. As long as people put their trust and faith in the people who lead the church instead of who they are being led to, they will be disappointed at some point. The role of the minster is to lead us to have a closer relationship and understanding for ourselves. If a minister is not leading the church in a manner you can agree with, leave the church and pray for him. If his life is a lie, leave the church and pray for him. Humans have a sinful nature. None of us is perfect. I've always understood that. I guess I was under the impression that most others were as well.

delph998 09-04-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conskeeted7 (Post 1512522)
I hadn't heard of the book before now.

Why are people so quick to try and find deception in the lives of ministers? Yes, a minister has to live life at a different level because of his position in the body of Christ. I agree with that. Ministers should strive to walk the straight and narrow. But the only one who hasn't ever succumb to temptation was Jesus himself, but He was tempted. The devil tried. As long as people put their trust and faith in the people who lead the church instead of who they are being led to, they will be disappointed at some point. The role of the minster is to lead us to have a closer relationship and understanding for ourselves. If a minister is not leading the church in a manner you can agree with, leave the church and pray for him. If his life is a lie, leave the church and pray for him. Humans have a sinful nature. None of us is perfect. I've always understood that. I guess I was under the impression that most others were as well.


I agree Conskeeted.

I have mixed views about this person writing a book about megachurches and megapastors. I think on one hand it's not our place to expose "the mess." Then on the other hand, I see how and why people are so upset with how this new movement has become a business versus a ministry and feel the need to speak out against it. My personal opinion: God will do the exposing in due time. We need to continue to go the church that we feel we're being ministered to and pray for the state of our nation.

Conskeeted7 09-06-2007 04:56 PM

Did anyone else catch Fox5 last night in Atlanta? Juanita had an exclusive interview with them and discussed the attack, her feelings, and plans in the future. She admitted that there was "pushing and shoving" in the past in their relationship. She also said she's filed for divorce already.

CrimsonTide4 09-06-2007 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conskeeted7 (Post 1514273)
Did anyone else catch Fox5 last night in Atlanta? Juanita had an exclusive interview with them and discussed the attack, her feelings, and plans in the future. She admitted that there was "pushing and shoving" in the past in their relationship. She also said she's filed for divorce already.


I read it http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pa...Y&pageId=1.1.1

as well as about Weeks' finances
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pa...d=1.1.1&sflg=1

RBL 09-07-2007 12:57 PM

oh well the No More Fists tour will be on and poppin come Winter 2007 thru 2010.

Conferences, books, CD's, Megafest, ..........Get Ready Get Ready Get Ready Get Ready

CrimsonTide4 09-07-2007 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBL (Post 1514826)
oh well the No More Fists tour will be on and poppin come Winter 2007 thru 2010.

Conferences, books, CD's, Megafest, ..........Get Ready Get Ready Get Ready Get Ready

Ha! That's what I called it the day we found out.

delph998 09-09-2007 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1514290)

Thanks for that resource, CT4.

CrimsonTide4 09-18-2007 04:08 PM

Juanita Bynum Better Quit Playing With Me

From http://www.sandrarose.com/news.htm

Televangelist Juanita Bynum has a special request for emergency seeds for a new 'threshing floor'. This is a place where she says she goes to pray for you - or at least those of you who sow your seeds of $1000 or more. In this video Juanita says she has been asked to leave her old threshing floor. Probably for the same reason her husband the Bishop was evicted from his threshing floor - not paying his mortgage on time.

Now Juanita says God has given her the land to build a new threshing floor - the new spot boasts 30 acres with 12 lakes where she will go and "touch God for you". All she needs is $200,000 in "emergency seeds right now" to start building. Silly me, I thought you could pray anywhere at anytime for anyone. But I guess not. You see I learned something new from Juanita today.

http://link. brightcove. com/services/ link/bcpid115515 9835/bclid111926 2077/bctid117588 6646 (video where she petitions for money)

12dn94dst 09-18-2007 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1521783)

Now Juanita says God has given her the land to build a new threshing floor - the new spot boasts 30 acres with 12 lakes where she will go and "touch God for you".

that's a lot of room for a floor. is it a community floor or just for her, cuz surely she doesn't need ALL that room to lay prostrate and pray? just askin.

CrimsonTide4 09-18-2007 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12dn94dst (Post 1521821)
that's a lot of room for a floor. is it a community floor or just for her, cuz surely she doesn't need ALL that room to lay prostrate and pray? just askin.

I don't think we are able/invited to come sit and pray with her for a spell, but if you give $1000 to build the floor, you will get your name engraved on a gold plate on the threshing floor wall.

I pray folks discern that none of this is of God. You don't need to pay anybody to pray for you. As long as you have a mouth, you can pray. As long as you have thoughts, you can pray.


I just wondered: Do deaf people pray using sign language? I am genuinely curious.:o

RBL 09-18-2007 06:03 PM

She need to stop playing

1908Revelations 09-18-2007 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1521824)
I don't think we are able/invited to come sit and pray with her for a spell, but if you give $1000 to build the floor, you will get your name engraved on a gold plate on the threshing floor wall.

I pray folks discern that none of this is of God. You don't need to pay anybody to pray for you. As long as you have a mouth, you can pray. As long as you have thoughts, you can pray.

Say it again!!! I can pray for free and I still give my 10%.

CrimsonTide4 09-18-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBL (Post 1521863)
She need to stop playing

Yes, she does!

delph998 09-18-2007 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1521783)
Juanita Bynum Better Quit Playing With Me

From http://www.sandrarose.com/news.htm

Televangelist Juanita Bynum has a special request for emergency seeds for a new 'threshing floor'. This is a place where she says she goes to pray for you - or at least those of you who sow your seeds of $1000 or more. In this video Juanita says she has been asked to leave her old threshing floor. Probably for the same reason her husband the Bishop was evicted from his threshing floor - not paying his mortgage on time.

Now Juanita says God has given her the land to build a new threshing floor - the new spot boasts 30 acres with 12 lakes where she will go and "touch God for you". All she needs is $200,000 in "emergency seeds right now" to start building. Silly me, I thought you could pray anywhere at anytime for anyone. But I guess not. You see I learned something new from Juanita today.

http://link. brightcove. com/services/ link/bcpid115515 9835/bclid111926 2077/bctid117588 6646 (video where she petitions for money)

WOW! That's just sickening.

Little32 09-18-2007 07:16 PM

Is she really a doctor? Because I don't always see that title attached to her name.

OOhsoflyDELTA#9 09-18-2007 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1521824)
I don't think we are able/invited to come sit and pray with her for a spell, but if you give $1000 to build the floor, you will get your name engraved on a gold plate on the threshing floor wall.
I pray folks discern that none of this is of God. You don't need to pay anybody to pray for you. As long as you have a mouth, you can pray. As long as you have thoughts, you can pray.


I just wondered: Do deaf people pray using sign language? I am genuinely curious.:o

imma need to be able to come to my "piece" of the floor and chill for a bit for $1000 ya know....:rolleyes:

CrimsonTide4 09-18-2007 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1521940)
Is she really a doctor? Because I don't always see that title attached to her name.

Prophetess was new to me so you know Doctor is too, lol.

If she really needs this money, why not pawn those wedding rings? Sell that wedding dress on Ebay.

Today a Soror sent an e-mail where Weeks is selling all of her stuff -- books, tapes, etc. for $5 and other things are being sold for 99 cents. These folks are low DOWN!!!

delph998 09-18-2007 07:46 PM

Are you serious? I think they're true colors are kinda being exposed right now. Just not cool.

CrimsonTide4 09-18-2007 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delph998 (Post 1521958)
Are you serious? I think they're true colors are kinda being exposed right now. Just not cool.

Yup. Let me see if I can make it a JPG file and post it on GC.

CrimsonTide4 09-18-2007 08:01 PM

Title of the E-mail is Everything Must Go! $5 Sale
 
http://websrvr81il.audiovideoweb.com...-Sale-Sale.jpg

delph998 09-18-2007 08:05 PM

That's just WRONG! I can't believe it.

ladygreek 09-18-2007 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delph998 (Post 1521973)
That's just WRONG! I can't believe it.

why not? it's certainly nothing new.

delph998 09-18-2007 11:20 PM

^^^Big time pastors stooping to that level? It sounds so elementary. I know it's nothing new, but it's just wack.

nikki1920 09-19-2007 12:17 PM

ok, wow.. that's just tacky.

And why would I pay $1000 for someone else to pray for me??:mad::mad:

Bynum always struck me as a bit smarmy. :rolleyes:

UrbanizdSkillz 09-19-2007 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1521824)
I pray folks discern that none of this is of God. You don't need to pay anybody to pray for you. As long as you have a mouth, you can pray. As long as you have thoughts, you can pray.

Say that!

And people still wonder why her marriage is falling apart. I wish I would send her a cool grand to pray for me. If that thought should cross my mind I ask God to remove it right now. The devil IS a lie.

delph998 09-19-2007 09:38 PM

May I Preach for a Second
 
Furthermore, no one needs ANYBODY to pray for them. We can pray for ourselves. God resides in us. We don't have to go to the high preist any more. Jesus paid it all for us so we can have that personal relationship with Him.

This is an example of a "form of godliness."

II Tim 3:5 --Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

I'm done now.

PrettyInPink777 09-19-2007 11:38 PM

This is like a scene in a movie.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1521969)


Reminds me of that scene in Waiting To Exhale when Angela Bassett was having a $1 yard sale of all of her cheating husband's expensive belongings. This is just too trifling and sad -- and not a good representation of Christianity. (...but why start now, I guess, after the parking lot madness?!?)

::::good grief::::

BlessedOne04 09-20-2007 01:03 AM

That man needs money to keep himself out of jail and debt! Juanita Bynum would still get half of that money anyway.

PrettyInPink777 09-20-2007 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlessedOne04 (Post 1523109)
That man needs money to keep himself out of jail and debt! Juanita Bynum would still get half of that money anyway.


Good point -- and, truth be told, in a minute it is probable that they would never be able to get that inventory sold.

CrimsonTide4 09-20-2007 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrettyInPink777 (Post 1523069)
Reminds me of that scene in Waiting To Exhale when Angela Bassett was having a $1 yard sale of all of her cheating husband's expensive belongings. This is just too trifling and sad -- and not a good representation of Christianity. (...but why start now, I guess, after the parking lot madness?!?)

::::good grief::::

That's exactly what I said when I saw the e-mail. He must have spent the weekend watching Waiting to Exhale, cutting out that S-curl (I hope, lol), and listening to the soundtrack.

I don't know everything but I do know that prayer is always and will always be free! If you can't go to God for yourself, don't expect anybody else to do it for you. Although I do believe in others joining in your petition to God and praying to God for you, don't be lazy and not pray for yourself. Right now, Juanita and Thomas need to BE QUIET and be praying for themselves.

PrettyInPink777 09-20-2007 08:51 AM

So True!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1523149)

I don't know everything but I do know that prayer is always and will always be free! If you can't go to God for yourself, don't expect anybody else to do it for you. Although I do believe in others joining in your petition to God and praying to God for you, don't be lazy and not pray for yourself.


Hallelujer .....Amen, sisterGreek! Preach :)

lovelyivy84 09-20-2007 06:05 PM

There was an article about her on the fron page of the NYTimes today. Anyone see it?

Here's the link.

Quote:
Since the attack, Ms. Bynum, 48, has tried to reinvent herself once more, announcing that she is “the new face of domestic violence.” But Tom Joyner, the syndicated radio talk show host, did not let her off the hook so easily: “If you’re a prophet,” Mr. Joyner asked, “didn’t you see this coming?”

PrettyInPink777 09-20-2007 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1523763)
There was an article about her on the fron page of the NYTimes today. Anyone see it?

Here's the link.

Quote:
Since the attack, Ms. Bynum, 48, has tried to reinvent herself once more, announcing that she is “the new face of domestic violence.” But Tom Joyner, the syndicated radio talk show host, did not let her off the hook so easily: “If you’re a prophet,” Mr. Joyner asked, “didn’t you see this coming?”

ohhhh, snap.

nikki1920 09-21-2007 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1523763)
But Tom Joyner, the syndicated radio talk show host, did not let her off the hook so easily: “If you’re a prophet,” Mr. Joyner asked, “didn’t you see this coming?”

Period.com.

bwhahahahahahaha......

*goes to read for her response to that*

ETA: she had none.
I dont even know what to say about the article.

CrimsonTide4 09-21-2007 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovelyivy84 (Post 1523763)
There was an article about her on the fron page of the NYTimes today. Anyone see it?

Here's the link.

Quote:
Since the attack, Ms. Bynum, 48, has tried to reinvent herself once more, announcing that she is “the new face of domestic violence.” But Tom Joyner, the syndicated radio talk show host, did not let her off the hook so easily: “If you’re a prophet,” Mr. Joyner asked, “didn’t you see this coming?”

From the article:

The assault, Dr. Lee said, is a challenge to Ms. Bynum’s credibility: “Maybe she’s been living a lie all these years.”

Uhh, yeah.

But during the marriage, Ms. Bynum publicly focused on the duties of a Christian wife, counseling women to give their husbands plenty of sex and to ask them, “Do I please you?”

Juanita sit DOWN!

About this time, Ms. Bynum glamorized her own look, trading a bun for a hair weave, picture-perfect makeup and plastic surgery that she discussed on the BET network. Her wardrobe went from ankle-length skirts to casual chic and glittering jewelry.

Say what?

In the seminars, she sermonized, “I don’t care what kind of husband you got, that’s your covenant vow, and you have a responsibility to make him feel like he’s a wonder when you know he ain’t.”

The hell I do.

AKA2D '91 09-21-2007 08:55 AM

Dang!
I thoughtshe had gone under the knife.

Playing choich and playing with the Lord.

^
|------ wants no part of that! My prayers don't cost a thing, but WORTH SO MUCH!!!!!!

FeeFee 09-21-2007 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1524309)
From the article:

The assault, Dr. Lee said, is a challenge to Ms. Bynum’s credibility: “Maybe she’s been living a lie all these years.”

Uhh, yeah.

But during the marriage, Ms. Bynum publicly focused on the duties of a Christian wife, counseling women to give their husbands plenty of sex and to ask them, “Do I please you?”

Juanita sit DOWN!

About this time, Ms. Bynum glamorized her own look, trading a bun for a hair weave, picture-perfect makeup and plastic surgery that she discussed on the BET network. Her wardrobe went from ankle-length skirts to casual chic and glittering jewelry.

Say what?

In the seminars, she sermonized, “I don’t care what kind of husband you got, that’s your covenant vow, and you have a responsibility to make him feel like he’s a wonder when you know he ain’t.”

The hell I do.


Wow, just wow. She really need to just lay low and keep quiet.

nikki1920 09-21-2007 09:47 AM

That last statement really got to me. If he aint wonder to me, why would I make him feel like that? Isn't that a lie?

I have a real problem with people who have blatant self esteem issues telling me how to "get and keep a man". Keep playing with Him and see what happens.


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