as for the measles, we all received a note about this from the university. Add the flu and a stomach virus to the illnesses floating around.

My daughters group was 22 before break and 17 when they returned. I also know 2 of her friends registered for recruitment but are deciding to move home (they are out of state) and change schools next year so they did not return early for rush.
Out of curiosity my daughter had a semester GPA of 3.7 but carried a GPA into her 1st year from a Trig class she took as a Senior at her High School that she did less than stellar at lol. I think like a 2.5 but it brought down her cumulative GPA. Was she right in using her cumulative and not her semester GPA? I know it doesn't matter at this point I was just curious.

I would think they'd use official semester GPAs from the Records office, not individually reported GPAs. Although your daughter adjusted her's down and was overly honest, someone could fudge theirs upward -- so I would guess the Panhellenic office will have access to official IU-only GPAs. It's very likely that she signed a grade release form...that's typical.

I didn't think of that. I just knew she had to report to her RG before rush and write it on her white card. Thank you for explaining.

Out of curiosity, what would happen if a PNM were to Pref 1 or 2 houses that do not take QAs, and did not match? Do many houses decline to take QAs? I'm probably overthinking, but can't help but worry.

Safe travels to you, ForeverRoses!

When I worked at a school with deferred recruitment, we verified every GPA when we gave the PNM lists to Panhel and IFC, and when aspirants for NPHC groups signed release forms for their records to be released to the chapter. You would be surprised (or maybe not, depending on how cynical you are) about how many people fudge upward pretty significantly.

I have no idea! I am so in a bubble just for the sorority that I advise right now that most of what I know about other chapters is from the Rho Gammas and Student Life & Learning.
But honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about the numbers game. The numbers will drive your crazy.

I just called MJ insurance's Sorority Division in Indianapolis to discuss some chapter house coverage changes, and their voice mail said they're closed today due to inclement weather.

Any changes to the IU recruitment schedule?

Classes are going on like normal so I’m guessing recruitment will as well.

I'm not surprised. IU pretty much never cancels classes.

Pretty much, yes. :)

Hoping all of the women stay safe tonight and this weekend. The sidewalks may be slick tonight when the temperature drops. Wishing everyone involved a great weekend!

Sending best wishes to all moms and their daughters! I don't know about all of you, but still waiting to hear about 9 party round. So exciting and nerve-racking at the same time!

Still waiting...��

Two good songs on my playlist today:

It's A Great Life! by the Fifth Dimension

Don't Worry Be Happy by Bobby McFerrin

Do not worry about that which you cannot control. All will work out in the end.

Daughter just called, from her initial 5 she only lost 1 and is now down to 4 so she was happy with that. She has one party tonight and 3 tomorrow. Her favorite is still on her list and the one she lost was her 2nd favorite. Overall, she was very happy with her list. She was getting ready for her first one tonight since it starts at 6pm. We will talk to her later tonight.

Hoping that everyone else involved in this process is doing well. My daughter just called deeply disappointed that she was cut by her top 3, including her legacy chapter :(.

She has a full 9 schedule but only one of her top 4 remains and trying to convince her to stay positive and hope that the one she still REALLY likes will be there on Tuesday has been a hard sell.

She is nursing her disappointment and trying to get ready for the parties. Oh boy! I feel worse than I did when I got cut from some of my favorites myself, oh so long ago.

My goddaughter has 7 return invites and is happy with all of them. She told me she was very happy and there wasn't one chapter that cut her that she was really sad about. She is keeping an open mind about the chapters she's visiting this weekend and looking forward to the sisterhood round.

Heard from my daughter as well. She has 8 to go to - a mix of her top and bottom and is feeling pretty good about having what she has. We all know it only takes 1 and after having lived through the very highs and lows with my older daughter - she has seen firsthand that it really does work out the way it's supposed to. As I told my daughter, you have only met these girls for a little more than an hour and they you. It is a numbers game to a certain extent.

I think this round really does start to shift things for the girls and they start to see a different perspective of each house, especially ones that might not have been their favorites. And the chapters they have on their list see something in them that says "sister." Wishing your daughters the best!

Finally heard from my daughter. She has 9 parties with a mix of interest. Her roommate went from 16 to 2 she is not interested in and has chosen to drop. I’m very sad for her. I wish she would at least finish and then decide.

With a large recruitment like IU, the first round is a whirlwind, and the second is slightly less so. During the third round, PNMs will start to get a better feel for the sisterhood of the chapter, and those keeping an open mind will really start to get a feel for where they fit.

For those going in with set favorites at this point, it's just too early in the process to get too attached, give up, or feel sincerely disappointed because the group you just LOVED after two days or "Top Tier XYZ" didn't invite you back. Easier said than done if you're 18 but PNMs really should be looking for the HOME where they'll be HAPPY long term. It's not about the reputation or the letters.

That being said, the PNMs will start to feel some serious connections after round 3, and with only 2 Pref invites, there's bound to be some disappointment. And being released by a legacy group can definitely hurt.

In the long run, it's about the relationships you build, and the supportive home away from home that ALL NPC groups offer. :)

My daughter got back 5 with her legacy still on the list. One party tonight and 4 tomorrow. She was surprised by 2 that cut her this last round but happy to have the list she has. Thankful to this site for certain phrases. Her party tonight is at house she has no idea why they keep having her back, I reminded her to have an open mind and that "they must see something they like" ;) Her party just ended excited to hear how it went.

Rough night for some of my daughters friends, several are upset with what they got back, don't think they were prepared for the harsh cuts. Her roommate got back 4 and all houses she wasn't interested in. She is still going through it though. Another friend said 3 girls from her group dropped tonight after getting their lists back.

Daughter said she had a good visit tonight and feels better about what to expect tomorrow. She has two houses tomorrow that she likes and 1 she hasn't really connected with yet but that could change. As of now she knows her order of preference but still keeping an open mind.

Her legacy chapter is still in play which she is happy about but would be okay if it doesn't work out.

My daughter said several girls in her original group dropped tonight. :(

Glad all the girls have parties. Hoping they have a great time at all of them and have good invitations next round.

Seems like there are still many positive, optimistic PNM’s out there, and that is good news!

My daughter got 5 back today, and the cut from 10 in the last round was a bit of a reality check. Disappointment and tears ☹️ Lost several of her favorites, and she’s starting to question whether she made the right choice to rush, because she’s feeling that despite all the effort and time, she may come out of this process without finding the home she had hoped for.

That said, she refuses to quit, and will stick thru the process until the end, whatever the result. Proud of her, and frankly all of the girls who have gone through this process with open minds and open hearts.

I've been lurking. I was in a sorority at IU in the 1980s and my daughter is going through recruitment. She has seven sororities left and they may not be "top" in the popularity rankings but have plenty of strong qualities. As for the big cuts, it seems like that aspect has not changed much at IU. When I went through the parties were 18-12-8-4-2. I had nearly all the sororities I wanted for 12 party but took big cuts after that and attended one party at preference. But it worked out! I fear some girls had their pick going from 22 to 16 and then took big cuts going to 9 and so they are now discouraged and dropping out. That is really a shame because the sororities they have left are most likely very strong. And I do realize that some girls have been invited back to just a few sororities, which are considered less selective. The reality is at least a third of the PNMs at IU end up in one of these sororities, drop recruitment because they get to these choices they "don't like," or just don't get invited back to any.

So this is probably a stupid question, but since they can only Pref 2 houses, does that mean the chapters are inviting back 1/3 fewer PNMs? Or do the PNM numbers stay the same, but split into 2 parties?

Chapters will still invite a similar number back based on their return rates and will have at least two parties. A chapter could have three preference parties if they invite a large number of PNMs back. The PNMs will only have two parties.

Ok, thanks!

Sending positive vibes to everyone today. Waiting on todays list is so hard. This has been quite a roller coaster ride. Where is everyone from? We are in Indiana, 3rd child as an IU Hoosier and a 14 yr old boy.

Thanks! Best wishes to these awesome girls and their families! There is a lot of nail biting happening right now. We are from the West suburbs of Chicago. This is our oldest, so my first experience as a parent. It definitely was easier to be the Rushee, as we were called in the 80s.

I wasn't Greek so I have no experience to give her, my oldest daughter has been a huge help especially after her first cut which was her biggest. She went from 22 to 8. She always had a great way to pep talk her. It's been a positive experience for my daughter in regards to the amount of people she has met. She's in a single on the quiet side of campus (not by choice) so she has met more girls in her neighborhood which is great.

We are also in the west suburbs of Chicago and I have my second Hoosier daughter. Sending happy thoughts and good vibes to you all! I'm expecting the worst but hoping for the best!

Thinking of all of you parents and your daughters this morning! A year ago (when the pref lists came out), I was a nervous wreck! Hoping for great results for your PNMs!

Daughter just texted, got back her two favorite houses. Including her number 1 from the very start.

That's awesome BBH!!! So exciting for her! Still waiting for mine.

Just heard from my daughter, she got back 2 of her top 4 and is very excited!

Congratulations to all! Still waiting here too....

Thanks, didn't realize I'd be nervous not only for my daughter but now all of yours. Sending good thoughts to everyone.

Just heard from my daughter. She got invited back to two chapters that she really loves. One of those has been in her top 4 from the very start. She would be excited for a bid from either of these groups.

We are from PA. This is my second time going through recruitment as a parent. My older daughter pledged my legacy chapter and I was hopeful that it might be the same for this one at IU. That did not work out. But, I am happy that she is very happy.

My third daughter just started into the process at Penn State (twins). So, as this process is wrapping up, I am just getting started with another one that won't culminate until Jan 22nd! :eek: