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DeltaGlamorous0 10-08-2017 04:45 PM

These girls are not so superficial
 
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 2440241)
This is kind of a mish mosh of thoughts but bear with me.

Honesty time.
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Every PNM who drops out because they "did not feel a connection" and wants a "better connection next time" generally means that they did not end up with one of the six or so chapters that everyone wants to be in. They are hopeful that one of these six or eight will "connect better" next time.

The thing with that is, these six or eight are the chapters that EVERYONE tends to feel connected with. That is why you know their names when people talk about the "best at UT." They're good at recruitment. They make you feel like you want to be them. It is literally their job to do that.

See also: These are also the chapters who are least likely to pick up sophomores because their classes are mostly freshmen who are known elements from hometowns, school, camp, etc.

I'm not saying do not try again. I'm just saying be honest about your opportunities if you are on the hunt for a certain type or tier of group. You may have diminishing returns with continuing to try a second time.

Okay, this seems like you're stereotyping an entire group of women. It is perfectly okay to drop recruitment because you don't feel connected with the houses you have left. It happens. I personally think you should stick with it, but it happens.
Many girls don't feel a connection with many of the "top" houses because, news flash, they don't always treat PNMs correctly. Its sad.

I dropped out of recruitment my freshman year because I didn't like the houses I had left on preference, and then I proceeded to go through recruitment again as a sophomore. I had an entire year to meet people and try to figure out where I might belong. As a sophomore on preference, I had a house that many consider to be the absolute TOP, and I also had a very middle tier house that I had never heard a single bad thing about. Guess what? I chose the middle tier house.

To say that many of these young women are dropping out of recruitment simply because they didn't get a top house is a little insulting. You're saying that they're that superficial. Its not okay. I know a girl that was cut by bottom tier houses and was devastated even though she had top tier ones left because she really liked it there. I know another girl that out of an absolute top house and an absolute bottom, she chose the bottom house because she felt like she belonged. A lot of girls flat out don't care about tier, and instead more worried about finding their home. And as for the girls that actually are so eat up with tier that they drop out of recruitment, they probably won't respond, change, or be open when people judge them!

So many good girls have a rough time during recruitment at UT. Its normal. Dropping does not mean you are only concerned with tier.

As far as being a sophomore, LITERALLY EVERYONE takes sophomores. It CAN BE an advantage. Every house has a sophomore quota!! It is nothing to worry about!! I'm an active here!! I know!!

DubaiSis 10-08-2017 06:00 PM

Especially at big schools, the process itself can be really overwhelming. And let's say you are one of those totally overwhelmed, you don't know what to think, and you're hearing from what seems like absolutely everyone that you can't possibly pledge THAT house (which could easily be half of the chapters) when you thought they were just fine. In that case I would say, sure, drop. You may find an opportunity as a snap or COB in the fall or the spring, or you can try again next fall and may be better prepared for the crazy.

I guess that is also "not feeling a connection" but in a different way.

NYCMS 10-08-2017 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaGlamorous0 (Post 2444282)
As far as being a sophomore, LITERALLY EVERYONE takes sophomores. It CAN BE an advantage. Every house has a sophomore quota!! It is nothing to worry about!! I'm an active here!! I know!!

As far as dropping out because of "tiers", I know that has happened and still does. And I agree with DubaiSis, some girls drop out because they are overwhelmed by the process at a big school. It's a lot to take in and the pressure can be unbearable.

DubaiSis 10-08-2017 06:36 PM

This thread is about Texas, not Alabama or anywhere else.

Titchou 10-08-2017 06:43 PM

FWIW - Alabama has an upperclass quota. This year it was 10.

NYCMS 10-08-2017 06:43 PM

thanks, Dubai Sis, my bad.

SarahE 10-29-2017 02:42 PM

I've been so busy but I see all of the comments here and wanted to respond now that I actually have a slower weekend!

I feel that I can rush as a sophomore and get a house I want to be in. I don't want to have to deal with a chapter's less popular status and I don't want to force it at a house that's not appealing to me. Some girls force it and it works out fine but other girls force it and they aren't happy, so it just depends on the girl.

For me, I met some really cool girls in specific houses already, so I'm hoping to get one of those houses next year.

I'll go ahead and take the mystery out of things so you know what's what, although rush seems so long ago now and a few chapters are not on my wish list anymore. I get that every UT chapter has smart, attractive girls, I mean that's just UT for you, but at this point, I can honestly say I would love to be associated with Kappa, Theta, Chi O, Alpha Phi or Alpha Chi.

Many girls at UT re-rush well as sophomores; there's no reason for me not to. I'm having fun, meeting lots of people and going to lots of events, so, here's to next year!!

ARKTTKA 10-29-2017 02:54 PM

3, 2, 1 ...

carnation 10-29-2017 02:56 PM

:eek:

FSUZeta 10-29-2017 04:08 PM

Go for it SarahE. We would never tried to dissuade anyone from rushing. However, we will give the facts when someone asks, whether it’s what they want to hear or not.

mullingal 10-29-2017 05:29 PM

I find it interesting that OP had two houses left that she considered to be "lower-tier" (which, at UT, is not an attitude that can be afforded to PNMs) and dropped from recruitment...yet she is already setting herself up for sophomore year with her perceived "top" houses in mind.

Just saying, it's not the best way to go about it.

SarahE 10-29-2017 07:32 PM

You all don't know UT. I can name at least 25 girls who were dropped by certain chapters and got bids to those same chapters as sophomores. I was SO unprepared going in, and not really due to lack of rec letters either. On this website the push is for girls to take any bid received. That works for some girls but for others who aren't as flexible (me!), it's nice to know how UT works. Honestly, living in West Campus has totally opened my eyes to how this all works now.

thetalady 10-29-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahE (Post 2445995)
You all don't know UT. I can name at least 25 girls who were dropped by certain chapters and got bids to those same chapters as sophomores. I was SO unprepared going in, and not really due to lack of rec letters either. On this website the push is for girls to take any bid received. That works for some girls but for others who aren't as flexible (me!), it's nice to know how UT works. Honestly, living in West Campus has totally opened my eyes to how this all works now.

We don't know how rush at UT works? You are seriously wrong about that! Best of luck to you next year in getting a bid from one of your preferred chapters.

AZTheta 10-29-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahE (Post 2445966)
I've been so busy but I see all of the comments here and wanted to respond now that I actually have a slower weekend!

I feel that I can rush as a sophomore and get a house I want to be in. I don't want to have to deal with a chapter's less popular status and I don't want to force it at a house that's not appealing to me. Some girls force it and it works out fine but other girls force it and they aren't happy, so it just depends on the girl.

For me, I met some really cool girls in specific houses already, so I'm hoping to get one of those houses next year.

I'll go ahead and take the mystery out of things so you know what's what, although rush seems so long ago now and a few chapters are not on my wish list anymore. I get that every UT chapter has smart, attractive girls, I mean that's just UT for you, but at this point, I can honestly say I would love to be associated with Kappa, Theta, Chi O, Alpha Phi or Alpha Chi.

Many girls at UT re-rush well as sophomores; there's no reason for me not to. I'm having fun, meeting lots of people and going to lots of events, so, here's to next year!!

Hubris.

carnation 10-29-2017 08:13 PM

maaaajor troll

33girl 10-29-2017 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahE (Post 2445995)
Honestly, living in West Campus has totally opened my eyes to how this all works now.

Oh, okay then, you should be fine. Don't mind us!

IndianaSigKap 10-29-2017 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahE (Post 2445995)
I can name at least 25 girls who were dropped by certain chapters and got bids to those same chapters as sophomores.

What you don't know for sure is whether or not those 25 women had letters of recommendation from highly valued alumnae, or if they had stellar 4.0 GPAs, or if they had some special circumstance such a being a legacy the second time around due to a sister being initiated or a marriage in the family that they did not have the first time around.

I do know for many of the chapters you listed on your wish list, the GPA requirement is often different for sophomores than incoming freshmen. Do not discount that.

I am not saying that you can't or won't have a successful recruitment the second time around, however you will need to be much better prepared for recruitment. Also, do not over emphasize the social relationships you seem to be building. They can help to an extent, but when you have 200+ women voting/ranking PMNs, anything can happen. Expect the worst, hope for the best.

Katmandu 10-30-2017 01:56 PM

Well bless your heart.

ladybug12 10-30-2017 08:58 PM

SarahE, I wish you the best of luck next year...I really do. But, I hope that you will leave all options open and consider a house not on your list if any of your preferred houses today are not an option next year. I may not know all about UT recruitment but I am pretty sure that someone who drops out of recruitment 2 years in a row will have no chance after then.

SWTXBelle 10-31-2017 07:20 AM

Luckily, none of the chapters have a "once dropped, always dropped" rule.

DubaiSis 10-31-2017 04:31 PM

Don't be silly. She knows way more about rush at UT than you do. Including all of the finer points of the girls who rushed a second time, who those girls cut versus cut them and at what point of the previous year's rush they in fact dropped out. And no girl who ever went through rush ever lied about their actual situation. Just like no other girl ever lied about having been a COB pledge into a competitive chapter that happened to find themselves a few gals below total.

And I'm completely devastated that she will never again have to darken the doorstep of my sorority, being that it isn't good enough for her. Because that's how rushing a second time works.

amIblue? 10-31-2017 05:40 PM

Is this chick for real? Lolololololololol

jolene 11-01-2017 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2446094)
Don't be silly. She knows way more about rush at UT than you do. Including all of the finer points of the girls who rushed a second time, who those girls cut versus cut them and at what point of the previous year's rush they in fact dropped out. And no girl who ever went through rush ever lied about their actual situation. Just like no other girl ever lied about having been a COB pledge into a competitive chapter that happened to find themselves a few gals below total.

And I'm completely devastated that she will never again have to darken the doorstep of my sorority, being that it isn't good enough for her. Because that's how rushing a second time works.

https://i.giphy.com/media/gmnPIrsAeTBlK/giphy.webp

*winter* 11-01-2017 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Katmandu (Post 2446026)
Well bless your heart.

I knew it was coming...

ladybug12 11-02-2017 11:26 PM

Many of our posters have 20-30 years experience with recruitment on campuses across the USA. This thread again shows us a PNM who knows more than any of us have experienced on a very competitive campus ...but that is ok. Just let us know your re-rushing goes.

SWTXBelle 11-03-2017 02:53 PM

Having failed at something doesn't mean you are suddenly an expert at anything other than how to fail.


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