Right there with you mom. Good vibes headed her way!

Best wishes to all the PNMs today (and their mothers)! Congratulations to all of the chapter women and their advisors, you survived another year!

can you get an informal recruitment bid if the house cut you during recruitment process? I'm trying to advise my daughter as she isn't sure and I think you need to drop before you get a bid if you want to do informal.

The odds that a house which cut you would turn around and extend you a bid are slim, plus:

Only ONE house does informal - so unless your daughter wants that house, NO.

After a bit of a bumpy Round of 9, where she had a full schedule but lost a couple of contenders (but not favorites), DD got a great list for pref round! We are beyond thankful for that! Her roommate dropped out as did one of her good friends from high school. This system is brutal.

Her two favorites are her first two parties today and her third party is a house she likes well enough:) For an IU Recruitment, we are overjoyed!

And, IndianaSigmaKappa, your info about maximizing your options and getting a QA bid is quite welcome news today! I didn't know that about IU Recruitment:)

IUSK is awesome-truly a Panhellenic spirit!

If you don't get bid, you can participate in informal. HOWEVER, PNMs need to understand those choices are limited and more so at IU. Your odds of getting a bid from a group that dropped you - particularly on the first round - are slim to none no matter what campus you are on.

Advise her to go to the preference parties, take whatever bid she gets, and tell her that she should throw herself into the chapter and run with it. ALL of the sororities at Indiana are great.

I'm sorry to say, but it is far more likely than not that your daughter's chances of getting an informal bid at a house that cut her during recruitment are slim to none.

I have sent you a PM as well.

My daughter has 2 choices as of today. One housed, one unhoused. She likes both groups of girls. Her concern is what the sisterhood is like in an unhoused sorority? That is what she is looking forward to is that family feeling, being with her sisters. Any useful info I can tell her? I hate to have her just put down 1 house after today...
Any info on when/if any of the unhoused will be getting housing?

I am on campus a lot for sporting events and to visit friends who live in town. I have met girls from all of the unhoused chapters and they are great girls. Granted, I know more about ASA because a friend's daughter is a member, but to think their sisterhood suffers without a house is mistaken. They group up together to live in apartments, houses, and dorm rooms. Theta Phi has two or three buildings of an apartment complex near the stadium just for them. I cannot speak as to their future housing plans, but I know that a house does not make for a sisterhood. Your daughter should go where she thinks she will be the happiest.

If she likes both groups of girls and is looking forward to sisterhood, I would urge her as strongly as I could to put both houses down. The unhoused sororities at Indiana don't have a less meaningful sisterhood just because they don't have a house. There is so much more that goes on in a sisterhood besides having a sorority house.

Unhoused chapters are just as involved in sisterhood, leadership, social activities, and activities around campus as housed chapters. I graduated from IU, and I have friends who loved their experiences in their unhoused chapters and would say that their experiences were equally great to the girls in the housed chapters. Not to mention that girls in unhoused sororities can still live together in apartment blocks or houses, which would be very similar to living in a house together.

Many PNMs at Indiana think that they might not get the true sorority experience without having a sorority house, but that is wrong. Sisterhood and a feeling of home don't require a house, and the benefits of that outweigh any physical structure that the chapter may or may not have.

I have a former coworker whose daughter is a TPA and loves it. Their sisterhood is amazing.

As for the women that are dropping, I am sitting with the the rho gammas during the parties. I've asked them about the girls dropping. Almost all of them have said that the girls that dropped had invitations back. They had chapters that wanted them back. But they are still chosing to drop without even giving the chapters a chance.

^Yes, that is what I have seen as well. They had 2-3 houses back that they didn't like and then dropped altogether.

So - just to clarify for my DD who is about to turn in her card to her rho gam...

If she maximizes her options with the three chapters she went to today, she is guaranteed a bid from one of them on Tuesday? I just don't want to tell her that and have her disappointed! And, if that's true, than good for IU for taking that step!

That is what women have been told by their Rho Gams.

I have sat with chapter reps in a Panhellenic room when they got their daily results back--i.e., when they could see how many girls wanted to come back to them. This was back when PNMs could cut chapters.

For several chapters, it was devastating. Watching their hopeful faces as they opened their envelopes, especially if they had put a major effort into their rush, and then...:(

I had DD ask her rho gam about the guaranteed bid using QA and she said that was not the case. So, not sure what is true - she could be misinformed!

Despite what may or may not be true, please allow your daughter to list the chapters she likes.

If she absolutely positively cannot see herself in one of the three she has (but you mentioned she worked hard at keeping an open mind) then allow her to list only two. That will reduce her chances at getting a bid by one-third, but she will be happier in the end if she doesn't have to run on bid day to a chapter she does not want.

She did list all three - absolutely!

Fortunately for her, two were her favorites all along and one is a chapter she would be comfortable with. It was more to tell her she could let down her guard a little. It has been an overwhelmingly stressful 10 days and if she knew she had done her job and something good was coming, I think it would help.

Both her roommate and another friend dropped today (didn't like the 2 houses they got back) so it's been a roller coaster for her from joy with her list to sadness for the decision they chose to make.

So much anxiety, stress and emotion!

Doesn't having one semester of school (including good grades) prior to Winter Recruitment also have a positive impact on IU's sorority membership retention rates?

Tonight is bid night. So excited for my women! Hopefully it is Good News Tuesday for all of the PNMs that stuck with the process and kept an open mind!

Timing?
 

Anyone have information on the timing of today? I was told those with no bids would get phone calls? How about those who do receive bids... out of state and going crazy waiting!

I haven't heard of a specific time? DD's rho gam just said she would be in the dorm to tell them whether they had a bid or not sometime this evening.

From what I understand, if they don't get a phone call, then they are to report to the tennis center on Fee Lane at I believe 7pm. They will have Rho Gamma reveal and then they will all receive their bid cards and open them all together.

I'm so glad they have gone to a reveal like this! In my opinion it's much better than they way they have done it recently!

Is there a timeline for the calls? Such as by 1pm?

I heard they would hear about 5pm, sooner if they didn't receive a bid.

this is killing me
 

so if someone puts down 2 houses for final ranking and they dont get a bid from house A does the computer go to their house b and if they ranked between 1-55 on house B's list then they get a bid from house B ?

I cant wait another few hours I dont know how my DD is doing if Im so nervous !!!!

Right there with ALL the other IU Mom's!

I so remember this day a few years ago when my daughter was going through recruitment. It is nerve racking and then exciting!

Yes, I believe this is how it works. The computer tries to match you with your first house. If that doesn't work, it moves on to the next house.

Ugh. I feel sick waiting.

DD said her rho gam is coming at 5:30 to tell them if they get a bid or not. That she "has" to tell them yes or no in person.

Ugh.

Longtime lurker and mom of a DD who survived the awful snowy IU recruitment of 2014. Reading all of these posts has brought back a lot of memories...I just want to share my daughter's story in the hopes that it might help you to have the right words for your girl tonight. I was able to have them 3 years ago thanks to the wisdom of the women on this site so I'm passing it on.

My DD got a bid from her third choice in a perceived "lower" tier house - yes, she had three to pref and I know it's lucky but to her at that moment it was the end of the world. Thanks to all of you, I had the words to tell her. That this house saw in her something the others didn't - they saw her as a sister. That it was a good thing her house took so many new PNM's- they were giving more girls a chance to be Greek. Like it or not, tiers play a huge part in IU recruitment and to me, that's as big of a problem as bed rush. The tiers determine pairs for parties, HC, Little 5 and more and they determine the reputation of a house on campus. And to young impressionable 18-year-olds wanting to belong, tiers become over-inflated.

Fast forward to today...my daughter is a senior in her house and lives with 10 of her sisters. She couldn't imagine having been anywhere else and has made lifelong friends. She was so worked up over her lower tier bid that she almost didn't accept it...that would have changed her entire experience at IU. I encouraged her to give it a shot...that it was her chance to be Greek and she went the first night. She wasn't sure, but she went back and back again and again and here we are today. Over the moon with her house, sisters and so sad that it's coming to and end.

I wish you all the best news tonight - hang in there, moms!

Awe, this is such a wonderful story and I echo this 100%. My girl also accepted a bid to a so called "lower tier" sorority and it has never once bothered her. She found her home and has been a very active participant and works very hard. She has made friends with many girls and several whom she now lives with. She will be a bridesmaid in one of their weddings in June. She can't imagine herself in any other house. They have to sometimes learn things aren't always what they seem or how they are perceived. I hope there are many happy young ladies celebrating tonight!! ;)

Hang in there IU Moms! It's almost over!! Sending you all virtual glasses of wine!!

Thanks!

Got confirmation at 5:30 from her rho gam that she will, indeed, receive a bid tonight! Fingers crossed that it's from one of her two favorites!

yay! happy news!

Happy for you IUMomma and for your daughter as well--now you'll sleep better and be able to relax! Maybe you can find a source to send her a t-shirt or jersey with her new letters or maybe a bouquet of her sorority flowers.

Hoping everyone gets a bid! Hang in there, moms!

Quick question...assuming this is the new order of things that the RhoGams tell the girls if they received a bid or not so that they know to go to the tennis center? just trying to see how it works as I have another daughter possibly going to IU next year.

My daughter heard from her Rho Gamma that she has a bid! Just waiting for it to be official in her hand! Not sure why they are doing it that way but ... relief!