Listen to yourself! Likening "Sorority Life" to a news report or a tape made by terrorists is just plain ludicrous! There's a HUGE difference between the Daniel Pearl tapes and silly show on MTV. I maintain that if a person does not have the intelligence to realize that not everything on TV, most especially MTV, is real, you wouldn't want them in your organization.

Give the PNMs a little more credit. If they're smart enough to get into college, they're smart enough to know that they should take "Sorority Life" with a rather large grain of salt.

Can't we agree to disagree? Seriously, we're beating a dead horse....

Blaire

Ain't that the truth!

:confused:

I THINK I get the point you are trying to make when you say this. Unfortunatley it was sort of over shadowed by the masses of paragraphs before and after. I am not the one on here bashing Sigma til I am blue in the face. Nor am I being catty just for the sake of being catty...oops, "venting."

Lady Pi Phi, I thought that was a very interesting point. However, I think as far as my posts go...I have been more about trying to suggest solutions and damage control than bashing anyone. Unfortunately that has gone largely ignored in the face of more "entertaining" posts.

P.S. Some of the analogies I have read have been just plain ridicuolous. Sigh.

haha - thanks . . . but have you ever known me to misspell words very frequently, dude? That was a reference to this:

I thought the irony was beautiful, so I, like, totally tried to carry it on, and stuff . . . I'm sure others will appreciate the correction though - that might be the most misspelled word here on Greekchat, so no offense intended to you directly, phisigsigchic.

uh gee i didn't know some GCers worked as spell checks. ever heard that when one is typing fast, mistakes are made? Geez....
As for everyone else, blaire is right, we are beating a dead horse. All of you sigma lovers out there have to stop being "CATTY" about the people who don't like sigma and the people who don't like sigma, we could go and vent through private messages instead. Cuz damn this is getting way to much outta hand already.

KSig,

I got your joke, which helped with mine :)

phisigchic, no offense, but it was only a joke dear :)

Sarcasm, no. Observation, yes.
 

Darn, I thought this was a message board in which one could post their thoughts whether it bashing, giving pity, or recognizing the irony/contradiction/hypocrisy of others.

I think you should take your own advice and lay off the sarcasm yourself. YOU wouldn't want the Tri-P's to come after you for not allowing "poor AXO Alum" to state her thoughts and defend her right to belittle others over and over again.

If they didn't watch it they wouldn't have anything to complain about and therefore nothing to do with themselves. :rolleyes:

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If anyone is beating a dead horse... good lord, stick to the topic at hand and get over it. I am.

Haven't we all had to work three times as hard to get new recruits? Even before the show started? I mean we sit and complain about this silly show when new members close to home are OD'ing on alcohol. I would assume that would have a greater affect on greek life than "Sorority Life." And if you are proud of your organization like I am, then stop telling everyone on GC that you are proud. Go out and show it.
I really don't appreciate the Charlie Manson comparisons. talk about a snowball argument. But alas you are entitled to your opinions and I am entitled to mine. In no way do I disrespect them, I just think you are missing the big picture. The show has been filmed. It's on TV, girls and guys are watching it. There is really nothing you can do. Just do what you always do. Go on living your life because Sorority Life isn't going away. Sitting here and having a bad attitude about the sigma anit-bashers isn't going to help you.

Geez... I go to sleep and the thread gets twenty more posts.

I'll will sign off on this thought: Ever realize that when you are kicking someone when they are down, you are actually just kicking your own ass?

whoa - maybe I really am learning-distabled . . . haha

Re: Sarcasm, no. Observation, yes.
 

HA!!

oh good lord! I think its time everyone took a second to realize that they may be offened and they may have offened someone else and that life will go on. Mistake are made ALL THE TIME and the consequences of those mistakes can affect more people then the one who made the mistake may realize. But everyday people get over these mistakes and their consequences and life continues, maybe not the excat same as before, but it continues none the less. So everyone take a big deep breath and relax, we'll all be ok. and who knows maybe we've all learned something that will be useful in the future. I know i have.


P.S. Can the GC spell check go over this :D i know i suck at spelling. Thanks bunches

i am not even touching this post librasoul, except to say that maybe you should take your own advice. ;) Notice no one is even bashing sigma anymore anyway.

meeeooooowwwwww!!!! *scratches*
ALL you CHICKS quit the bitchin'! ;):D

PS I can predict the future. I sense 10 paragraph long lecture coming ahead. LOL!

Okay - I WASN'T comparing the Sigmas to EITHER -- I WAS comparing the previous posts about "not saying something nice...." and "don't judge till you walk in their shoes..." -- I was simply pointing out that when people try to SUGARCOAT things that they need to realize that you can try to sugarcoat ANYTHING in this world.

Observant1:
Darn, I thought this was a message board in which one could post their thoughts whether it bashing, giving pity, or recognizing the irony/contradiction/hypocrisy of others.

Didn't you learn yet that only *certain* people are allowed to have *certain* opinions on here -- geez...that was the whole point of WHY the thread was started. It was started to show that only *ONE* opinion can be offered. And thanks for reminding me that I didn't have the requisite pity party poo-poo in my post. I will try to add more as I go along... ;)

RockChalk:
"Listen to yourself! Likening "Sorority Life" to a news report or a tape made by terrorists is just plain ludicrous! There's a HUGE difference between the Daniel Pearl tapes and silly show on MTV. I maintain that if a person does not have the intelligence to realize that not everything on TV, most especially MTV, is real, you wouldn't want them in your organization."

I do listen to myself -- and all the other voices -- oops, guess that isn't nice since I could possibly be making fun of people with schizophrenia.... As for your opinion on this -- you are right. WHY on earth would ANY form of MEDIA offer their own twist on things?Why I guess that that means EVERY form of news on TV is automatically filed in the "believe it" category while any other program is in the "don't believe it" category. Anyone remember the stories about when the Orson Wells book was read on the radio and people ACTUALLY jumped out of windows to their deaths because they thought this stuff was really going to happen? Guess that they were all stupid -- or, let's keep sugarcoating "lacking the intelligence to realize that it wasn't real" -- the POINT is that everyone believes stuff that they see on television - whether its a murder investigation on the news or a silly commercial that makes people ACTUALLY think they can lose 2 dress sizes in 48 hours by drinking "magic juice". Television will always have a slant to what side of the story you are seeing. Remember - there are always three sides to EVERY story - side A, side B, and the TRUTH!

ChiDeltJen - I just seriously wondered how your female professors handled your calling all people "chicks" -- I'm sorry that you made the blanket statement. I just wondered how that went over with them. If you'll notice, I keep referring to people by the names they use in their posts -- not chicks, dicks, or silly rabbit tricks.

Oh...you don't APPRECIATE the Charles Manson comments...okay then, pick up your toys and go home. :p I only got involved in this whole thread because I don't APPRECIATE the stereotypes that the Sigmas have given all greeks. But apparantly that wasn't the "correct" opinion of the day. Maybe tomorrow...

{Insert required amount of pity here -- ohh poor Sigmas, ohhh poor misinformed girls...oh poor girl who was allegedly conspired against for smacking the crap out of her pledge sister when it really wasn't her fault because for all we know it was resolved when the editing was done with hedge clippers and her momma and daddy walked 2 miles to school up hill both ways with no shoes in the snow....}

Thanks for clarifying that.

- yea - i'm getting bashed

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Bring it on!! :D :D

seriously no one is even saying ANYTHING about the sigma anymore. all the people defending them to the death are the ones that are beating the dead horse now. half the time people don't even say anything bad, they are just discussing what happened in the episode, etc. damn seems that no matter what you write, even when your just trying to be peaceful, everyone has to jump down your throat about it

ROFLMAO!! Girl, you are too much!! :D :p

just gotta say: AXO alum your hilarious!!! :D

Seriously, this had turned into a three ring circus. Star Turtle started this thread by stating her opnion. She didn't name any names or call anyone out...she just wrote what was on her mind. Just like everyone else. Now its become counterproductive. Life is way too short to get all worked up over a television show that is obvioulsy edited to show the "juciy stuff". Like I've said before, let's just agree to disagree.

Blaire

Get over it. Self-righteous much? "Only MY opinion gets picked on!!" Who is having the pity party now?

It is FINE to voice an opinion. It is even FINE to vent. I think problems come in when you are decidely NOT doing either, but posting catty, whiny comments. You can do it, but when other people call you on it, don't be surprised.

By the way, no one has mentioned Sigma in quite a while, get off the "We aren't bashing Sigma" pedestal. Ooops! That's right! AXO Alum only mentions Sigma in almost EVERY post...phisigchic, reference the post that ChiOJenn quoted, in bold.

I think NOW people have issues with the personal attacks you all are making, and all the high-fiving over the snide remarks isn't helping.

As for following my own advice? Which the advice about actually DOING something rather than complaining? Ummm....check. Or would that be the advice about perpetuating stereotypes? Because as far as I am concerned any comment I have made on here, up until now, has been proactive, rather than personal. If you are going to tell me to "follow my own advice," at least elaborate.

Nice call. But honestly... this has become a mecca for everyone to bash each other. so much for greek unity.

AXOalum: FYI, I DON'T call my professors chicks. You have seriously gone way overboard with this. I slip one measly slang into my post and you take it and run the completely opposite direction with it. for the last time:GET OVER IT! I'm sorry if I offended you and your womanhood... but I would think someone of your stature could only see it as a slip of the tongue and be more classy about it instead of blowing it up into a big deal.

For the rest of you: IT'S A TV SHOW!!!!! The more any of you criticize the sigmas, each other, whatever, you are only making yourself look bad.

Nobody is gonna agree on one thing so just stop trying to make everyone think your opinion is better. It's pointless to try. So throw your oversized egos in the closet and move on with your life.

Basically, you say that we should stop the sigma bashing and that it is wrong because they are fellow greeks. well hello you are bashing everyone else who dares to mention they might not like the show. these are your fellow greeks too. seriously girl you need to lighten up because as far as I can see, all your posts are angry and defensive. so can we all just agree to disagree as blaire has said and just get over this? (yea i know i am just asking for a HUGE response back here) well whatever i am just tired of the arguing. its just another dumb mtv show that makes for a good laugh on monday nights.

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Thanks for answering. :) I could attend chapter events except chapter meetings. Once I actually attended a chapter meeting, I longed for the days when I couldn't. ;) It was very long.

Okay, I don't think this post was directed toward me, but I am going to address the issues raised.

No one is "bashing" you guys. We are simply bringing to light another side of the argument, which caused SOME people to absolutely BLAST certain posters on a personal level.

Now before anyone says that they, too, were simply bringing a point to the table (i.e. Sigmas have cast all Greeks in a negative light), nope, don't buy it. Why? Because that is absolutely NOT what happened. Maybe that statement WAS made, but it was buried in between the gripes about new member's makeup no-no's and other comments that were downright catty. Most of these comments were not only directed toward the guilty parties (i.e. Candace and Jordan), but onto the ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE. I think that this is the problem. Then when someone speaks up and says, simply, that the over-generalization was not called for, people absolutely BLOW things out of proportion and start getting tres defensive. Phisigchic...please stop reveling in that same old mantra. Your argument holds no merit because it supports exactly what you are arguing AGAINST! We can absolutely get over this, I am all for it. But before we do, I think one of your own comments speaks volumes...

Really? Would NEVER have guessed that by all of the posts that were SURE that this show was going to cause the death of the Greek system as we know it.

oh good god! .....are we done yet? no? hummm...damn! well then i have a poll for ya'll


What should be done about this thread???

a) keep it up.....its a nice way to relive anger after a long day
b) get rid of the damn thing (also known as deleting it)
c) kick the horse, oh dead horse, as long and much as possible
d) continue to read this thread....but only if there is a gun to my head ( no offense to ANYONE ment by this option. it itsn't a reference to anything :D)


Let us all know what ya think? wait nm, i think we all can see what happens when an opinion is voiced...hummmm maybe this post wasn't such a good idea......oh well i guess ill delete it if it causes too much crap



P.S. Spell Check Please :D

I CANT WAIT TILL THIS SHOW IS OVER!

Interesting
 

Interesting, I'm just wondering about something. I believe just a while ago an article came out in regards to a certain sorority. Yet it was not a nice thing to talk about said sorority. But SAEPi simply doesn't have the pull that they have I suppose, and freedom of speech is guaranteed when making remarks in regards to them. Perhaps they should recruit the wahine chick (ooooh I used chick)...she's got SPUNK!

-Rudey
--I smell a riot coming on

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I have to say it again, Rudey does have a very valid point. You can post all day long how stupid and bitch and fake SAEPi is and the moderaters dont seem to mind, but you mention something about a "real" sorority and that shit doesnt live to see it's first sunset.

Well then you're in the wrong thread.....
 

Yeah, I picked up on it. However, it seems that you haven't and you've been here longer than me. ;)

People, common sense makes this very plain and simple. This thread is about "ENOUGH OF THE SIGMA BASHING". If you are perfectly fine with making bitchy comments every episode then go to one of the NUMEROUS bitchy threads and pay no mind to this one. If people want to stick up for them, then let them. Obviously, many of you bashers are offended by what was said and you know that to a degree you are being petty. If you didn't feel some sort of way about it, this thread wouldn't be so long.

There are too many to count threads about the "Sorority Life" show with different titles. This thread was started because someone recognized the pettiness going on and it turned into another negative thread. It’s sad that some greeks thrive on the negativity and yearn to continue it. This is the image that you guys need to be worried about considering there are people besides greeks that frequent these boards.

ok librasoul and observant1 you guys need to CHILL already. because all we are trying to do is get everyone just to stop arguing about the show and to just forget about this thread already. and all you guys keep doing is BASHING us. and I for one am getting really tired of it. I am sure the other Greeks are too. (yea I know I am just asking for trouble, but I just couldn't take it anymore).

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I second that. However, I wouldn't say it's the moderators. It has more to do with some of the people in the "real" sororities. If someone dares to say something negative about them, they are quick to request deletion of the thread. Now, when they get the chance to lay the dirt on someone else the delete petitioners are out to lunch.

Irony again- Stop BASHING ME
 

Well it doesn't help that you keep on posting either does it? :confused:

Maybe you may want to take a trip to the CHILL box with us. ;)

now come on, do we need to start a local vs. national debate?????

OMG....they really are never going to stop are they? :rolleyes:

ROFLMAO!! Can I choose "C"?? :D :p

Try this:
(this is how discussions are supposed to go - maybe it's civilized b/c there are some from that org here to defend themselves?)

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...5&pagenumber=1

Now here's the redux . . . minus the original post:
(not quite as well-discussed, at least at the beginning - toward the end it gets civil again)

http://greekchat.com/gcforums/showth...threadid=21350

Can we move more toward these kind of discussions, on every level, and not just when it involves one of our orgs? Or am I totally off the mark here?