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ivysis 06-29-2002 01:05 AM

getting back on topic
 
In order to get us back on topic I am going to repost this. Yippee. I think it was the last question asked and answered. Hope this helps.

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Not only do you have underground groups, there are whole campuses that are in the middle- they don't officially recognize their Greeks, but also don't persecute them- they just ignore them completely and let them do what they like. Colorado is like that to a degree, I believe- anyone from Boulder out there who can help me out on that?
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I am from Boulder. It is kind of like that, but I am not sure entirely what you are stating. We are not allowed to put the University's name on anything, so we just put Boulder, CO. For example on Greek Week shirts it would be more like:

Greek Weed 2002
Boulder, CO
(instead of University of Colorado)

Does this help? The University doesnt exactly care for us, but they havent forced us underground. They almost wouldnt support recruitment this year though. We changed the dates so now it is university supported. If it were not we would not be able to send out mailers informing of recruitment, have an orientation table and representatives, or anything like that (I think, not 100% sure...I graduated this may so Im outta the loop now.)

Forito Baroulko 06-29-2002 01:33 AM

how come all these sororities and fraternities getting kicked out?

pbpck 06-29-2002 01:34 AM

Sorry everyone for getting us off topic. UF_Pike, I have PMed you.

dzrose93 06-29-2002 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Forito Baroulko
how come all these sororities and fraternities getting kicked out?
A lot of them aren't "kicked out", Forito. Sometimes, especially in the case of sororities, chapters will close due to low membership -- not because they've done anything wrong or because the school doesn't want them there. Our National HQ will work with every chapter to help them stay on campus, but sometimes closing the chapter down and recolonizing later is the best way to go.

Other chapters are closed for a variety of reasons but it usually boils down to the fact that members have, in some way, violated campus or headquarter policies. Sometimes the members' grades aren't meeting the campus regulations, sometimes they have unauthorized parties... it can really be for a lot of reasons.

Kevin 06-29-2002 10:03 AM

Forito, the intent of shutting down defunct chapters whether it is the university or their HQ's is to maintain the great experience of Greek Life. We've seen it too often that one bad apple can spoil the barrell. If one fraternity does something the general public thinks that's how we all are.

SigmaChiCard 07-01-2002 11:56 AM

UF_PIKE
 
HAHA

You're SO cool.

OnePlus69Is70 07-01-2002 12:19 PM

I can't imagine a sorority being closed for anything besides low membership, and I have trouble even figuring out how that would happen. NPC recruitment scares the crap out of me- it's ruthlessly efficient, and it works perfectly everywhere I've seen it.

Fraternities on the other hand get closed for such a wide variety of reasons....I sometimes wonder if the women don't have it right, and that the fraternity nationals ought to step in and make things uniform, and really clamp down a lot better. I have trouble believing there's something inherent in men that makes them more likely to act like idiots.

DeltaSigStan 07-23-2003 11:11 AM

I don't wanna bump this because of the hijacking of earlier, but hopefully it won't escalate again.

I just thought I'd refresh this since Lambda CHi is coming back after a 8/9 yr abscence.

CC1GC 07-23-2003 01:49 PM

In ottawa, in the past 3 yrs there have been a few fraternities/sororities leave due to low numbers. Because the university treats glos like clubs, e.g., we're not regulated, it's really up to the chapter to make it sink or float. Never will you see an organization close because of risk man't infractions. But being at a school with 1% greek representation, it's difficult enough just to survive.

FAB*SpiceySpice 07-23-2003 02:15 PM

Well let me think here...

I know in the past ten years two sororities have recolonized (Alpha Phi and Phi Mu) and no other chapters have been closed, so we now have a total of 14 NPC sororities. That is my knowledge anyway, but I could be wrong.

As for fraternities...well, Sigma Chi got their charter pulled last year due to extremely bad hazing, it was so sad b/c that was a chapter that had been on this campus for decades. :( (It was also the same chapter that Brad Pitt was a member of ;) )

ANYWAY, this year we gained Acacia, Lambda Chi (who is living in Sig Chi's house for the next four years), and Sigma Tau Gamma. Lambda Chi was here in the early 90's but after an alcohol violation their charter was pulled and now we (Phi Mu) live in their old house which was originally ours anyway. Confusing stuff. :) Delta Sigma Phi also lost their charter but they got it back in the fall of 2001 and they're now a pretty good chapter, kind of small, but they are awesome at philanthropies they always seem to win everyones! :)

I know that we used to have a TKE chapter, a Pi Kapp chapter, and maybe something else b/c their banners all still hang in the rec center, but they've been gone for as long as I've been here. :)

Rose&WhiteGirl 07-23-2003 02:35 PM

Chapters that Have come and Gone @ Purdue...

hmmmmmmmm...i think Theta Xi is the only fraternity to get the boot (recently) that i can remember. They got in trouble for hazing.

Sororities:
ADPi- folded due to # in like 1978
AEPhi- folded around the same time for the same reasons
AXiD- folded and then came back two years ago
AOPi- just folded this year but will be back soon!


Im sure that there are other chapters that have folded and then come back,but im not down that gossip.

GeekyPenguin 07-23-2003 02:41 PM

Groups lost at UW-Platteville

Sororities
Theta Phi Alpha (on campus for a while, closed, tried to recolonize but didn't get a lot of support going and left)
Delta Gamma Phi (local that everybody called DG, leading us to think there was actually a DG)
Kappa Alpha Phi (local)

One of the locals that still exists is rumoured to have petitioned Theta and been turned down, we're not sure.

Fraternities
Delta Upsilon (they were a huge chapter for a while, I don't know what happened)
Alpha Phi Omega (allegedly they are still on campus but nobody has ever heard a thing about them, they used to live in what is now the SigEp house)
an NPHC org - I am honestly not sure which one
Sigma Tau Gamma (they are on probation/closed for a year, as of May. I haven't heard an update)
Several locals

At Marquette the only chapter I know of that was lost is Gamma Phi Beta, which closed in the 90s due to numbers.

GMUBunny 07-23-2003 02:43 PM

I believe Sigma Kappa was established and folded in the same year at GMU back in the 70s. I heard from one of my greek life nerd friends that there used to be a chapter of Beta but I'm not sure when they left or for what reason (our greek system isn't the strongest in the world). Phi Mu folded over Christmas break my freshman year, which stunk because I was really interested in them. Phi Kappa Sigma (simply known on campus as the Skulls) had their charter revoked for financial reasons and I believe their house was condemned, but don't take my words as the bible. My own chapter was in danger of closing when I pledged, but we were never told that. Of course, my pledge class was the largest in years for informal recruitment (13) so our chapter is thriving again. We ain't goin NOWHERE! :D

LXAAlum 07-23-2003 02:52 PM

Re: Expelled/Went Dormant and haven't returned
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Beta Theta Pi and TKE were kicked out in Fall 2000 (though TKE still operates), and Kappa Sigma was kicked out this spring.

Lambda Chi and Beta are recolonizing. So I asked myself another question:

Who's gotten kicked out or went dormant and haven't returned in a while?


LXA closed in 1995 I think for risk management/hazing issues. Glad to see they're coming back. They were a lot of fun to hang out with, and a good escape for me when I was in the Navy in San Diego back in the late 80's - they took good care of me, and I enjoyed being able to get away from the military life every now and again. Besides, SDSU was a fun campus as well - good cheap concerts and food to be found.

LXA "policy" is to remain dormant for at least five years before returning to campus, and priority for new colonies is given to schools were LXA had a previous chapter or colony.

However, the five years is flexible, depending on many conditions including overall campus, greek life, and other factors - case in point is UNC (Northern Colorado) - five years was the original plan, but it took 11 total to return due to a span of 4-5 years when greek life was abyssmal - they waited until conditions improved.

Colorado State may recolonize next year or 2005, prior to the 5 year span, due to alumni conditions, and a dynamically changing greek system - lots of improvement going on. Remains to be seen, though.

LXAAlum 07-23-2003 02:56 PM

Chapters lost at Colorado State since 1992:

Alpha Phi
Sigma Kappa
Delta Gamma (colony failed)
Alpha Chi Omega

Alpha Tau Omega
Sigma Nu
Lambda Chi Alpha
Pi Kappa Phi (has since returned)
Beta Theta Pi
FIJI
Phi Kappa Tau
Sigma Phi Epsilon (recolonized)
TKE (recolonized)

There might be one or two more - I think another sorority colony failed in addition to DG, but I can't remember who it was.

CSU's President was very anti-Greek (as you can tell by the long list of org's closed), but just recently retired, and I know there are several colonizations coming soon (Beta and FIJI are rumored, LXA in a couple of years).

phigamucsb 07-23-2003 02:57 PM

At University of California-Santa Barbara:

Fraternities:(All of these chapters have yet to recolonize)
SAE
Phi Kappa Psi
Phi Delta Theta
Delta Upsilon
Delta Tau Delta
Kappa Sigma
Delta Sigma Phi
Sigma Pi
ZBT
Alpha Delta Phi

Sororities:
Alpha Gamma Delta
Chi Omega
Delta Zeta
Kappa Delta

LXAAlum 07-23-2003 02:59 PM

Chapter's lost at Northern Colorado in last 12 years:

Alpha Kappa Lambda (since recolonized)
Lambda Chi Alpha (since recolonized, ready to charter!)
Delta Sigma Phi
Sigma Chi (rumored to have just closed - can anyone confirm?)
Theta Xi (failed colony)
Sigma Phi Epsilon (closed, recolonized, closed again)

Alpha Xi Delta

Here's the GOOD news: NEW Colonies at UNC in the last two years:

Lambda Chi Alpha
Kappa Sigma
Kappa Alpha Order

Alpha Omicron Pi

MattUMASSD 07-23-2003 03:08 PM

Beta Theta Pi colony - left in 2000, they were very unorganized from what I heard.

TKE - died out in the 70's and was recolonized in the mid 80's. Died out in erly 90's and now we are trying to bring ti back.

EM1843 07-23-2003 03:10 PM

Ok...I'll try to stand up for UF here and make a some what intelligent post...
From everything I can gather here are the orgs that have been kicked off/closed/etc and what reasons I have found for the last 10 or so years...

Fraternities
Pi Lamb was closed for a few years and has rechartered.
Kappa Sigma closed in the 70's and have recently rechartered.
Pike closed in the early 90's for hazing and have rechartered.
TKE closed due to membership after a long fight to stay open.
Chi Phi was suspended for risk management followed by being kicked off after they returned a year later for risk management and hazing.
Delta Chi was closed for risk managment and legal problems was rechartered and reclosed for hazing.
Beta had a semester long suspension for hazing/risk management.
Sigma Nu closed due to memebership.

Sororities
AZD closed due to membership.
Sigma Kappa was closed in the 80's and has rechartered.

That is all I can remeber off the top of my head. Most of these have taken place in the 2 years I've been at UF, so I'm sure there are more. UF's greeks come and go so fast that UF's online maps dont even have some of the orgs in their correct houses...

Canadian AOII 07-23-2003 03:53 PM

At Western, GLO's are not recognized by the school so whatever groups have become inactive must have closed for their own reasons:

Sororities: none inactive! yay!

Fraternities:

ACACIA - Western Ontario (1985-2000)
Delta Tau Delta - Theta Alpha (1987-2001)[ I don't know if they ever actually closed at any pt b/c they're still active now]
Zeta Beta Tau - Zeta Eta (1991-1994)
Sigma Alpha Epsilon - Ontario Alpha, 1990-2003[last I checked they were around too but maybe they aren't open in 2004?] :confused:
Sigma Pi - Zeta Iota (1985-2000)


*all info from canadiangreeks.com

sairose 07-23-2003 05:17 PM

I go to Arkansas State University. These are the ones that have closed here:

Fraternities:
Sigma Phi Epsilon, either 2001 or 2002, for hazing
Kappa Kappa Psi--I've heard different stories...but don't know the truth. They left in I think 98 or 99

Sororities:
Kappa Delta
Zeta Tau Alpha
Don't know when these two left; I've heard it was because of low numbers, but not sure. Anyone know?

Firehouse 07-23-2003 06:56 PM

To: EM1843 Re UF
 
I'm sorry to hear that Sigma Nu went under for numbers and I find that incredibly hard to believe. I'm a Pike from FSU but I know a lot about the Sigma Nus at UF. There aren't many fraternities with their history and tradition, and wealthy alumni. I know when their house burned the alumni built a new one on University. They destroyed that one and lost it, so the alumni built another one just off the Row. Now they're gone again?! Senator Bob Graham was a Sigma Nu there, and at one time they had well over 200 undergraduate members. Who the hell was minding the store? How can they possibly throw that legacy away? Sorry...It's just so wasteful. Ninety percent of the fraternity chapters in America would kill to have what the UFSigma Nus had in their arsenal. How is it possible to put out that many outstanding men for fifty or more years and fail to keep the fire going, especially on a great Greek campus like UF. I'm staggered.

FuzzieAlum 07-23-2003 07:08 PM

It happens. A very strong fraternity on my campus - the largest, in fact - went down to one-third that size in about a year. Now they didn't fold, but they did end up selling their house. They are slowly rebuilding.

What can happen? One or two bad members. A poorly executed rush. A problem inside the chapter too serious for the national organization to allow to continue.

Rio_Kohitsuji 07-23-2003 10:18 PM

At good ole Rio Grande we have had these soro's go...:

Phi Sigma Sigma (now a local Chi Omega Alpha)
Alpha Sigma Tau (now a local also, Zeta Theta Chi)

Locals that died out..well..hmm...

Pi Sigma (fraternity)
Alpha Mu Beta - soro, will only have 1 member on campus next semester, and another active is turning in her letters to go to another local.

Other than that, it's all a mystery.

DolphinChicaDDD 07-23-2003 10:52 PM

Lets see, at Stockton College, NJ

Frats (that I know of):
Zeta Beta Tau- but they are still around and kicking. last i heard from a guy in my building that they are comming back...
Kappa Delta Rho- lost their chater sometime in the late 80's/early 90's. tried to recolonize last semester, but there wasn't much interest to bring another frat on campus.

Sororities:
not too sure here. i know that D Phi E is never going to be back on campus, they lost their charter twice .when we expanded the administration told us anyone one not on campus but them

sugar and spice 07-23-2003 11:20 PM

At the University of Wisconsin, I'm pretty sure that at various points we had Phi Mu, DZ, KD, Sigma Kappa, Alpha Xi Delta, Alpha Omicron Pi, Alpha Gamma Delta, ADPi, and possibly Theta Phi Alpha. Most of those have been gone since the 60s or so. AGD and AXiD were the last to go (both closed in the 80s, I think). I don't know why most of these closed down, but I think the majority of them were for numbers.

With the exception of Sigma Delta Tau, all the sororities currently at the UW have been continuously open since the 1920s or earlier. Most of them have been open since before 1900.

I'd have to do some more research on the fraternities, but I'm pretty sure we had Phi Gamma Delta up until the early 90s, when they were closed for hazing.

CC1GC 07-24-2003 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Canadian AOII

Fraternities:

ACACIA - Western Ontario (1985-2000)
Delta Tau Delta - Theta Alpha (1987-2001)[ I don't know if they ever actually closed at any pt b/c they're still active now]
Zeta Beta Tau - Zeta Eta (1991-1994)
Sigma Alpha Epsilon - Ontario Alpha, 1990-2003[last I checked they were around too but maybe they aren't open in 2004?] :confused:
Sigma Pi - Zeta Iota (1985-2000)


So SAE is gone? Oh man, i knew they had problems but didn't think it would lead to this...I went to leadership school with those boys last yr.

Kristin AGD 07-24-2003 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sugar and spice
At the University of Wisconsin, I'm pretty sure that at various points we had Phi Mu, DZ, KD, Sigma Kappa, Alpha Xi Delta, Alpha Omicron Pi, Alpha Gamma Delta, ADPi, and possibly Theta Phi Alpha. Most of those have been gone since the 60s or so. AGD and AXiD were the last to go (both closed in the 80s, I think). I don't know why most of these closed down, but I think the majority of them were for numbers.

With the exception of Sigma Delta Tau, all the sororities currently at the UW have been continuously open since the 1920s or earlier. Most of them have been open since before 1900.

I'd have to do some more research on the fraternities, but I'm pretty sure we had Phi Gamma Delta up until the early 90s, when they were closed for hazing.

Wisconsin was our Beta Chapter. It was established in June 1905. Not sure when that chapter went inactive. Hopefully someday Alpha Gam will return. :)

Sigma Sage 07-24-2003 11:46 AM

Sigma Pi at FSU
 
Does anyone know when and why Sigma Pi was kicked off at Florida State?

AchtungBaby80 07-24-2003 12:06 PM

UK had quite a few fraternities leave, including TKE, Beta Theta Pi, Theta Chi, and SAE. The SAE's came back (I'm sure having one of their alums build a multi-million-dollar library for the school helped their case quite a bit) and so did Phi Delta Theta. The rest haven't so far.

We also used to have chapters of Phi Sigma Sigma and Zeta Tau Alpha. I think there are more that left, but I can't think of them right off the bat.

All this was before my time; I only know about them from looking at old scrapbooks I found in the basement of my sorority house. I don't know if any of them will come back or not, as there are already 13 sororities and many more fraternities, but hey, it could happen.

AEPhiSierra 07-24-2003 11:41 PM

I heard the city university of new york aka CUNY kicked greek life off campus in the 70's so most of the chapters at the several campuses (Brooklyn, Hunter, Queens, City College, etc.) closed. It seems that chapters didn't really start coming back until the late '80's and early '90's.

Buttonz 07-25-2003 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AEPhiSierra
I heard the city university of new york aka CUNY kicked greek life off campus in the 70's so most of the chapters at the several campuses (Brooklyn, Hunter, Queens, City College, etc.) closed. It seems that chapters didn't really start coming back until the late '80's and early '90's.
I know that all greeks at Brooklyn were in-active in the 70's-early 80's...not sure if it was a CUNY wide thing or not. Right now Brooklyn has a strong greek system (with 3 nation sosorities, 3 locals and a 6 frats (or so) active today)


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