Nope.
were you around for the "U of Alabama breaks color barriers" ? I don't remember...anyway, Lovely...wouldn't you agree that was the most drama filled day ever? I think so.

If it was directed towards me, I am compelled to respond. I still suggest a holistic healer regardless of what apology was given.

Yeah this is nothing, THAT was drama. And a damn good discussion. Probably got deleted though *shrug*/ Some people can't take honest dialogue.

PM Mama can apologize all she wants but people are going to be having fun with THAT particular statement for a long time. Not just because some take it seriously (it's the internet) but because it just gives great fodder for jokes.

Man, I got a couple now but it's JUST TOO EASY.

It's actually not deleted....in light of this discussion I went back and read through it as well as "Will the Greek World Ever Desegregate"....Is DST still around?

edit:THE MOST DRAMATIC DAY IN GC HISTORY

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I'm sure everyone got what you meant dear...it was just surprising to hear you say it.

Be Cool?? I feel like I'm on Saved By The Bell!!!



OK folks, to get this thread back on track please.......

SQUASH IT!
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KILL IT!!!
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OR TAKE YOUR SOB STORY ELSEWHERE!!!!!!!!
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Let's get back to the discussion at hand :)

Actually that wasn't even the main dramatic thread- the main one was the Auburn thread where i had to verbally spank you and your bro, lol. That one WAS deleted.

RE: Questions!!!
 

Maybe you did not realize this but you have just made my blood boil:

When have you??
1. had problems buying a house in a black neighborhood? Oops sorry, you would never live next to such hoodlums.
My parents could NOT buy a house in an area of my town when my brother and I were infants.. and why? Because the current owner was not caucasian and TOLD THEM that he didn't want his house going to some "white uppity people". That was the only part of town that they could afford at the time that wasn't section 8 housing. So guess what IT DOES HAPPEN!
2. been followed around the store by a black person?
I ended up growing up in a prodominetly black neighborhood. All of the business were owned and operated by african americans and my friends were not white. I still remember being told not to go into the drugstore on the corner by my friends cause I wasn't welcome to shop for candy there. They had to take my money and buy some for me. The woman who owned the store taunted those kids for even being my friend.


Now, I know it goes both ways, believe my I do. I have family in Arkansas where there is segragated schooling still (YES IT IS TRUE!) AndI have seen to many ignorant people say things, but you are just as ignorant if you think that someone that is not white cannot be racist.
All it takes is education so that hopefully all of our children won't be.


ANother thought,
I am of Irish and American Indian decent. If you look at me you think that I am just white. My great great grandfather helped work the railroads and was treated worse than most could imagine. He was murdered by those he worked for because he asked for a raise to help his growing family. The could off him, not get in trouble and hire someone else instead of giving him a nickel an hour raise. My great grandmother was Cherokee Indian. Her family was part of the trail of tears. She couldn't even vote.
I do not blame an entire race for this, although the leaders were of European decent probably (how should I know!) and I do not blame the government and say I need retribution. I am me... all of me. I prove my worth every day with the choices I make in my life. I hope upon my judgement day when I stand before the lord God he sees me as Sarah, not a caucasian whose ancestors had problems. They aren't me and I am not them. I didn't suffer, they did. It takes a bigger person to forgive someone for something than to hold grudge.

hahaha

it was, wasn't it? I was trying to remember because I didn't think everything I'd written was in the posted thread...but I couldn't remember the thread...it was deleted? That sucks...it should have gone into the Archives as the greatest day in GC history. Don't you love arguing stimulating topics? So frequently anything that requires much thought on here goes dead in a day....while fun game has nearly 1,000 posts right now. I sit here at work and just hope something intertesting will survive, but it doesn't.

And verbally spanked.....I beg to differ. ;)

Ilovemyglo, was your post directed towards me?

OK, We all admit there is still Racisim in this world!

Whether it be of Color or Religion!

It as not going to go away! We have the closest thing of having a group fo people who discuss things somewhat rationally more so than anyplace I know!

Yes I am Predijuce, I dont like TALL people!

So There!

Are There any Tall Black, Yellow, Red, Or White Women out there that would like to help a short, Mature, big boned white guy out?

NANANAN!:D

Re: RE: Questions!!!
 

no Honeykiss, i was not directing it towards you, but neicy. I think you have made some very valid and interesting points. I hope I did not offend you. I was just very aggravated when I read that post asking those questions. I remember the pain of not getting my hair done with my friends growing up because they didn't do white girls hair. I just wanted to have cute hair like my friends!! Remembering that and reading that post really rubbed me wrong.


On another note. I showed this thread to my friends, two that are not caucasians (one is hispanic american, the other is african american) and they had to laugh because they said that they know members of their own ethnicities that are racists... it isn't just a white/black thing.

@ ilovemyglo.. I just didn't want to ASSume, ya know :D

I do know believe me I do!!!
:)

You are also not the only one laughing. Ask my family.

Actually, neicy, in my city, since it is a city, not some podunk town where just anyone can do hair and nails, you have to be LICENSED. You have to be BOARD CERTIFIED and that means you have to learn to cut any type of hair. But, those women had no problem doing my hair in the privacy of their own homes, just in their place of business. And when you were eight could you do your own hair? If so you could have been a hairdresser at twelve I am sure!
So, I am sure they were not just keen on doing black women's hair, because there were many times they did my hair IN THEIR HOMES ONLY. They didn't want me in their business because it looked bad.
I swear your ignorance angers me more and more.
You are NOT the only one who knows how it feels to have someone do something against you because your skin wasn't the "right" color.

Ignorant??Ignorant about what hun? I never said that I was the ONLY one who encountered racism.I said what YOU went through wasn't racism.The copy and paste/quote function is always available.

This thread is so interesting. It's good to have something really open your eyes and wake you up.
Recently I've been reading books about political correctness and free speech on campus, and this racism issue was brought up.

I admit that I believe non-whites can be racist, even to their own race, but if Neicy and others do not feel the term racist should be applied to blacks, then what is the big deal? is calling someone prejudiced less meaningful than calling them racist?

It hurts to think the way people have treated others in the past. Just yesterday I saw a story on a show Culture-shock (Canadian). It visited this small town to explore a story about slavery. Supposedly there was a community of about 200 slaves that lived there....
this is notable for 2 reasons 1) Canadians learn very little about slavery other than it was an American thing(but it wasn't, it happened here too) 2) there is an unmarked [supposed] burial site for many of those former slaves referred to as N*##@r Rock (it amazed me how easily they could say that word) which some would like to become a memorial

Anyway, the point is that many ppl of all races/cultures do not accept things that have been done in the past, but more and more are trying to understand and find out their truth.

Sure reverse-discrimination occurs as in the leading story, but discrimination against minorities is still much more prevalent in our societies.

I'm sorry if i seem to be jumping all over the place, there is just so many ideas brought up by this.

neicy81
 

HaHaHa.

Okay, I can agree to disagree, Neicy. Obviously someone not giving me the same graces as another person because of the color of my skin is not racist to you. Perhaps, it is just prejudist, either way I agree to disagree.

Ilovemyglo

You DID in fact get your hair done by them. If they were racist, they wouldn't have bothered.

I hate to say it but I find only one really racist person on this thread! DA!

I feel everyone has bent over Backwards to work with this individual who keeps bringing it up and always has a rebutal for everything!

Am I not suppose to like someone who is of a different color, gender, religion, or sexual preference, is that what you would like us to beleive!

I feel that these people are my freinds, Brothers/Sisters, no matter what!

If you do not like it, then again, I reiterate, go pound some sand!

You have the privledge, not the right to be on this site! Especially when you down grade people who are not what you what them to be!

You quote history, well bullS*&t then learn the real history, not from some professed guru of Blackism!

There have been over the years quite a lot ofwhite people who helped Blacks and other Races.

I for one get tired of your ragings about the under Privlidged of your Race! Get a life!!!!:eek:

I am damn sure you will flame me for this thought!

But you tell me I a cannot be freinds with an Asian, Homosexual, Black or anyother person on this site and others becaus of you!?

You forget yourself and the History you may have been brought up with!:(

Learn The History of your life, not a small microcosim that one person writes! Just because it is in Print Does not make it the Bible of life!:confused: :( :rolleyes:

And just what is the history of my life? Does that statement even make sense?I suggest you try holistic healing combined with anger management.

What the hell is holistic healing? Cuz apparently I need it too :rolleyes:

lol :). They are healing centers which use herbs and other healing properties to cure people of ailments. It also works for people who are suffering mentally.Most of the people that leave are usually more positive mentally and physically cured of diseases or ailments.

So is Dionysus saying that he's not racist, but most of the est of us probably are so somene should admitt? Hmm.....

I think this ONE time she is trying to keep it real. The internet overflows with internet sites that are virulently racist. You never see that here, and it's a question of is it because people here don't think like that, or is it because they are putting on a front and not expressing their true feelings?

Valid question.

In that regard....agreed...valid question.

it was just the way it was worded that I read it a touch differently.

Hey, Dionysus where did your post go? :confused: I was going to respond to it?

I think some of us are confusing prejudice and preference to be the same thing.

Here are the definitions of the two (courtesy of The American Heritage Dictionary):

prejudice: an adverse judgement or opinion formed beforehand without knowledge of the facts.

preference: the excercise of choice.


So how can one really discern the difference between someone being prejudice or someone having a PREFERENCE?

For example, I will only let another African American beautician relax and style my hair because I feel that he/she will understand my needs, frustrations, and questions that I have because they have been through the same thing. I have never let a non-african american style it nor will I ever. :)


Is this prejudice or preference?

I deleted it, I think it was a little too hot for GC! :D I didn't want to offend anyone.

But, LI84 basically summed up what I said. :)

That is preference by far. I can't even explain it being a white person but I do know that it is far easier for an Arican Amercian to have their styled by another African American. There is different hair structure and haiir needs and hair wants. It is just easier to relate to or with.

Don't tell me my definition of racism depends on my race!! That is racist! Racism can, and often does, come in the form an istutution with power, but that is only one form of it. There are a lot more othere things that deal with power. Like if I"m white and I go into a store but can't get service because the black guy there doesn't like crackers. That is racism. He has the power not to sell me anything, its not instutionalised power, but is power none the less.

Yes the power to....OPPRESS. You give great examples. But have they actually happened to you?No!

A quick question, how would you know if that happened to him or not? Instead of just saying no, maybe it has happened, I know I have had a few instances like that happen to me, yet, I didn't effect the way I think or the person I am. I have many African American friends and I plan to keep it that way. It's the little shit that people let get to them that hurts.

Optimist and Neicy81, are we going to argue about the definition of the word racism again?

I think we established that different people have different meanings of the word. You are not going to change their mind, nor are they going to change yours.

Arguing over whether or not a specific incident is racism is pointless when you can't even agree on a definition.