*sighs* We've been off topic for two pages now. *sighs again*

Either we need to get back on topic or lock this thread.

EVERYONE has their faults. Also, EVERYONE has made valid points. :eek:

*Stage lights fade to black*

I say lock it. If you feel that it's absolutely, positively necessary to continue this discussion, it'd probably be best to choose the other threads to continue. There's SIX to choose from. ;)

This thread makes me feel sad. :(
I say let's just all try to be a little nicer to each other. Most people don't want to read these bad nicknames for their beloved GLOs. Most people don't like to be 'called out' in front of a group of people even if it is in cyberspace. When someone feels defensive, the natural reaction is to lash out so let's try to avoid putting each other on the defensive. Have a good night and a kinder and gentler GC. :)

Just b/c you can say anything doesn't mean you should. I agree that these types posts have negative effects, you have no idea how many PNMs wonder these boards.

This all happend last summer as well...

people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

and i don't think anyone, anywhere has ever not made fun of something or themselves.

As for PNM's reading these threads...what? you don't think they aren't going to hear any of this the first day they get to campus? c'mon!

and my last point is this....we are sitting here talking on a MESSAGE BOARD! this means, you don't really know the person on the other side of the internet, for all you know there could be a GC'er out there who isn't who he/she claims to be or even if they are affiliated with an organization. So who cares really that much if someone has a nickname for something else?

Wouldn't it be nice if PNM's didn't hear this sort of thing the moment they step on campus? The only way to prevent that from happening is to stop spreading the nicknames. That's the only way that they will die out.

GreekChat is a great way to get an idea across to Greeks all over the country -- and that's why I have been so vocal about the negative effects that these nicknames have on GLOs. If people would take that message to heart, then perhaps we could start ridding campuses of the nicknames once and for all. I'm not saying that we can stop it completely tomorrow, but we've got to start somewhere. :)

Here's what gets me. When I went through rush 30 years ago, my mother--who was raised next to the U. of Arkansas campus--told me all these same nicknames for the same groups. I remember that my father looked up from his paper and commented that they were the same nicknames he'd heard when he rushed in 1941.

They just never seemed that funny or inventive--for instance, substitute "krappa" for any "kappa" in a group's name, etc. Ha. Ha.:rolleyes:

I think a separate thread about negative nicknames would be a good idea. This thread was started at point and skipped all points relevant to it's intended direction or destination.

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Being that this turned into a nasty mud slinging, I don't think starting another thread is a good idea. If someone is interested in the nicknames, they can consult the other threads mentioned on the first page.

Now that's hilarious, I can't imagine people using names like "Katcha Katcha Gonorrhea" back in the 1940's when my grandparents were children. :eek::D

Just wanted to say that, for me, this thread actually made me feel a whole lot better about my organization. Knowing that everyone else has bad nicknames too makes me not feel so bad when people make up stupid crap to call my sisters and I. Besides, considering that basically EVERYONE has a bad nickname, it kinda detracts from the whole offensive nature of it. There's no shock value in it, and I think that pointing that out makes them a little easier to deal with. Just my opinion :)

Can I just say "WOW?" I so did not expect that. Interesting. I've been reading this thread and keeping out of it, but had to respond to this.

Wishinhopin, I'm so sorry you've had a bad experience with negative nicknames...at least now you know it happens to ALL of us. No one is left unscathed by these names.

ps: I don't give a second thought to them (maybe b/c I can't think of any good Pi Phi ones. Pi Beta Thigh? Something to laugh about at the gym, but that's about it for me.) They're all old. They're not clever. They don't ring a bit of truth (usually). Just not something to get your panties in a twist about. (Unless they're full-on offensive and scary. Then you might want to consider reporting it to your Panhellenic Council. They're the liasion b/w Greeks and non-Greeks and Greeks with other Greeks.)