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DGTess 08-20-2015 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AnchorAlum (Post 2327213)
Not surprising.
If you have not lived in Texas, especially in one of the big cities and been involved with Alumnae Panhellenic in securing recs as I was for years, you wouldn't believe it.

It all starts with what summer camp you go to every year as a little kid, then when you're a junior in High School you make your way to Austin for Roundup, where sorority girls are coming up to ask your name and where you are from, what HS, etc. (this happened to my daughter, who did not want go to UT) and then you go to the Panhellenic rush forums in your hometown.
The professional portfolio photographs, the letters, recs. It's unbelievable.

I did this as an Alumnae Panhellenic volunteer all through the 90's and looking back on the experience I just have to laugh. All the other Texas schools were heavy on recs but it was not a cut and dried issue like the process in Austin.

One of the challenges is that these particular houses might have up to 100 legacies to their chapter going through rush. There is no way that they only take legacies. The emotional disaster some of the mothers suffer is frankly ridiculous. "OMG how will she EVER get into Junior League if she is not in so-and-so!" Moms who sort of figure out that their daughter may not be a fit for their house at UT will then send their girl to another school (discussed in another thread) where their GLO is not perhaps so strong so she can be a strong candidate for pledging. At least she is not relegated to **shudder** having to pledge some house that is not as special at UT as her house was...

Hey, I was super naïve and thought my GLO was just wonderful everywhere. Such is the thinking of an active! When my husband's corporate moves meant we lived in other parts of the country and I joined alumnae groups to meet people, it was an eye-opener. Other groups that were not all that strong at my Alma Mater were super strong in places like, well, Texas.

It all comes out in the wash, doesn't it? And you meet so many wonderful women from every group. I loved every minute of my Panhellenic experiences working with those ladies. That's why I like this site. We're all from different parts of the country and from different GLO's and I just enjoy the shared experiences.

I did not see this when I lived in San Antonio, where my daughter graduated from high school and chose UT. Thankfully, she didn't want to rush.

I was active in the alumnae group, but I guess no one ever considered I wouldn't know the deal. DD never went to camp, or Roundup, and I never gave a thought that all the groups were as good as mine.

The flip side, though, was that I only saw one sorority woman in the whole time I was there put down another group. She came through the airport when we were greeting Convention attendees, and *literally* lifted her nose in the air with her finger while announcing the name of *her* group. It did not make me look kindly upon them ....

APhiLife 08-20-2015 12:24 PM

My mom went to UT (in the early 70's) but it's interesting that not one of her six daughters even considered going to school there. I think it is a great school- but they definitely have a unique student culture, not just in Greek Life but at the school overall.
Right now my mom is taking her final baby to move into the dorm almost a thousand miles from home. I joked with her on the phone and said I bet she might be one of a very few moms taking her "baby" to college twenty years after the first one!

Griffins&Quills 08-20-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LAblondeGPhi (Post 2327131)
Belle - I think you pointed out on the "dream expansions" thread that Texas has a culture problem that needs to be addressed before expansion can be successful

I think that was me. But honestly, the chapters at Texas are SO RUDE to the other chapters. It just amazes me (in a bad way).

jolene1 08-20-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by APhiLife (Post 2327220)
My mom went to UT (in the early 70's) but it's interesting that not one of her six daughters even considered going to school there. I think it is a great school- but they definitely have a unique student culture, not just in Greek Life but at the school overall.
Right now my mom is taking her final baby to move into the dorm almost a thousand miles from home. I joked with her on the phone and said I bet she might be one of a very few moms taking her "baby" to college twenty years after the first one!

I was at a colonization meeting for a uni nearby and the gal I was next to enlightened me about Texas recruitment. Holy crap. I would have never survived.

TexasMom2015 08-20-2015 10:05 PM

My daughter went to the dance party house having heard of it before. She said that it wasn't as bad as she expected and kind of fun. She did say that they had another room for talking to girls that they obviously had preselected (she wasn't one of them). She also said that for part of the time an active talked to her (and the other PNMs not in the other "special" room also had conversations with other actives). Even though she wasn't one of their preselected "chosen" ones and has no connections within this house, she got an invitation from them for round two, much to her surprise. Who knows what round three holds for her, but hopefully this showed her not to prejudge based on reputation. I'm coaching her to have an open mind, but sometimes that's hard with 18 year olds!

trymeplease 08-20-2015 10:20 PM

My out of state daughter successfully pledged a sorority at UT last year - this is her first year on the other side. As far as the PNM's knowing the ropes, my daughter learned about the dance party and other shenanigans within the first hour of talking to local Texas girls. So, they know what is coming. She didn't think it was rude, just silly - not the experience she was looking for. As mentioned upthread a few sororities are focused on ~200 girls from their HS, camp, church, whatever, and could fill a pledge class twice as big with those girls. Those sororities also rarely wear their letters around campus (because, try-hard), and in general keep to themselves or select few others. Not bad, just a different experience.

So, for future PNM's that read this, get those recs in, and work to make connections with girls in a few houses ahead of time (contact friends of friends, etc.). My daughter is having the time of her life!

LAblondeGPhi 08-21-2015 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills (Post 2327280)
I think that was me. But honestly, the chapters at Texas are SO RUDE to the other chapters. It just amazes me (in a bad way).

Ah! you're right. Belle mentioned the real estate problem, you mentioned the culture!

APhiLife 08-21-2015 01:25 PM

Love seeing the door chant videos that are being posted on Insta!

jolene1 08-21-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by trymeplease (Post 2327367)
My out of state daughter successfully pledged a sorority at UT last year - this is her first year on the other side. As far as the PNM's knowing the ropes, my daughter learned about the dance party and other shenanigans within the first hour of talking to local Texas girls. So, they know what is coming. She didn't think it was rude, just silly - not the experience she was looking for. As mentioned upthread a few sororities are focused on ~200 girls from their HS, camp, church, whatever, and could fill a pledge class twice as big with those girls. Those sororities also rarely wear their letters around campus (because, try-hard), and in general keep to themselves or select few others. Not bad, just a different experience.

So, for future PNM's that read this, get those recs in, and work to make connections with girls in a few houses ahead of time (contact friends of friends, etc.). My daughter is having the time of her life!

Do you mind me asking where your daughter pledged? :o

KerriMarie 08-21-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by APhiLife (Post 2327481)
Love seeing the door chant videos that are being posted on Insta!

Coming from a school without door chants or door stacks - they're kind of terrifying! Awesome, but terrifying!

DubaiSis 08-21-2015 05:23 PM

I attended a rehearsal of house tours day at a chapter last weekend. They didn't do any of the chanting/singing stuff outside and the only singing was inside, not especially loud and seemed very odd to me. I wanted the crazy! But it's true that the first time a newbie experiences that they do nearly wet themselves. No amount of prep gets you ready for that explosion when the first door of the first house opens.

OTT 08-22-2015 09:21 AM

Best of all great luck to all the young ladies going through recruitment at Texas this year! I'm hopeful that all PNMs find a great home for the next four years and that each of their experiences in so doing will be a richly rewarding one. And a great big thank you to all the actives and volunteers at each sorority house for being so thoughtful, welcoming, patient and kind to all PNMs invited into their homes. Your hard work and dedication to doing things the correct way is praiseworthy. Here's to a wonderful last few days to everyone involved! Hook 'Em!

Ladybugmom 08-24-2015 01:03 PM

Bid Day is today!! Good luck to all of the wonderful girls who stuck it through this past week!

jolene 08-24-2015 01:12 PM

When do the girls get their bids? My rec girl went through this rush.

ChioLu 08-24-2015 01:19 PM

Do we know if the piggybacking happened on Saturday?
Or the glitter bombing happened yesterday?

Ladybugmom 08-24-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jolene (Post 2328262)
When do the girls get their bids? My rec girl went through this rush.


The PNM's are supposed to be at Hogg Auditorium at 5:00.

Chiolu...I have not heard if the piggy backing or glitter throwing happened this year:rolleyes: Dance party for sure happened.

clemsongirl 08-24-2015 02:34 PM

Does UT or do the individual sororities publish a bid list? In case I can't find my girls amidst a sea of happy new faces:)

utkdce 08-24-2015 02:37 PM

UT has not published bid lists in the past, so probably not going to happen this year.

I just heard quota is Primary (freshmen) 48 + Secondary (upperclassmen) 13

Griffins&Quills 08-24-2015 03:37 PM

So, lower quota than last year

Nanners52674 08-24-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills (Post 2328304)
So, lower quota than last year

Wow! That's interesting, given the massive boom comprable schools with Greek life have been seeing.

g41965 08-24-2015 04:52 PM

Lower quota
 
I'm beginning to think the tougher admissions standards and changing demographics are lowering the amount of interest in Greek life. UT is more like UCLA now than Albama or LSU.

cebrain 08-24-2015 04:59 PM

Well I know with lots of my daughters friends they couldn't get into UT. They now only take top 8% as automatic admission. More of her friends and alumni kids this year went out of state or private universities. When we went on a campus visit last spring they specifically told us that it doesn't matter who your parents are, they want diversity and unique. I think this reflects in the Greeklife culture specifically in this environment and city where for more and more it really isn't their thing. My daughter also had several friends who thought it would be to hard to juggle sorority and classwork especially her good friends that got into McCombs business school.
We are still trying to figure what she will want to balance should she get in here this year or if she chooses to go elsewhere.

DallasMom 08-24-2015 05:46 PM

Totally agree
 
^^^agree!

Getting accepted at UT is so difficult now. My high school senior daughter has decided on Florida or Auburn. Most of her friends are going out of state next year. And they all have great test scores,GPAs, etc. They simply aren't in the top 8% at their competitive schools.

sassafrass11 08-24-2015 06:31 PM

My senior son goes to a private non-ranking high school. He's got automatic admin to other big state schools schools WITH money promised, and a very slim chance of getting into UT. While it makes me sad in a nostalgic way (his dad and I met at UT), we have to deal in reality.

aephi alum 08-24-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by utkdce (Post 2328286)
I just heard quota is Primary (freshmen) 48 + Secondary (upperclassmen) 13

Is that secondary quota for sophomores and up, or juniors and up? I'm guessing the former because you said primary quota was for freshmen.

KDCat 08-24-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by g41965 (Post 2328318)
I'm beginning to think the tougher admissions standards and changing demographics are lowering the amount of interest in Greek life. UT is more like UCLA now than Albama or LSU.

The size of the system and the size of quota reminds me of University of Illinois. Illinois has 19 sororities and, IIRC, quota roughly aroudn 50-60.

pmdal 08-24-2015 08:07 PM

Wow. That is 61 and if all 14 groups bid quota that would be 854 girls and 300 girls cut or dropped completely out. 74% placement rate. Not a positive trend.

Just interested 08-24-2015 08:43 PM

KD. 66. We are thrilled with our girls.

KDCat 08-24-2015 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Just interested (Post 2328370)
KD. 66. We are thrilled with our girls.

Congrats!

txhorn 08-24-2015 09:27 PM

Alpha Xi Delta has 71 (10 quota additions). Everyone is so excited!

Just interested 08-24-2015 09:34 PM

Great job Alpha Xi Delta.

irishpipes 08-24-2015 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KDCat (Post 2328361)
The size of the system and the size of quota reminds me of University of Illinois. Illinois has 19 sororities and, IIRC, quota roughly aroudn 50-60.

I guess I disagree completely with this. Illinois has 19 NPCs, Texas has only 14, which is small for the size school. Texas needs more sororities, but the system is elitist and unfriendly to change. The system at Illinois is the total opposite - very Midwestern in feel and not terribly competitive.

jolene 08-24-2015 10:01 PM

My rec gal went DG. Sniff sniff, but great for DG. ;)

lyrica9 08-24-2015 10:04 PM

67 for ADPi (Facebook)

clemsongirl 08-25-2015 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lyrica9 (Post 2328396)
67 for ADPi (Facebook)

Have you seen a photo of the new pledge class yet? I'm dying to find out if either of my rec girls went ADPi but I haven't seen one yet!

lyrica9 08-25-2015 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by clemsongirl (Post 2328416)
Have you seen a photo of the new pledge class yet? I'm dying to find out if either of my rec girls went ADPi but I haven't seen one yet!

No, looks like their last photo post was pref. I'm in the Austin area, so I got the numbers info from the local alum association.

Katmandu 08-25-2015 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Just interested (Post 2328370)
KD. 66. We are thrilled with our girls.

Great news!! The daughter and friend of a chapter sister went KD at texas a few years ago and said the chapter was doing very well.

KDCat 08-25-2015 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2328391)
I guess I disagree completely with this. Illinois has 19 NPCs, Texas has only 14, which is small for the size school. Texas needs more sororities, but the system is elitist and unfriendly to change. The system at Illinois is the total opposite - very Midwestern in feel and not terribly competitive.

I thought they had 18?

If it's only 14, then you are right. Those are terrible numbers for a school that size.

Benzgirl 08-25-2015 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes (Post 2328391)
I guess I disagree completely with this. Illinois has 19 NPCs, Texas has only 14, which is small for the size school. Texas needs more sororities, but the system is elitist and unfriendly to change. The system at Illinois is the total opposite - very Midwestern in feel and not terribly competitive.

Isn't this somewhat similar to Ole Miss and Arkansas where it is VERY difficult for a new chapter to colonize? While I don't think these schools are necessarily unfriendly to change, some families would never hear of their DD pledging a new sorority at their alma mater.

DeltaBetaBaby 08-25-2015 10:18 AM

I think a lot of it has to do with Austin being a cool city in its own right. I don't think NPC groups, on the whole, do a good job of marketing ourselves beyond something fun to do in college. If you can have fun without joining, why join?


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