25 other NPC sororities :P

I've learnt that there are truly psychotic people out there. Also that reading comprehension appears to be at an all-time low.

i've learned that NPC sororities are so much more different than NPHC than i would have ever imagined. i thought that they basically had the same idea behind them, but it's apparently not that way. and as a disclaimer, i don't mean that as a put-down to either one. i've never had any extensive experience with either, but this rushing thing still kills me. i didn't realize it was like the stories i've read through GC.

1.)I've enjoyed learning so much about NPHC sororities.
2.) People sometimes have trouble on the internet understanding that a disagreement is not a personal attack.
3.) Many Greeks have a great sense of humor.
4.) Some do not.
5.) NPC recruitment has improved from when I was active and an advisor.
6.) That Panhellenic spirit is real, and empowering.

Oh yeah, that some people have a really loose definition of the TOS which makes it laughable when they try to use it against you.

Terms of Service. It's that handy thing that you click "I Agree" to when you sign up for an account.

- That despite being explained the meaning of the word "discretion" numerous times, some PNMs and PNAMs absolutely cannot grasp the concept.

- That some PNMs are desperate enough for the greek experience and think, in some sick sort of way, that collecting the rituals of groups they may be rushing is a good idea.

- That some PNMs are just so absolutely stupid and lacking in common sense that they join a group to collect said rituals and use an email address that CONTAINS THEIR FULL NAME!

I was reading through and nodding along, but when I got to this, I actually laughed out loud. How right you are, and yet we keep reading and writing.

Gee, I wonder who that could be? :rolleyes:

ETA -- If you're a member of the following sororities, she has your ritual because it was given to her online:

Alpha Chi Omega
Alpha Xi Delta
Chi Omega
Delta Gamma
Delta Zeta
Kappa Alpha Theta
Kappa Delta
Phi Mu
Pi Beta Phi
Sigma Kappa
Zeta Tau Alpha

Who and what are you all talking about? I'm most interested. Do tell, please.

I obviously am not on GC as much I thought I was - I'm clueless, too. Who would give out ritual on-line????

Hint: she has posted in this thread. If you can't figure it out from there...

I don't know. Can someone send me the links?

Check the daily snark.

That seriously just pisses me off. Why would anyone do this? If you're not a member of that particular organization, why on earth would you care? You can't fake being a member no matter how many rituals you have. Get a fucking life you fool!!! This person is an absolute moron.
Well guess what? You may have a copy of the Sigma Kappa ritual but you're NOT an initiated sister, you NEVER will be, and you will NEVER EVER grasp the concept of true sisterhood. Ritual goes far beyond reading a damn manual. You have to be there and experience it to get it.

eep :eek:

I'm glad she doesn't have a copy of ASA's ritual. That seems too stalker-y to me, maybe this belongs in the psycho PNM's thread. I feel bad for the sororities at her future school who will invite her to recruitment and pref parties not knowing that they're choosing someone who has no respect for the greek system over a more respectful girl.

My guess is that said person (whoever they are, I have no idea) may feel inclined to start spreading ritual about online in order to piss off those who hate her here.
That's what I would do at least. But only if I didn't make it into a sorority.

If such a thing could be proven, and I'm more than willing to accept that such a burden could be met in this instance, would it be enough to get a PNM banned from recruitment?

Seriously, it's a pretty big breach of something important to the groups. Why should chapters even have to have welcome her into their homes for first round?

If I were a member of a group at the campus where she rushes or even at any of the campuses in her state whose ritual she had stolen, I might take it upon myself to alert the greek life director at each campus who the person was and what she had done or at least every chapter at the campus.

An explanation of what had occurred, the email address used, a copy of her posts soliciting the information, and the person's name and a note indicating she wouldn't be welcomed into our house: that would do it.

I'm cooling off a little, and I wonder: is the email address something that could be faked or is it a campus email that can be traced to a user?

Here's one:

Keep the conversations with the thin-skinned people to a minimum.

I've learned that I really appreciate my sisters. I've actually gotten to meet several in real life.:cool:

I've learned that GLOs are different but alike.

Recruitment on different campuses are different but alike.

I've learned to ignore continuing battles between different GCer's. It's too time consuming to try to figure who said what, when,why,how and where.

I'd be inclined to believe that except that there's been more incriminating evidence to implicate said user.

So, a person in real life would be convinced that the person accused actually did what she's accused of here?

Maybe I'm being childish taking it so seriously, but I'd hate to think that a group would unknowingly give a bid to person who had such little regard for ritual in general. While I can understand a PNM wanting to know all about MS, going to the lengths that this person has gone would indicate a pretty serious character flaw.

Amen, brother.

My question is- how would they know? 9 pnm's out of 10 would not walk into a recruitment party and go "hey, I want to be an Alpha Gamma Delta because I already have your ritual and I think it's beautiful."

IFC recruitment does seem a lot more open and direct and I'm with you about that, but aren't you guys more known for kicking out guys you've already given bids to or having one member with the power to blackball a guy?

That seems plenty scary to me but maybe it's myth.

Yes, and I have never been very happy about either.

#1 - Yes, IFC chapters can kick out pledges without a problem. I have only been in favor of this if the pledge is not fulfilling his obligations. The pledge master needs to let him know that his ass is on the line. If the pledge doesn't get it together after that, I have no problem removing him from the chapter. There are members of fraternities who think that it is okay to kick out one pledge to scare the other pledges. I do have a problem with that. Why give a guy a bid, get his hopes up, knowing that you are going to kick him out before initiation.

#2 - How many members can blackball a guy varies from chapter to chapter. My own chapter went from just 1 member to 2 members to 5 members. Some chapters say that 10% of the members present have to vote to blackball. I do not think that 1 member to have that much power.

I have no idea of what they actually saw and whether they retained it, but I get the feeling that the people who brought this up have some proof they could share with the chapters.

Not that they use the procedure for stuff like this, but I can remember once seeing a list of members who had been expelled or people who were forever prohibited from being initiated on one of the national NPHC sites. At the time, I was kind of blown away by the idea of having such a public list of shame.

Do you ever have these flashes of recognition of how NPHC does some stuff better than NPC? I'm having one of those flashes of recognition. Get caught soliciting ritual on the internet with some pretty good proof it was you, get banned from initiation at any of our chapters.

It's just a dream, but it's kind of a nice one.

I guess it may just be a question of when you put the new members though the ringer: NPC recruitment vs. IFC pledgeship.

I'd prefer a better way with the strengths of both and none of the weakness. (Who wouldn't?)

I know that the NPC works really hard at perfecting the system, but it's still an emotional roller coaster for everybody.

I have learned on GreekChat that many GC situations aren't as they first appear and that people often have good reasons what might initially appear to be meanness for meanness's sake. (Sometimes they are just being evil, but trying to tell the difference keeps things lively.)

AGDLynn is very wise with her desire to stay out of spats. Most of the more universally admired members follow a similar policy to sort of stay above the fray, but I can't seem to resist jumping in sometimes despite the good example that they set. Maybe someday. . .

Very much so.

If her name is in the email address, it's very easy to figure out. I'm sure the GC alum are more than willing to let their chapter know about this at the school where she's rushing.

What is the daily snark? Just wondering.....:confused:

^^^ i want in too!

I mean, I would just like to know who is giving out ritual information and how they obtained it.

It bothers me. Ritual is something shared only among initiated members and those that assisted in writing the original ceremonies.

What member would have such disrespect for their GLO that they would willingly hand over their ritual book to some PNM?????

People these days.......:(

The only thing that worries me about this, and I'm not really that worried about it, is the possibility that maybe someone else from here or her old campus who didn't like her created an email profile with her name. Granted that sounds pretty crazy and elaborate, but so does getting other people's ritual before you rush. It's just a question of who the crazy person is: the name in the email address or a different person who created it.

Perhaps we should start a GC mysteries thread.

I can think of at least twice that people have posted awful threads in another person's name trying to ruin that person's recruitment.

That individuals name was not publicly posted here on GC but it's a strange coincidence that since this person was outed, they haven't posted on GC and all of a sudden, their posts & messages in that forum group have mysteriously disappeared as well.

Just out of curiosity...when you're talking about the person being "outed" are you referring to the posts in this thread? (Which just happened last evening, so that person not posting on GC since then could just be a coincidence.) Or are you talking about an "outing" that occurred in the other forum where the rituals are being traded? :confused:

(No particular reason for asking, aside from the fact that I suspect I know who you guys are talking about and was just curious to see if my hunch was correct. lol )