Stop wondering, cause you know that is NEVER going to happen, lol! I think that would be a little too real for them.

I like Theo. He's gagnsta and I really appreciate that about him. He said that he wouldn't support homosexuality and he's stickin' to that. I feel that. Walla Walla got issues and is very needy. Real World is really stank and I hardly watch it any more.

Ditto. Really, what are the chances WALLA WALLA would go to 47th Street, Englewood, or Cabrini? On second thought, that wouldn't have been such a bad idea, it would help her get over her "intimidation" of Black people REAL quick;)

What I didn't like was the fact that they were trying to make Theo be the bad guy just because he was standing by his convictions. Theo grew up in a religious household with his father being a minister and all, and he is going about what he believes in.

The guy Chris was trying to make it seem that it was just for human rights in general, but that was not the case. It was about gay and lesbian human rights, not just "human rights". I give Theo 2 thumbs up for standing by his belief. He believes in what he believes in and that's that.

Was anyone else laughing at Walla Walla or was it just me? You see how she had Theo's side. Now what I want to know is, what kind of town is Walla Walla that she never met a black person, and doesn't know any gay people?

The problem I have with WALLA WALLA "having Theo's back", is that she was so busy trying to "explain" Theo's religious convictions as the reason why he couldn't condone homosexuality, yet she could only confess to the audience that she held the same belief. My issue is WALLA WALLA, should have been woman enough to say that she held the same belief as Theo to Chris' face, and that she was only going to the human rights meeting to appease the roommates!

She's a fake azz b**ch, and I can't stand her!!:mad:

You know what, last season we found out that Mike from RW NY was raised in a home where he was taught that black people were inferior and people were ALL OVER that boy about him and his beliefs. It was no excuse that he had been taught that blacks were inferior, he should know better as a rational adult.

Now I am not one to equate sexuality and race, but I think that people are being really hypocritical here (not you kiml22, but people on this board in general).

Standing by what you were taught means nothing if you were taught to be intolerant and to hate. And for me, that means hating anybody, not just because of color, but because of sexuality, religion or whatever else makes us different as human beings. You can't say that his beliefs are ok because that's what he was taught JUST because this time he happens to be htaing gays and not another race. Hate is hate and intolerance is intolerance.

Same way that Walla Walla should have known that men were going to be on this show, he should have known that gays were going to be on this show- if he was going to have a problem with gay people, or living with a gay person he should not be there. Does he expect his roomate to not live his life because of his beliefs? I don't think so.

APPLAUSE!!!

Exactly!

In MY humble opinion..Theo is either a closet homosexual, or very curious. He talks about how disgusting male homosexuality is entirely TOO much. Convincing himself or his roomates? Hard to tell. Also, I guess I was the only one who found his behavior last week to be extremely rude and out of order. True it was his right to have guests, but it was also his responsibility to make sure they were considerate of his other roommates. How he reacted when the roomates confronted him was very immature also. All he can say is "Shut up, shut up, shut up!"? Imma need Theo to do better. It is one thing to stand by your convictions, it is yet another to act stubborn just to try to appear hard.

As for WW... I think I would have already been kicked off this season for whoopin' it. I have so little tolerance for drama queens/attention-needy people (PG language).

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kiml122
[B]What I didn't like was the fact that they were trying to make Theo be the bad guy just because he was standing by his convictions. Theo grew up in a religious household with his father being a minister and all, and he is going about what he believes in.

Theo believes that homosexuality is sin and if bases this belief on religious teachings/background. Does his beliefs also include that fornication is a sin also or does he believe that fornication is ok but homosexuality is a sin?

how 'bout i was thinking the same thing when i was watching the show last night.

i don't think that Theo is being intolerant. i think he is just sticking to his convictions. mike from the real world, in my opinion, wasn't being intolerable either. he was miseducated and was stating what the beliefs of his father.

i don't believe theo hates chris, he just can't get with his lifestyle. what i actually admire about theo is that he has admitted to not accepting homosexuality but is not letting the fact that chris is gay interfere with his friendship with him. theo said that he likes chris, but not homosexuality and i can understand that.

and, i think chris is almost waiting for theo to "act up" so he can dig in his isht. i think he wants theo to say something or act out of aggression and intolerance for the homosexual lifestyle so that he can have the opportunity to plex.

so one is "standing by his convictions" while the other was "miseducated"??? The only difference between these two men is who they were taught to hate.

Like I said before, teh fact that he is talking about gays instead of blacks, whites or asians does not make it any less wrong.

That is the problem I have with religions sometimes- people will use them to justify any hatred or prejudice and feel like they have a righteous reason to be prejudiced.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by snuggles12
[B]But, what I think is hyporitical is that he thinks lesbian women are "sexy" and gay men are "disgusting"...According to the Bible, BOTH are SINS!!!! I think homosexuality is wrong and a sin, but I also believe that what other people do with their own lives is their business--NOT MINE, and that only God has the right to judge them...

That's exactly what I'm saying: "If ya can't take the heat..." then, WHY did you come on the show in the first place?? If I were on the show I wouldn't be acting like he is by judging Chris (b/c Theo IS judging Chris by saying one thing and doing another)...I would be kinda grossed out at times (like when Chrsi was making out with his "friend") but I would respectfully voice my opinions and concerns (of which I wouldn't have as long as we were not sharing a room)...the same rules that apply for the rest of the house should apply to Chris as well...

That's what's up!!!

I think that this is a damn good topic as far as last nights show. Man talking about a really good stimulating conversation where you have different thoughts and views on the same show, and it's ok. I just wanted to put that out there.:D

Now back to the topic.
I'm not sure that I want to classify what Theo has is hate towards Chris because he is gay. Now he does state that a homosexual lifestyle is a sin, and I agree with you Snuggles12 that he is talking out both sides of his mouth when he says that about the gay lifestyle, but yet he is having sex outside of marriage, which also is a sin.

Now you saw that he called his father last night who is a minister to verify that being gay is a sin. Now you heard his father confirm that it was a sin, maybe his father never told him that have sex outside being married is a sin. ;) I'm just saying...he he he.

One more thing....someone made a comment that Aneesa's eyes do not blink at the same time....well I saw it last night and I thought I was going to fall on the floor laughing.

but, if you remember, mike was saying what his father had told him. i don't recall him saying that he actually believed that. if he did and i'm wrong, i'll wear the hat.

and as far as religion goes, anyone who is a true believer and really is a follower, such as myself, will not hate anyone. we are taught to love everyone. true, we do believe in a right and wrong, but we are not to hate anyone who as chosen the latter path. i don't think theo hates chris or anyone else who is gay. i simply believe that he disagrees with homosexuality and that it is rooted in his spiritual and religious beliefs

Would it make a difference if I used another word?

So instead of hatred it's intolerance, or prejudice, or bigotry, or judgement? It's all the same in my eyes.

Regardless of who taught it to him, Mike got criticised for even expressing those feelings. It was not his father that people were criticising, it was him.

Now when Theo says the same stuff but about somebody else, it's ok? Because it springs from a religious source, we should respect the fact that he thinks it is ok to discriminate against a certain group of people? Because it is rooted in a spiritual belief? There are a lot of wrongheaded ideas rooted in spiritual beliefs and the fact that someone thinks god said it doesn't make them ok.
I think that people who say it is when they were the first ones to criticise Mike are hypocrites.

the point that i am trying to make is that i don't believe theo is discriminating against chris or other homosexuals. he just doesn't approve of the lifestyle. i haven't once heard him say that he doesn't like chris because he is gay, nor have i seen him treat chris with disrespect/disdain because he is gay. theo has just made it known that, because of his religious belifes, he doesn't believe in homosexuality. and, i don't believe he is judging chris either. he hasn't condemned chris to hell and if he did, it wouldn't be right because that is not his call to make. he doesn't talk down to chris, he doesn't treat chris bad. he just made it known how he feels about the homosexual lifestyle.

and yes, mike got criticized for saying what his father told him, but not by me because i didn't think it to be as serious as coral made it out to be. i think he could've picked his words better, but i wasn't on the "i hate mike" bandwagon because of it. and i don't think there were a lot of people who were.

I didn't mean those areas specifically and wasn't implying that Southside equated the projects or low income housing... besides Cabrini is a bit west. I'm wondering if the place where they are doing the mural is near the Point I really couldn't tell from Tuesday's show. But as you know there are many beautiful museums south. Museum of Science for instance right down the street from UofC in Hyde Park. The reason that I brought it up is, being from Chicago and seeing how they only stay in those two areas North (wicker park) and South loop (water tower place) they are definitely stuck in a bubble and aren't being exposed to a true experience of Chicago.

Is it just me...
 

HC that one other chick on the RW looks like Paula Jones, the chick that had an affair with Clinton when he was Governor of Arkansas?

RW Chicago Episode 3/12
 

Did anyone noticed that David's song from RW New Orleans was played, "Come on Baby", was played during the show?

Re: RW Chicago Episode 3/12
 

Thanks!

I was watching it and wondering why the song sounded so familiar.

Re: RW Chicago Episode 3/12
 

YES!! I was like "Noooo" that negro does not need ANY ego stroking

Re: Re: RW Chicago Episode 3/12
 

LMAO... :D I needed a lil' chuckle!!!

Come on be my baby tonight...
 

It was a stupid song then....and it's still a stupid song. :rolleyes:

Re: Come on be my baby tonight...
 

That song was so bad!

But admit it, when you heard it you were literally rolling on the floor with laughter! Admit it!

I personally consider it one of MTV's finest programming moments.:p

I STILL laugh remembreing his "video" where he was all up on someone else's car trying to pimp. Oh My Lord! He was such an ass!

Re: Re: Come on be my baby tonight...
 

YES I WAS! I WAS LIKE WTH!!!:eek:

Has anyone still been watching the Real World?

yup, i have. i still think walla walla is a big fat whiner regardless of hospital visits and dr. bills.

REAL WORLD
 

If no one is paying attention, i believe that the reason that there was a rush to get this season on the air becasue I think that it has to do with 9-11.

Yup
 

I still watch and I agree with Urbane. I can't stand walla walla. She's so quick to judge everyone who is even slightly different from her. That makes my skin crawl. I also KNEW that one of the cast members (I can't recall her name) has an eating disorder. She was much to thin in the episode where they were training for lifeguards. This season has been something else.

Yup, I'm still watching it, even though its getting on my nerves. I was so excited that they were taping in Chicago because I live in Chicago but I'm so dissappointed. Hopefully tonight will be good.

LOL, If Wally Wally says something stupid in reference to Muslims or Afghanistan I might throw my shoe at the T.V.

Okay, why in the HELL did they show her freakin "clot". I don't freakin want to see that crap!

That was too freakin' ridiculous! :mad:

SAB

LMAO
 

CTFU @ "SAB"!!!

I totally agree with yu though. I mean wasn't that URINE in the cup too? They all had their friggin faces in it!

I OFFICALLY can't stand WALLA WALLA, first of all she had the NERVE to criticized Anissa about walking around naked and showing off her body, BUT she had NO QUALMS about showing EVERYONE IN THE HOUSE her KIDNEY STONE?

http://www.louisville.edu/~ejbrow01/wtf.gif

AND, why does she think she can just TALK ON THE PHONE FOR HOURS with her boyfriend to the exclusion of anyone else in the house who wanted to use the phone! She was giving Anissa crap when Anissa (rightfully) called her out for hogging the phone regularaly.

She's a selfish, whining, drama queen!!!

It ain't funny when the rabbit got the gun!!!
 

I loved how she had to suffer while someone else hogged the phone!

Yeah I still watch it too.
I'm also with you Urbane, I don't care that Tonya is sick and has medical bills. She makes me sick.I just want to beat her with my shoe. :mad:

Dang Kim....beat her with a shoe! :p
I still watch RW too. I know I can't stand Tonya either. She stays complaining about her illness. I mean granted, she is hurting and everything but I don't think I would be able to take her whining all of the time. :rolleyes: And NOT with the blood clot in the cup...OH HELL NAW! :o
And maybe it's me but WHY doesn't she go home??? And HC she doesn't have insurance...or at least trying to find a way to get some?? :confused:
I really think she is taking it overboard with this illness and just wants everyone to feel sorry for her. :mad:
Don't even let me start on the skinny depressed girl with the nympho(sp) problem .... :rolleyes:

Walla Walla is going to suffocate her boyfriend. She is too needy. Why in the he** did she audition for the RW when she knew she wanted to spend all her time with her boyfriend.

I also loved the scene when Aneesa was on the phone and gave her a taste of her own medicine.

Walla Walla definately needs therapy. If she says one more time that she is a foster child, someone needs to slap her. We all know that you had a bad childhood but know you are an adult and you have control of your life. Do something positive instead of feeling sorry for yourself.

"If no one is paying attention, i believe that the reason that there was a rush to get this season on the air becasue I think that it has to do with 9-11."

The RW Chicago wasn't filmed during the normal time of Jan thru the spring. It was taped starting in the summer thru the end of fall. So MTV has shown back to back seasons because they taped RW Chicago a couple of months after RW NY2.

RW Las Vegas is now filming until June and MTV will air episodes of that season sometime during the summer.

So I don't know if it there was a rush due to 9/11 to air back to back seasons. It may also have something to due with the timing of taping the season.

#7 Snuggles
DST - RVA 12/93

Okay, I hollered last night when Aneesa was on the phone and Tonya was complaining. Aneesa's friend on the phone was in the background saying stuff and I was just hollering. That chit was hilarious.

Tonya knows she is wrong for hogging the phone like that. If she needs to talk to Justin that often, then she needs to get a cell phone because there are other people in the house. The nerve of that girl to tell Aneesa's friend to call back because she was expecting a call from Justin. Too bad, so sad but my friend called first, now give me the phone.

I felt bad for Aneesa though. Like she said, now her birthday will always be associated with such a horrible act. She probably won't be able to truly celebrate her birthday for quite a few years.

Walla Walla was about 5 seconds away from an a$$ whuppin'. If I were Anessa, I would have put it down on that girl long ago. I haven't liked her from day one - when she met Theo and she said that her first thought was "he's black".

WTF????
 

Okay I don't know if I am the only one who checks out the MTV.com website about the Real World but if you don't and you are a TRUE RW addict you need to. Anyhow, I was reading the Cast Talks Back from Kyle and I see this:

:eek: :eek: :eek: What is REALLY going on?????? I pray to God that he is joking. If he's not, oh my. Theo should know better than that chit. http://www.plauder-smilies.de/nono.gif