The Ole Miss v. Vanderbilt Football Game in Nashville has been moved to Thursday, August 29 at 8:15 CT so it can be televised.

Other game schedules up thread have been updated.

I love this street name. :)

I wish I had a dime for every time I've heard people say Pounce instead of Ponce. Puts whole new meaning into the pouncing lion mascot!

For Greekchat to answer for PNMs and families. How much stock should a Potential New Member or her family put in information they get from Ole Miss Greek Affairs? What if the information on Greekchat conflicts with information from Ole Miss Greek Affairs or its publication the Angelia?

Honestly I think the way to go about it is to remember that Greek Affairs will tell you what you need to get A bid not necessarily the BEST bid for you.
They are pretty reliable about what to wear, grades to enter, and times, etc.

Greek chat has the benefit of being able to review what has happened over several years but lets face it most of us have been out of the game a while - we dont always know the latest change or what the cool kids are up to these days. (Unless of course you are an advisor at that school - props to MP. :). )

Think about it like a job interview and you want to put your best foot forward. Meetings that are labelled optional you should still try your best to attend. Minimum GPA is just that - minimum -thus not competitive.
Rec letter information is chapter specific so Greek Affairs cant really tell you for sure - if everyone on here is saying do your best to get letters know that to have the BEST chance of maximizing your invitations your need 1 LOR for each chapter

And here in Georgia, it's pronounced incorrectly. In Spanish, the explorer's name is pronounced, of course, PON-say day lay-AWNH. So when I moved here eons ago, I would be pronouncing it like that and the locals would fall over laughing and say, "No, we say PONSE dee LEE-on." And they do. Embarrassing when we have foreign visitors. Well, at least ADPi is on a street with "lion" in it!

Of course, in Georgia, the city of Martinez is pronounced MAR-ti-nez and Villa Rica isn't Vee-ya REE-ca, it's VILL-a RICK-a. :(

Mary Poppins, about all I can add to what HQWest says is the same thing that I say of all SEC schools: that many old-time Greeks have been stunned by the fabulous legacies who have been dropped by their legacy chapters. So-- legacies, make sure you have an open mind.

And Albany is All-BEN-y

P.S. Lafayette County, Mississippi is pronounced Lah-Fay-Yet.

Oh - don't get started on all the pronunciations of Lafayette in this country! Let's see, there are:

1) Le-FAY-it in Alabama
2) Laugh-fee-ette in English and La-FI-ette in French in Louisiana
3) The one above in MS
4) LA-fee-ette in Indiana
And there are probably others!

In New Orleans, the French street names have their own unique "Yat" pronunciation:

Burgundy = Bur-GUN-dee

Carondelet = Ca-ron-da-LETT

Chartres = Charters

Fontainebleau = Fountain Blue

Toulouse = TOO-looz

Yes, and I went to HS in St Louis where the French pronunciation prevails so have a hard time in NOLA! Which way to say it????????

There is Lafayette County in Florida and it is pronounced La-fee-ette.

Calliope = Callie-OH-p

Delachaise = Della-chase

Clouet = Clue-ette

Chartres = Char-terz

Just returned from a Ben Franklin High School Reunion in NOLA.

Or Terp-si-core.....

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You must have been in my sister, Anna's class!

I was adopted by '83 when I transferred in from Virginia in to the '82 class, so I attend back to back reunions. I couldn't find an Anna on the '83 attendee list, but found one on the '82.

My Anna was later than that. Her reunion must have been more informal, but she kept mentioning it on FB.

Because Franklin is such an endurance race from application to graduation, there is great bonding among the students. I wasn't the only crasher at the reunion, the class from '83 is super fun, and not as self impressed as my class. By the way, I died laughing when my half brother moved to New Orleans from Alabama, never having lived there before, and then met and married . . .

Wait for it . . .

A Franklin girl! She's like 15 years younger than me (he's 12 years younger) but she is a wonderful SIL and mother to my niece and nephew.

I feel like I know so much about Franklin because of Anna and another AOII sister from there. The only other HS in NO that I know about because of all the sisters from this school is Mt. Carmel.

Linguistic conflicts

I read an article today that reminded me of this thread. It's 22 maps that show the deepest linguistic conflicts in America.

Loved that article!

haha I read that too, and immediately thought of this GC thread!

Oxford Area NPC <oxfordareanpc@gmail.com>

Just a reminder that we will be meeting on Sunday, June 9, at 1:30pm at the Newk's on University Avenue, Oxford, Mississippi. The new campus Panhellenic Advisor will be in attendance so we hope you can make it!

Fraternally,
OANPC

Under the Greek Affairs web site is a FAQ that has the maximum disclosed information regarding grades: http://dos.orgsync.com/org/umgreeks/npcfaqs

http://www.olemiss.edu/aboutum/image...shmen-2012.png

Colony Recruitment information!

Really I thought someone would have been asking about this since Ole Miss has not had a colony since 1978, but maybe someone just needs to break the ice. Here below are some places you can look for information:

1) On the very first post in this thread you can find the Alpha Delta Pi Web Site for the colony.

2) Check these previous colony threads on Greekchat when you can:
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=96791
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ad.php?t=93202

3) And if you want more, you put this into your browser/search engine: "greekchat.com" colony colonization

4) And last, but not least, a recruitment story thread by a PNM about a recent Alpha Delta Pi Colony Recruitment: http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...d.php?t=131914

MP - do they not take SATs? (they = the Ole Miss admissions office)

And the red/yellow/green zone thing re grades is AWESOME.

Ole Miss thought it was cute that MP had taken the SAT but wanted her ACT scores. They haven't changed a thing.

Zone thing is cool, except they don't tell you what will make a Chapter take someone in the yellow zone as a new member, and so it can lead to a Yellow Zone PNM that needs to go through formal recruitment her Sophomore year to go through as a Freshman.

Does anyone recall the Ole Miss PNM mom who railed against the cruel sororities and more cruel Panhellenic that dropped her Yellow Zone GPA daughter after Philanthropy? It was because the Zone system gave the Mother and Daughter a sense of deniability about the less than 3.0 GPA.

It's that tension between Panhellenic inclusiveness (everyone will get a trophy) and the Chapters needing to have quality PNMs through their own Membership Selection. Just look at the Freshman Class Overall GPA in the graph posted (comes from the Ole Miss web site.) It kind of paints a picture doesn't it?

Interesting. I applied to 10 (I think, it's been a few years) colleges and not a one asked for ACT. I never even took it. Over here people rarely took it. It was rumored that those who took the ACT either were going to Harvard (or some special school) or did really poorly on the SAT. I wonder if it's an area difference or what. I applied all over the country, not just West coast schools.

According to my high school counselors in New Orleans, Southern Public Universities all wanted ACT, the Southern Private Universities wanted the SAT. They instructed us to take both.

I think it is. The only reason anyone at my HS ever took the ACT was in case you were thinking of applying to West Virginia U (they took it and not the SAT). The SAT was good pretty much everywhere else.

My high school only prepped for the SAT because that's what all the schools they fed wanted. No one went to Southern public schools. When I decided to come home and go to Alabama I had to rush out and find a place to take the ACT and never prepped for it at all. Took it totally cold about 10 days after deciding for Alabama. Surprised I managed to get in.

A lot of Georgia kids take both the SAT and ACT; mine all have. The schools they applied to took the higher score of either plus most of mine applied to AL or MS colleges as well as GA ones.

My children who were more of the math/science type did significantly better on the ACT, enough that it raised their equivalent SAT score as much as 200 points. Actually, my daughter who just graduated from high school made a 27 on her ACT and never bothered with the SAT after that.

As my daughter registered for recruitment last week, the following came up, in red, at the top of the page. Before you could proceed, you had to agree to the terms, just like an agreement you sign for internet purchases or services. It couldn't have been made more clear. Maybe the momma above put them over the edge.

Academic Requirements
There is currently no GPA requirement to participate in formal recruitment set by the University of Mississippi.

This does not, however, apply to the chapters' individual requirements to extent a bid. The chapter average to extend a bid is a 3.0 GPA. Women who have below a 3.0 GPA are advised that they are at a greater risk to be released from the process.

With the amount of women that go through the formal recruitment process, GPA tends to be an easy way for the chapters to begin to manage the numbers. Being released from recruitment or receiving a bid through the process is due to a wide variety of factors that are ultimately up to the chapters. GPA is only one of those factors, but there is much weight placed on GPA. To reiterate, women with below a 3.0 are at a greater risk of release. Women who have below a 3.0 GPA are advised to participate in the formal recruitment process the following year after taking a year to get acclimated to the University and achieving in the classroom.

That is pretty clear. Can GPA be switched out with letter of recommendation and be posted at the schools as well?

In the Ole Miss Panhllenic FAQ:

What is a letter of recommendation? Do I really need one?
• A recommendation is a personal letter of reference written by an alumnae member of a sorority to introduce a Potential New Member to her sorority. In the recommendation, the alumnae will write about your activities and talents so the sorority can get acquainted with you before recruitment begins.
• Recommendation letters are not required to go through recruitment. They are helpful in the recruitment process. You may send more than one letter of recommendation if you wish.
• DO NOT include transcripts or test scores with your recommendation letters. Sororities will receive your overall GPA before recruitment begins, therefore transcripts are not necessary. This includes not sending it to local Alumnae Panhellenic Associations or the sorority.

The red is an appropriate message for the Panhellenic to be providing, but I think it only tells half of the story as my previous posts here on recs would indicate. However I do like getting transcripts and test scores even if I do not send them on to the Chapter because it helps me write a more informative letter of reference (recommendation.) If a PNM struggled early in high school due to a death/divorce and then excelled at the end, I think the Chapter needs to know that. It could make the difference for the PNM. I've had mothers fail to tell me that there as a dip in grades due to a catastrophe, and I wouldn't have suspected a thing if I hadn't seen the transcript.

Surely you don't mean this! Post a rec at the school????

No no no! I was thinking of the one school that said that not having recs would not effect one's recruitment in anyway. I want to say it was FSU, but I can't be sure now. Somewhere where everyone thought that panhellenic had overstepped boundaries with their statement regarding letters.

I was thinking:

"There is currently no requirement to have letters of recommendation to participate in formal recruitment set by the University of Mississippi.
This does not, however, apply to the chapters' individual requirements to extent a bid."

Something quick and simple like that.

I do like how this is posted and agree with the second part of the post as well.

I went to WVU (enrolled in 2003) and never took the ACT. None of my WVU friends did either. I had one high school friend take it (in Maryland) but that was only because she received a really low SAT score.