Clearly. That statement is as ludicrous as me saying NC is conservative. As far as I can tell, unless you have some great expertise that even the history books don't have, South Carolina is in the South. 21 years of being in a southern state. Now maybe you don't think South Carolina is a southern state. Or maybe you think its not "very" conservative. Or maybe you don't think it was the first to secede, or maybe you think it doesn't possess anti-civil union bylaws. Who knows. I love the claims about knowing that someone has clearly NEVER been to a southern state. SMH...

I'm confused. Aren't you guys agreeing?

And yes, when big schools change athletic conferences, the makeup of the school does change. It definitely happened at Penn State.

And that will be right. If you are going to sound like a pompous ass you should at least know what you are talking about.

Absolutely right, that would be unconstitutional wouldn't it. Correction, the state of SC will not recognize a civil union as a marriage. I can't believe SC thinks marriage is between a man and a woman, how ridiculous.

Marriage=/= civil union. But my point was that states do not have bylaws. And you want to talk unconstitutional? States that won't recognize marriages from other states.

His point is that when you said this:

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Originally Posted by alphatausc (Post 2118521) . . . or maybe you think it doesn't possess anti-civil union bylaws.

you show you don't really know what you're talking about. South Carolina doesn't have any bylaws. In this country, only organizations have bylaws.

South Carolina has a constitutional provision that says the state doesn't recognize same-sex marriages or civil unions.

Glad the education is working out for you.

Sir, you can regurgitate a list of southern states and a probable list of fraternities that may be popular at universities in those states, but that does not in any way make you an expert on the South. We can't be defined by a sum of our parts. I take it now that I read your name wrong and you're not from Southern California. I apologize for assuming otherwise, but I got you mixed up with the guy asking Alpha Phi to colonize at CSU-LA. You may know South Carolina, but what else do you know. I barely count USC as SEC anyway since it's not an original member so I don't count your opinion of what an "SEC" school would be like. Non-SEC southern schools are not all the same. Thank God. Have your own opinion, but realize that when people say that they KNOW gay men in southern fraternities...they know something that obviously you don't.

Let me chime in right here... I was born and reared in Mississippi, I am an openly gay man in a fraternity, in Mississippi (which is probably the most conservative state in the USA). Although I'm not at a SEC school now I was at Mississippi State (before I transferred). At State, I was openly gay and was offered a bid by several (4) fraternities.... Sigma Nu, Kappa Alpha, SAE and Sigma Chi. Also, I would not have been the first openly gay guy on frat row....in addition to who knows how many closeted guys.

So, alphatausc, please get off your high horse as you do not speak for everyone in the south and are simply spewing your own bigoted hate. Also, it's that type of hate that hurts your brothers, because maybe they're gay and aren't comfortable with their sexuality yet, or they're not simply because they hear that from you all the time.

Don't you know it never happened? He knows more than you do all the way over there in S. Carolina bc he just knows. Thanks for adding more confirmation to what has been SAI, "Every chapter is different. Some may not take a gay may, but some may have no problem at all...even at an SEC school."

JDCookMS, thank you for your insight. You are a scholar and a gentleman.

Kappa Sigma - Founded in the same state as the Lexington Triad (UVA). Not as big as Sigma Phi Epsilon or Sigma Chi but by some accounts/measurements 3rd, 4th or 5th. We are definitely larger than your "Big 4". Incidently, Sigma Phi Epsilon is a "southern Fraternity" too (University of Richmond). Pi Kappa Phi is also "southern" (College of Charleston). Let's not forget about Pi Kappa Alpha either (UVA). Bottom line is there are really very few "southern" Fraternities as we are all fairly national in scope with chapters in most every region.

Haha... yeah, I'm definitely glad that someone informed me that my experience never happened, otherwise I might have made the mistake of believing it. Now, I'm not saying they didn't have any ulterior motives... when I went through Rush I was one of a handful of independents on our Senate and also had like half of sorority row on speed dial. ... but, I consider that part of my contribution to the fraternity, plus I would never set a woman up with a douchebag.