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MysticCat 09-21-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusteau (Post 2093477)
It would probably be easier to list which don't. Delta Chi uses Associate Member officially, and I believe Lambda Chi Alpha does as well. I was also under the impression that Phi Delta Theta pledges were called Phikea, but that might just be the name for the pin. Of course all of the NPHC/NIC groups would also fall into this category.

There's a "What do you call your pledges/new members/whatever" thread somewhere..

I know that Sigma Nu uses "candidates."


ETA: This may be the thread I'm thinking of: What do you call your Pledges?

ETA again: No, I know there's a more recent one. Can't find it though.

NutBrnHair 09-21-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2093447)
I wonder if yours are Pearls for the same reason ours are. ;)

Only Ida Shaw Martin knows?!

ElieM 09-21-2011 11:38 PM

Do the groups that have 'pearls' then end up with 'baby pearls'?

BraveMaroon 09-22-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ElieM (Post 2093668)
Do the groups that have 'pearls' then end up with 'baby pearls'?

Wouldn't a baby pearl technically be a grain of sand?

ElieM 09-22-2011 12:29 AM

sand or grit... would they then be "baby grits"? "Sandy babies"?

ASTalumna06 09-22-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ElieM (Post 2093688)
sand or grit... would they then be "baby grits"? "Sandy babies"?

ichuckled.

33girl 09-22-2011 09:32 AM

You silly geese. Pearls are pearls. Our chapters that use "baby" say "baby bugs" as in ladybugs.

I think that the rushees would be grains of sand. There are many of them on the beach, but only a lucky few get to become pearls. :D

AOIIalum 09-22-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 2093403)
We're just New Members, Collegians and Alumnae. I've seen some chapters use Pandas or occasionally Baby Pandas for new members. We have one chapter that calls themselves Angels, so I know they use Baby Angels. Back in the day, my Great to the 5th Grand Big Sis called all of her family members "Baby Pi". We called her Granny Pi. That's as far as Baby went, and it was a localized term of endearment.

Sadly, and maybe it's just my area of the country, I see way too many "Baby Pandas" to count, let alone "Baby Whatevers" for the other chapters at a particular school. It drives me crazy, because college women are not babies in any way.

Personally, I'd rather be a Pledge than a Baby any day of the week.

amIblue? 09-22-2011 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2093757)
You silly geese. Pearls are pearls. Our chapters that use "baby" say "baby bugs" as in ladybugs.

I think that the rushees would be grains of sand. There are many of them on the beach, but only a lucky few get to become pearls. :D

If the rushees are grains of sand, who/what is the oyster spit? Recruitment?

AlphaFrog 09-22-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by amIblue? (Post 2093768)
If the rushees are grains of sand, who/what is the oyster spit? Recruitment?

Phoenix degree. That's when they officially become Pearls. :)

BraveMaroon 09-22-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2093757)
You silly geese. Pearls are pearls. Our chapters that use "baby" say "baby bugs" as in ladybugs.

I think that the rushees would be grains of sand. There are many of them on the beach, but only a lucky few get to become pearls. :D

It takes irritation and tears, but eventually, the grains of sand become pearls.

So rush/recruitment is the process that turns sand into pearls.

NinjaPoodle 09-22-2011 05:44 PM

I attended SFSU Bid Day last week and saw this:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...34087143_n.jpg
btw, I'm the photographer

AlphaFrog 09-22-2011 05:47 PM

^^With gams being sort of a sexualized slang for legs, I find this very wrong.

NinjaPoodle 09-22-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2093865)
^^With gams being sort of a sexualized slang for legs, I find this very wrong.

ouch.

agzg 09-22-2011 06:09 PM

Oh my God. Who told them they could wear their squirrel suits out in public?! :eek:

thetaj 09-22-2011 06:14 PM

No new member I've ever met has seemed to care about being called a baby _____.

DeltaBetaBaby 09-22-2011 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 2093863)
I attended SFSU Bid Day last week and saw this:
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...34087143_n.jpg
btw, I'm the photographer

That thing on the right creeps me out.

33girl 09-22-2011 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2093770)
Phoenix degree. That's when they officially become Pearls. :)

We HAVE to get this to catch on. "Okay girls, oyster spit at 9 PM Sunday...be there or else!!"

NinjaPoodle 09-22-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2093871)
Oh my God. Who told them they could wear their squirrel suits out in public?! :eek:

lol, they've been doing it for a few bid days now. It's cute in theory..?

NinjaPoodle 09-22-2011 08:06 PM

I scrolled through my pics and found the decapitated squirrel. Hope it makes you feel a bit better. :)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...44431363_n.jpg



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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 2093871)
Oh my God. Who told them they could wear their squirrel suits out in public?! :eek:

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby (Post 2093875)
That thing on the right creeps me out.


thetaj 09-22-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle (Post 2093904)
I scrolled through my pics and found the decapitated squirrel. Hope it makes you feel a bit better. :)
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...44431363_n.jpg

this picture made me LOL hard

gee_ess 09-23-2011 05:16 PM

At Arkansas, the use of "baby___" is rampant. It is relatively new (along with the popularity of intricate handsigns, PULEEZE) and I think the pledges kind of like it. It is used endearingly, "We love our baby Kappas" and seems to be a bit of an ego thing for older members to say.

If the use of the word "pledge" and other related terms (pledge mom/pledge daughter) were eliminated because it was derogatory, then I think "baby" just topped that list.

Actually, I do not think the use of the word 'baby' is terrible - because if you do away with it, then older members will still find a word that conveys the relationship of older/newer membership. "Baby" is endearing in their eyes.

amIblue? 09-23-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gee_ess (Post 2094163)
"Baby" is endearing in their eyes.

When my daughter was a newborn, I would call her my little baby burrito when she was all swaddled up. I don't think that she's going to like that when she's 18.

Then again, it might not be the "baby" part that she would find so objectionable.

honeychile 09-23-2011 07:52 PM

While I was still advising the local chapter, it would amaze me how many rewards, names, and such were extremely juvenile. I can remember the meeting when I knew I wouldn't be an advisor the next year. After quibbling about whether or not Bigelow Blvd should be made student only, the Housing Chair gave out Baby Lion awards for those who did their dishes. Neither had been mentioned during Exec. I asked these 18-22 years old sisters how they expected to cope with life if they couldn't cross a street (oh, the horror!), then the mean advisor, after seeing these goofy awards handed out, asked them if they knew what happens if they do their job once they starting working a real job. They looked at me quizzically, and I responded, "You get to come back the next day!"

And shortly afterwards, I was taken to the detox tank for recovering advisors....

amIblue? 09-23-2011 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 2094187)
I asked these 18-22 years old sisters how they expected to cope with life if they couldn't cross a street (oh, the horror!), then the mean advisor, after seeing these goofy awards handed out, asked them if they knew what happens if they do their job once they starting working a real job. They looked at me quizzically, and I responded, "You get to come back the next day!"

I heart you. :D

There was a training program at a former employer of mine for new college graduates. It was so fun watching them figure out how to navigate the work world. No Baby Lions, Tigers, or Bears (oh my!) were awarded for competence.

prettyv 09-24-2011 02:14 AM

This is huge on my campus. I avoid it... although the thought of saying "Thetartots" makes me happy inside.

DubaiSis 09-24-2011 03:07 AM

I heard once that the only thing you do in your first year of work after college is learn how to work. My first job out of college was working at Club Med, which is a WHOLE different thing to learn. But my first real job was working at a huge publishing, media, owns everything type of company. And I think that really is what they taught me... amazing customer service skills and how to just show up and do your friggin job. It was full to popping with drama, and as soon as I was over all that it was time for me to move on. And I think that's how college life works. You go in unknowing and over the 4 years you get yourself into everything, some good, some bad, and just about the time you're ready to star in your own sorority girl massacre movie, you graduate and move onto other things.

gee_ess 09-24-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 2094273)
I heard once that the only thing you do in your first year of work after college is learn how to work. My first job out of college was working at Club Med, which is a WHOLE different thing to learn. But my first real job was working at a huge publishing, media, owns everything type of company. And I think that really is what they taught me... amazing customer service skills and how to just show up and do your friggin job. It was full to popping with drama, and as soon as I was over all that it was time for me to move on. And I think that's how college life works. You go in unknowing and over the 4 years you get yourself into everything, some good, some bad, and just about the time you're ready to star in your own sorority girl massacre movie, you graduate and move onto other things.

Love this!

33girl 09-24-2011 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gee_ess (Post 2094163)
At Arkansas, the use of "baby___" is rampant. It is relatively new (along with the popularity of intricate handsigns, PULEEZE) and I think the pledges kind of like it. It is used endearingly, "We love our baby Kappas" and seems to be a bit of an ego thing for older members to say.

If the use of the word "pledge" and other related terms (pledge mom/pledge daughter) were eliminated because it was derogatory, then I think "baby" just topped that list.

Actually, I do not think the use of the word 'baby' is terrible - because if you do away with it, then older members will still find a word that conveys the relationship of older/newer membership. "Baby" is endearing in their eyes.

If they're using it in that way, it IS derogatory and verging on hazing.

I say officially go back to pledge. I never met anyone who minded it, but I can think of LOTS of my sisters who would have never put up with "baby" and laughed outright at the clinical-ness of "new member." (Bringing out "new member" at the height of Beavis and Butt-Head? Seriously people, not a good idea here.)

AZTheta 09-24-2011 10:52 AM

So many good quotes in the last couple of pages, and so many great laugh-out-loud moments.

Coping with life: always interesting how these young women think that they can ask me for a letter of recommendation, after some of the **** they pull. And I watch these "babies" go out in the world and not even get a toe hold in the work place. Then I wonder who's mean. Being accountable does matter.

Bottom line: it is what it is (ridiculousness), it'll be replaced by something else (of that I'm sure), and I cried when I saw the squirrel head unceremoniously abandoned on the lawn. *sniff* The least they could have done is to close his/her eyes.

RaggedyAnn 09-26-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2093079)
As far as I know, ASA pledges have been Pearls loooooooooong before the 90's, whether they were commonly referred to as such or not.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 2093134)
I thought we weren't allowed to say just Pearls anymore. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=33girl;2093136]There was no usage of Pearl until after at least the 1994 convention, or it might have been 1996. It definitely wasn't used when I was an active.
QUOTE]

It was the 1994/5 year when they revamped and reissued the Encounter that the term pledges was changed to Pearl. I was active at the time.

The appropriate term now is New Member; Pearl is considered slang. Active is also not used, and has been replaced by Collegian or Collegiate Member.

33girl 09-26-2011 07:56 PM

So Pearl Members is out too?

And I do know we're (along w/ everyone else) not supposed to use active, and I usually don't, I was just lazy. :)


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