GreekChat.com Forums

GreekChat.com Forums (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/index.php)
-   Chit Chat (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/forumdisplay.php?f=185)
-   -   Cyberbullying (https://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=116372)

DrPhil 10-22-2010 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1996751)
I don't consider it real cyberbullying when you can clearly leave a website like GC and not return (or come back as someone different, which folks do on here all the time) and you don't know most or any of the folks in real life. On the other hand, when people have your email, home phone number and/or address, or you're on a school or job site and you actually know the people and have to see them in real life, that's something different entirely.

How many flouncers have come back with a different name? Do they reinvent themselves and/or avoid those who pick on them?

rhoyaltempest 10-22-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1994104)
I'd be interested in seeing others' thoughts.

I was never bullied, never was a bully, and I have a very "hard" exterior, so I'm probably not a good person to ask lol I can understand why bullying sucks, but I still don't fully "get it" when it comes to adults.

Now that I think of it, when I referred to "social media spillover" earlier in this thread, I was referring more to stalking. "Bullying" (as I know it) shouldn't affect grown folks (I know that this is definitely not the case, but I can't fully wrap my mind around it).

So no one ever picked on you in school? Really? And I don't know why it's so hard for you to imagine adults being bullied. In abusive relationships for example, aren't the victims being bullied? Being bullied has no age limit.

rhoyaltempest 10-22-2010 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1996753)
How many flouncers have come back with a different name? Do they reinvent themselves and/or avoid those who pick on them?

How many are actually being picked on though? In most cases, when the OP stops the foolishness and doesn't carry it into a different thread, the issue is forgotten about and GC folks move on rather quickly from what I've seen. It's only when the OP keeps things going and engages in a back and forth (clearly not being a victim), that the foolishness continues.

DrPhil 10-22-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1996755)
How many are actually being picked on though? In most cases, when the OP stops the foolishness and doesn't carry it into a different thread, the issue is forgotten about and GC folks move on rather quickly from what I've seen. It's only when the OP keeps things going and engages in a back and forth (clearly not being a victim), that the foolishness continues.

I don't know because I don't click on every thread and don't pay attention to the threads that I do click on unless something entertains me. :)

But, my post wasn't rhetorical. LOL. I was really asking you to tell me more about those who come back under a new name. Do they try to create a new identity and/or avoid those who had been messing with them?

knight_shadow 10-22-2010 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1996754)
So no one ever picked on you in school? Really? And I don't know why it's so hard for you to imagine adults being bullied. In abusive relationships for example, aren't the victims being bullied? Being bullied has no age limit.

1. When I think "bullying," I think of it as a recurring event (John Doe gets picked on every day when he walks into school). Sure, I have seen people give me looks (beginning of HS, as I was "the new kid -- never before that and not during the end of HS), but because of my body type and demeanor, it never went beyond that.

2. I wasn't thinking in term of domestic abuse. I was thinking bullying in social settings. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around HOW adults let themselves get bullied (read: social situations), but I don't deny that it happens. If we're throwing domestic abuse into the equation, then I agree, bullying has no age limit.

knight_shadow 10-22-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1996762)
There's always someone bigger and badder. I could whoop knight_shadow's ass. LOL. Not really.

LOL -- I guess I'm lucky that person never found me

rhoyaltempest 10-22-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1996762)
There's always someone bigger and badder. I could whoop knight_shadow's ass. LOL. Not really.

I'm more intrigued by the supposed body type and demeanor (especially as a youngin) that would stop others from whooping his ass.

knight_shadow 10-23-2010 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1996832)
I'm more intrigued by the supposed body type and demeanor (especially as a youngin) that would stop others from whooping his ass.

:confused:

What exactly are you trying to get at? Are you trying to break down my walls and get to my core so I can admit that I TRULY got bullied?

Yes, people get picked on from time to time. No, it doesn't always translate into bullying.

AlphaFrog 10-23-2010 07:52 AM

Just saw this article pop up on my email homescreen, and it made me wonder... Are kids more sensitive to bullying now BECAUSE their parents go and fight every battle for them?

When I was in Jr. High, I was not a small girl (looking back at pictures, I wasn't huge, like I was lead to believe, but most definitely NOT small). Some girls called my house when I wasn't home and left a chorus of them repeating "Jellyroll, JELLYroll, jellyROLL, JELLYROLL", over and over. Being that it was on the answering machine, my parents heard it. Then, they deleted it and pretty much told me to get over it, because there are always going to be THOSE people in life, and you have to learn to deal with it. I feel like I'm a stronger person than I would have been if they WOULD have stepped in every time something like that happened.


PS...after starting a major life change diet over 2 years ago, I HIT MY GOAL WEIGHT THIS MORNING!! I have lost 112 lbs.

/major tangent

James 10-23-2010 10:38 AM

Good for you Alpha Frog. Losing a 112 pounds is like being a different person. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1996988)
Just saw this article pop up on my email homescreen, and it made me wonder... Are kids more sensitive to bullying now BECAUSE their parents go and fight every battle for them?

When I was in Jr. High, I was not a small girl (looking back at pictures, I wasn't huge, like I was lead to believe, but most definitely NOT small). Some girls called my house when I wasn't home and left a chorus of them repeating "Jellyroll, JELLYroll, jellyROLL, JELLYROLL", over and over. Being that it was on the answering machine, my parents heard it. Then, they deleted it and pretty much told me to get over it, because there are always going to be THOSE people in life, and you have to learn to deal with it. I feel like I'm a stronger person than I would have been if they WOULD have stepped in every time something like that happened.


PS...after starting a major life change diet over 2 years ago, I HIT MY GOAL WEIGHT THIS MORNING!! I have lost 112 lbs.

/major tangent


SWTXBelle 10-23-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1996988)
PS...after starting a major life change diet over 2 years ago, I HIT MY GOAL WEIGHT THIS MORNING!! I have lost 112 lbs.

/major tangent

Way to go, AlphaFrog! That's fantastic. :D

KSUViolet06 10-23-2010 02:49 PM

Wow. That's amazing, AlphaFrog.

Lasonja 10-24-2010 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1991532)
I know one thing, the internet thuggery is out of control (not sure if that's the same as cyberbullying). You know the ones that have so much to say via the internet but would never have the guts to say such things to anyone's face. The internet is giving many cowards a voice that otherwise wouldn't be heard (especially racists and bigots).:mad:

I agree with this. The Dr. Phil show talked about this topic. Dr. Phil said that it's basically people who need to vent, pissed off at the world, or whatever, so they'll use the internet to take it out on people who might be easy to mess with. He said that people who cyberbully have some unresolved issues, and I'll take it one step further. People who bully people period, have some unresolved issues. For the times I've posted on here, I have seen certain people get picked on, but I wouldn't call it cyberbullying because you can either close the browser, use the ignore feature, not respond, or just talk the same shit back. If it's just as easy for the cyberbully, then it should be just as easy for the person being bullied. This is a good topic.

honeychile 10-24-2010 11:44 AM

Congratulations to you, AlphaFrog!

Billy_Optimist 10-24-2010 09:07 PM

Congratulations AlphaFrogy!!

Lasonja 10-25-2010 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1997252)
Nope. If douchenozzles are bothering me here, I go find something else to do. If douchenozzles are harassing their middle school classmate, he/she still has to face them on a daily basis.

No, I'll find something else to do when I get good and ready to, not because somebody else is talking shit to me. When I was in middle school, if somebody was harassing me, I would just flat out beat their ass. Point blank.

It always seems to stop after a good ass kicking. I never was the one to get punked by anybody.

christiangirl 10-25-2010 08:29 AM

re: Adult Bullying

I think bullying does exist in adulthood but we over-18s call it harassment. Kids tell the teacher, adults tell the police.

knight_shadow 10-25-2010 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1997576)
:rolleyes:
Ooh internet tough guy.

Dear lord, you sound like my clients. They'd rather go back to prison than lose 'face' and get 'punked.'

Well, she DID say "when I was in middle school"

Why is it hard to believe that people can and do stand up for themselves? Not everyone has been a victim of bullying (general statement, not directed at you DF).

Alumiyum 10-25-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1997594)
Well, she DID say "when I was in middle school"

Why is it hard to believe that people can and do stand up for themselves? Not everyone has been a victim of bullying (general statement, not directed at you DF).

My point was middle school to adulthood, retaliating isn't an option for everyone and doesn't always scare off bullies...it can sometimes make the situation worse. My personal opinion is to avoid violence unless it's directly in self defense from physical bodily harm.

knight_shadow 10-25-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1997641)
My point was middle school to adulthood, retaliating isn't an option for everyone and doesn't always scare off bullies...it can sometimes make the situation worse. My personal opinion is to avoid violence unless it's directly in self defense from physical bodily harm.

Sometimes, you have to do what you have to do *shrugs*

I don't think adults should be threatening to whoop someone's ass, but if it comes down to it -- so be it.

Alumiyum 10-25-2010 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1997645)
Sometimes, you have to do what you have to do *shrugs*

I don't think adults should be threatening to whoop someone's ass, but if it comes down to it -- so be it.

Each to his own. My main point was that it isn't always that simple.

knight_shadow 10-25-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1997646)
Each to his own. My main point was that it isn't always that simple.

Right. And my point was that sometimes, it is :)

Alumiyum 10-25-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1997659)
Right. And my point was that sometimes, it is :)

Fair enough

AlphaFrog 10-25-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum
I

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow
must

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum
have

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow
the

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum
last

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow
word.

Seriously, you two are as bad as Dr. Phil and I when we get going.

knight_shadow 10-25-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1997664)
Seriously, you two are as bad as Dr. Phil and I when we get going.

Oooooor we're still having discussions ;)

Honestly, I just typed that so that I could have the last word.

MysticCat 10-25-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1996988)
PS...after starting a major life change diet over 2 years ago, I HIT MY GOAL WEIGHT THIS MORNING!! I have lost 112 lbs.

/major tangent

So that's two reasons for Yays for you!!

Congrats!!!

AlphaFrog 10-25-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1997667)
So that's two reasons for Yays for you!!

Congrats!!!

I think one has a lot to do with the other... Let's face it...for every Tracy Turnblad, Bridget Jones and Kathy Bates, there are a thousand Millie Dilmonts, Erin Brachovichs, and Kate Hudsons.

I had a teacher once say that auditions are like grocery shopping...if the shopper is looking for carrots, you could be the best celery ever, but you're not getting picked. Well, I'm finally a carrot.

DrPhil 10-25-2010 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 1997664)
Seriously, you two are as bad as Dr. Phil and I when we get going.

No. Unlike Alumiyum and knight_shadow, you think you can both initiate and end a back-and-forth; and you haven't learned that you can only control when you stop typing.

AlphaFrog 10-25-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1997674)
No. Unlike Alumiyum and knight_shadow, you think you can both initiate and end a back-and-forth; and you haven't learned that you can only control when you stop typing.

I haven't? I didn't realize that controlling others was an option in the first place. If I had, I would have just gone straight for your off button.

Lasonja 10-25-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1997561)
Good for you. First, that's not an option for everyone. Second, not everyone feels violence is the answer. And third, that won't always stop harassment and sometimes retaliation can make things even worse. Bullying is serious, and is not the same thing as someone being a dick in a messageboard.

Either way, if somebody disrespects me on or off a message board they will get dealt with. How I choose to do that is on me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1997576)
:rolleyes:
Ooh internet tough guy.

Dear lord, you sound like my clients. They'd rather go back to prison than lose 'face' and get 'punked.'

No, you just have some dumb clients.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1997620)
:)

I agree. We type and read when we want to. We don't when we don't want to.

Thank you.

knight_shadow 10-25-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drolefille (Post 1997733)
Standing up for one's self isn't the same thing as "kicking their ass." It's the difference between passive/assertive/aggressive. Odds are, k_s you experienced isolated incidents of "bullying" but because of how it was handled on your part or the part of others it never became a pattern. (And you stated you had a few individual things said.) That's not really shocking, I'm not sure why others are so incredulous.

Maybe it's just semantics, but I see bullying as a pattern of getting picked on. I don't think one or two incidents = bullying. Also, my parents were military, so I've been in military settings for my entire life. Kids acted out from time to time, but fear of getting caught by your parents or someone in their unit(s) stopped them from going too far. That, along with my attitude and build, is why I think I wasn't bullied.

And yeah, ass kicking isn't always the answer, but sometimes it is an answer.

Drolefille 10-25-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1997738)
Maybe it's just semantics, but I see bullying as a pattern of getting picked on. I don't think one or two incidents = bullying. Also, my parents were military, so I've been in military settings for my entire life. Kids acted out from time to time, but fear of getting caught by your parents or someone in their unit(s) stopped them from going too far. That, along with my attitude and build, is why I think I wasn't bullied.

And yeah, ass kicking isn't always the answer, but sometimes it is an answer.

And that's a fine interpretation, I'm sure people who study bullying have technical definitions and all, but that's kind of how I think about it too.

And yeah I'd suspect the military setting, for some people at least, results in less harassment for kids. I can see other individuals not fitting in/having the support of parents/etc.

And sure, violence is 'an answer' but when someone sees it as their first and necessary option - "I'm not going to let them punk me." - versus "it was the last straw and I had to do something" or even if it was a singular situation.

I'm not even exaggerating when I say it's the same attitude as my clients have. Hell we had a discussion about pride bringing you down today in group. (And they started it, I'm so proud of them.)

DrPhil 03-29-2011 03:13 PM

This deserves a bump.

LOL @ AlphaFrog and me

You ever had a back and forth with a username that you knew was a really silly back and forth; and you don't know what either of you is talking about? LOL.

AlphaFrog 03-29-2011 03:38 PM

Way to make me depressed about gaining back 10 of those 112#. You're such a meanie.:(


By the way, I still have no clue why bullying is such a big deal now. We all went through it and managed to survive without the Jonas Brothers PSAs telling us that bullying is wrong.

DrPhil 03-29-2011 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog (Post 2042087)
Way to make me depressed about gaining back 10 of those 112#. You're such a meanie.:(


By the way, I still have no clue why bullying is such a big deal now. We all went through it and managed to survive without the Jonas Brothers PSAs telling us that bullying is wrong.

My bad, shawty. ;)

The media, including the Internet, makes everything seem like a bigger deal than it is. The reality is that it was also a "big deal" when we were kids. I don't remember if there were PSAs on TV but we had a few school assemblies about people who were picking on others. Some things are kids being kids but it's up to adults to minimize the impact of it all.

The bullying when we were kids would've been different if we had cellphones and the Internet.

PiKA2001 03-29-2011 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2042131)
The bullying when were kids would've been different if we had cellphones and the Internet.

Very true and I do believe that its more prevalent now than when I was a kid. Between texting, t-witter and FB bullying can now happen 24/7 instead of just during school hours.

DrPhil 03-29-2011 06:32 PM

Yeah the Internet generation is doomed for many reasons including cyberbullying. I won't go on my Internet generation rant. :p

knight_shadow 03-29-2011 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 2042135)
Very true and I do believe that its more prevalent now than when I was a kid. Between texting, t-witter and FB bullying can now happen 24/7 instead of just during school hours.

Bullying still had the potential to be 24/7 even before all of the social media sites.

I remember seeing/hearing about people following others home and/or jumping them before/after school. There just seems to be more keyboard courage these days.

knight_shadow 03-29-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 2042143)
That isn't 24/7. LOL.

OK, 14/7 lol I doubt FBers and T_witterers are online 168 hours per week ;)

My point was that bullying occurred outside of school hours.

DrPhil 03-29-2011 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2042145)
OK, 14/7 lol I doubt FBers and T_witterers are online 168 hours per week ;)

These kids are online 168 hours a week. These stupid phones give them access to everything while they are in class, in the car, at the dinner table...I HATE IT and I love that teachers/professors are prohibiting some of the access.

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 2042145)
My point was that bullying occurred outside of school hours.

Yes, it did. :)


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.