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PiKA2001 06-29-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1948848)
^^^Dr. Phil to be honest that wasn't a direct response to him but more as a joke to share with everyone else. He keeps ASSuming that I think Rihanna's music is fierce (I said her style was NOT her music) and that all I listen to is Lady Gaga. He keeps making sweeping assumptions and yes that is annoying, but my last comment was pretty much to everyone else and not him. I follow the philosophy of a wise man arguing with a fool to the T and know when to quit. He's music Buddha in his own mind, and that's just fine with me.

Now you are the one ASSuming.

ASTalumna06 06-29-2010 04:22 PM

PiKA, I think the point is that there’s nothing TRULY new about music today, and not that there isn’t any other music out there besides the 20 top songs that are played on the radio 24 hours a day.

The second half of the last century brought a lot of things to music that people had never really seen or heard before…

KISS, with their crazy makeup and outfits.. The Beatles, the first true boy band that girls went CRAZY for… Queen, which needs no explanation. There were songs that people loved that were more than 10 minutes long (and in some cases, much longer). There was the creation of rock ‘n roll, Motown, disco, rap, hip hop, R&B and grunge… and crazy guitar riffs that most people only wish they could play. Woodstock.. need I say more? (I could go on and on with this list...)

The point is, years and years later, people still LOVE the music of those 50 years or so. Hell, I love that music, and I’m not even old enough to have been able to truly live most of it.

It almost seems as though there's nothing new to create.

In 20 years, what “classics” will still be playing on the radio from this generation?

ASTalumna06 06-29-2010 04:23 PM

(Wow, sorry if my font is crazy, but I'm at work and can't edit it!)

agzg 06-29-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1948848)
^^^Dr. Phil to be honest that wasn't a direct response to him but more as a joke to share with everyone else. He keeps ASSuming things based one sentences that are unrelated. Like that I think Rihanna's music is fierce (I said her style was NOT her music) and that all I listen to is Lady Gaga. He keeps making sweeping assumptions and yes that is annoying, but my last comment was pretty much to everyone else and not him. He's music Buddha in his own mind, and that's just fine with me.

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1948854)
Now you are the one ASSuming.

To the corner, both of you.

BluPhire 06-29-2010 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1948862)


The Beatles, the first true boy band that girls went CRAZY for…

Umm excuse me?????

** adding gas to the fire, but serious none the less**

DrPhil 06-29-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 1948875)
Umm excuse me?????

** adding gas to the fire, but serious none the less**

:p I was going to say The Temptations but they were also founded in 1960. The Beatles beat them in terms of mainstream success but I love The Temptations more and listen to their greatest hits almost everyday.

There were boy bands before 1960 that I loved but none that received the mainstream critical acclaim and notoriety (even generations later) that The Beatles received.

Alumiyum 06-29-2010 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001 (Post 1948783)
But don't think of them as the best that's out there, or that they are popular because they are actually really talented. I think this topic is getting muddled by different points, I jumped in to talk about artists altering their music for mass appeal and the so called dying music industry.

I like watching films that make me think...sometimes. I occasionally flip to the Sundance channel when using my parent's house for their digital cable. But a lot of the time movies are escapism for me, and I LIKE watching stupid, pointless movies that make me laugh or feel good for two hours without much effort. Same with music. There's a place for "selling out"...it's entertainment and that doesn't make it less valid than "indie" music. My iPhone has music that is completely across the board and I listen to all of it, from local bands to Gaga. Art isn't just about angst and drama, it's also about effecting a reaction in the consumer and I never have and probably never will understand why just making people happy isn't as important as making them scream about their dark inner angst.

BluPhire 06-29-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1948882)
:p I was going to say The Temptations but they were also founded in 1960. The Beatles beat them in terms of mainstream success but I love The Temptations more and listen to their greatest hits almost everyday.

There were boy bands before 1960 that I loved but none that received the mainstream critical acclaim and notoriety (even generations later) that The Beatles received.

True. I was just starting something.

As for the Beatles v Temptations, it was pretty close. British invasion was in December 63, and Temps had their big hit in January 64.

ASTalumna06 06-29-2010 04:52 PM

BluPhire... if I missed another group, please inform me!

The Beatles are just that classic boy band that I'll always picture getting off of planes with screaming girls around them (and everything DrPhil said).

And they were so much cuter than the boy bands of today! :)

ASTalumna06 06-29-2010 04:52 PM

^^ Ok, that answers it! haha

DrPhil 06-29-2010 04:55 PM

Ringo Starr FTW.

BluPhire 06-30-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06 (Post 1948893)
^^ Ok, that answers it! haha


Yeah don't mind me I was just starting something since some other people are fighting over trivial things.

LOL

33girl 06-30-2010 07:30 PM

I finally heard the stupid song that inspired this stupid thread. I don't think it has anything to do with Lady Gaga. :confused:

flowerpower83 07-06-2010 05:11 PM

It is the copy of her style. Gaga copied the big cone boobs from Madonna and now Katy Perry is doing it because the industry thinks wild outfits make you more popular! Katy Perry described herself as a confident girl from next door and then she wears blue hair? Just a major sell out!!

33girl 07-06-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by flowerpower83 (Post 1951225)
It is the copy of her style. Gaga copied the big cone boobs from Madonna and now Katy Perry is doing it because the industry thinks wild outfits make you more popular! Katy Perry described herself as a confident girl from next door and then she wears blue hair? Just a major sell out!!

lots of girls next door have blue hair these days. Get out of 1974 silly heffa.

epchick 08-07-2010 12:47 AM

So apparently someone, on the behalf of the Beach Boys, is talking about suing Katy Perry if she doesn't hand over royalties for her song "California Gurls."

Apparently because Snoop says "I wish they all could be California Girls" that they automatically stole their ideas from the Beach Boys.

Seriously? So whenever someone says that line, we have to pay royalties to the BB? Oh Lord. :rolleyes:

XanexAZ 08-07-2010 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1964686)
So apparently someone, on the behalf of the Beach Boys, is talking about suing Katy Perry if she doesn't hand over royalties for her song "California Gurls."

Apparently because Snoop says "I wish they all could be California Girls" that they automatically stole their ideas from the Beach Boys.

Seriously? So whenever someone says that line, we have to pay royalties to the BB? Oh Lord. :rolleyes:

People just like finding a way to make some extra cash without actually working for it. Kind of like the lady that got over on McDonalds for serving her hot coffee.

BluPhire 08-07-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1964686)
So apparently someone, on the behalf of the Beach Boys, is talking about suing Katy Perry if she doesn't hand over royalties for her song "California Gurls."

Apparently because Snoop says "I wish they all could be California Girls" that they automatically stole their ideas from the Beach Boys.

Seriously? So whenever someone says that line, we have to pay royalties to the BB? Oh Lord. :rolleyes:

Umm yes.

Yes I don't agree with it as well, but they should have re-recorded that line so they wouldn't pay.

There has already been precedence.

On American Idol, David Archuleta cost Idol money when while singing Stand By Me, he ad-libbed "To all you beautiful girls." Which is Sean Kingston's song. They had to pay royalties.

pibetaphi2013 08-07-2010 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by calilicious (Post 1947904)
Christina with the heart on her va jay jay and Katy with the whip cream shooters on her breasts. That is copying Gaga wild style because it is the trend now. They are short shorts but only in like Texas or far from CA do they say Daisy Dukes. The image of Daisy Dukes is different from short shorts.

In Texas we do not say Daisy Dukes.

epchick 08-07-2010 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire (Post 1964830)
Umm yes.

Yes I don't agree with it as well, but they should have re-recorded that line so they wouldn't pay.

There has already been precedence.

On American Idol, David Archuleta cost Idol money when while singing Stand By Me, he ad-libbed "To all you beautiful girls." Which is Sean Kingston's song. They had to pay royalties.

That is beyond stupid. I'm pretty sure the Beach Boys did not create that line, it was probably in existence long before they sang it.

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Originally Posted by pibetaphi2013 (Post 1964835)
In Texas we do not say Daisy Dukes.

Yes we do.....but YOU might not.

SWTXBelle 08-07-2010 07:09 PM

It was the Beach Boys' publishers, not them. They (or at least Mike Love) seem pretty cool with it:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/385849...entertainment/

AOII Angel 08-07-2010 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alumiyum (Post 1948888)
I like watching films that make me think...sometimes. I occasionally flip to the Sundance channel when using my parent's house for their digital cable. But a lot of the time movies are escapism for me, and I LIKE watching stupid, pointless movies that make me laugh or feel good for two hours without much effort. Same with music. There's a place for "selling out"...it's entertainment and that doesn't make it less valid than "indie" music. My iPhone has music that is completely across the board and I listen to all of it, from local bands to Gaga. Art isn't just about angst and drama, it's also about effecting a reaction in the consumer and I never have and probably never will understand why just making people happy isn't as important as making them scream about their dark inner angst.

No kidding. I love me some Gaga, though I usually listen to things like Rage Against the Machine. Went to her concert last week and had a great time people watching. :D As for Katy Perry, her song irritates me. The "fine, fresh, fierce" line sounds like "Farm Fresh Eggs" to me.

pibetaphi2013 08-08-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1964842)
Yes we do.....but YOU might not.

Eh, i've never heard anyone say it. Perhaps it's regional, but I wouldn't consider it Texas slang the way people generally say "Coke" instead of "soda" or "pop".

epchick 08-08-2010 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pibetaphi2013 (Post 1964919)
...Texas slang the way people generally say "Coke" instead of "soda" or "pop".

I clearly know nothing of "Texas slang" because everyone here says 'soda.' The only time you hear someone say "coke" is if they are asking for a Coca-Cola/Pepsi.

SWTXBelle 08-08-2010 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1964923)
I clearly know nothing of "Texas slang" because everyone here says 'soda.' The only time you hear someone say "coke" is if they are asking for a Coca-Cola/Pepsi.

Linguistically speaking, Texas falls squarely in the "Coke for soda" camp - perhaps El Paso excepted. :) I forget where I read a recent study, but yes, it is "Texas slang".

As to "Daisy Dukes" - I think it may be more of a generational thing than regional. "Short shorts" and "hiphuggers" were/are used by those of a certain age.

pshsx1 08-08-2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by epchick (Post 1964923)
I clearly know nothing of "Texas slang" because everyone here says 'soda.' The only time you hear someone say "coke" is if they are asking for a Coca-Cola/Pepsi.

I know Texas is considered a "coke" state in the soda/coke/pop/other debate, but I very rarely hear someone use the word "coke" in that context either.

I'm going to assume it's the people outside of the major cities that say "coke."

SWTXBelle 08-08-2010 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1965068)
I know Texas is considered a "coke" state in the soda/coke/pop/other debate, but I very rarely hear someone use the word "coke" in that context either.

I'm going to assume it's the people outside of the major cities that say "coke."


Nope - I'm in Houston, and everyone I know says "coke"
Well, not my friend from Philadelphia . . .

pshsx1 08-08-2010 05:13 PM

Alrighty. Well maybe it's everywhere but Dallas and El Paso.. lol

Psi U MC Vito 08-08-2010 05:15 PM

I think k_slut mentioned the coke thing as well.

knight_shadow 08-08-2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito (Post 1965079)
I think k_slut mentioned the coke thing as well.

The big Texas cities are all full of transplants, so slang is all over the place. It's usually in the small and mid-sized cities that I've heard the "Hey, do you want a coke?" thing. When I'm in Dallas/Houston/Austin, it's "what do you want to drink?"

I personally switch between coke and soda (military brat). I think I only said "pop" when I lived in Indiana and visited family in Michigan.

pibetaphi2013 08-08-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1964942)
Linguistically speaking, Texas falls squarely in the "Coke for soda" camp - perhaps El Paso excepted. :) I forget where I read a recent study, but yes, it is "Texas slang".

As to "Daisy Dukes" - I think it may be more of a generational thing than regional. "Short shorts" and "hiphuggers" were/are used by those of a certain age.

Yes, everyone says Coke, and I've been/lived all over. (Though not El Paso...) Though it's more in the context of, "I'm going to go get a coke" and coming back with sprite or sunkist, etc. than "do you want a coke?" "yes?" "what flavor?"

And the shorts thing is very possible. I am a baby.

pshsx1 08-08-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pibetaphi2013 (Post 1965135)
Yes, everyone says Coke, and I've been/lived all over.

Okay...

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Originally Posted by pibetaphi2013 (Post 1965135)
(Though not El Paso...)

STOP.

See the flaw in your argument?




BY THE WAY, I live in Texas and I say "pop."

Sure I'm from Michigan, but I still fall under "everybody."

Just saying. :)

moe.ron 08-08-2010 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1947906)
Also, "Alejandro" sounds exactly like several Ace of Base songs. lol. Total ripoff.


I actually thought it was a new single by Ace of Base

epchick 08-08-2010 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1965142)
STOP.

See the flaw in your argument?

;)

This is one of my pet peeves (and I know I'm probably guilty of doing it from time to time)....the whole fallacy of "everyone does/says/thinks/etc." But it only really bugs me (or makes me suuppper happy lol) when I'm having an argument with someone.


Generally speaking though, if even 1 person says they don't say Coke....then clearly not everyone says it. :p

I do know we've had convos about the coke/pop/soda thing, but I didn't know that you could be a "Coke" state or "pop" state. Ehh...i'll stick to soda.


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