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PeppyGPhiB 12-22-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1877416)
Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.

Triple post!

Anyway, I have had hydrocodone (Vicodin) prescribed to me a few times, and I don't recall ever getting anything with it. I know the last time I got it, from the ER, there were no other drugs given to me. It's perfectly legal and frequently prescribed.

christiangirl 12-22-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1877442)
Triple post!

Anyway, I have had hydrocodone (Vicodin) prescribed to me a few times, and I don't recall ever getting anything with it. I know the last time I got it, from the ER, there were no other drugs given to me.

Actually, you did. Vicodin is a combo drug--hydrocodone AND acetaminophine together. ;)

PeppyGPhiB 12-22-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1877450)
Actually, you did. Vicodin is a combo drug--hydrocodone AND acetaminophine together. ;)

Oh that's right. Well, I've had hydrocodone specifically prescribed to me, too. Still wasn't given with anything.

sceniczip 12-22-2009 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1877416)
Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.

I've had hydrocodone prescribed just by itself. I'm pretty sure the label just said "hydrocodone" on it. I got it for a back injury thing I had going on (it was a mess, out of alignment, etc...)

epchick 12-22-2009 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1877416)
Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.

My dad was prescribed only Hydrocodone after he had his shoulder surgery. I know that for a fact b/c I put myself in charge of giving him his medicine after he refused to take it (it never helped him, the pain wouldn't go away not even in the slightest...supposedly)

AOII Angel 12-22-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1877416)
Well, I was getting at two things:

1 - Hydrocodone isn't legal to be sold by itself, as far as I know - it's always with another medication, generally an analgesic, right? So either it was illegally obtained (jiving with abuse), or it's redundant with the commercial name of the prescribed med.

2 - Whether the person compiling the list knew one contained the other or not, it kind of looks like an attempt to make the list longer - like the author wrote "she had cola, chips, and Pepsi!" Given tabloid credibility and the "what this looks like" factor, this seems relevant.

More likely, since these are really old drugs they are usually filled as generics and are thus labeled as hydrocodone Xmg/ acetominophin Xmg on the label. They probably just stopped after the hydrocodone when reporting the medication. Vicoprofen, I believe, doesn't come as a generic and would be labeled as Vicoprofen.

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Originally Posted by KSig RC (Post 1877416)
Ha - that's absolutely awesome.

I was prescribed Vicoprofen along with a muscle relaxant for a bad pinched nerve in 2001, and even then the pharmacist acted like it was an odd one.

I can see why they would choose to use Vicoprofen, the ibuprofen has anti-inflammatory properties that would be helpful, it's just not a commonly used or commonly known medication. (Another reason why it would be a red flag to have a patient ask for it by name!)

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1877435)
It is possible that this list also includes medications for her husband, not just her. They were removed from the bedroom (or master suite, I'm guessing), which is a shared space.

Of course, but we all know that having another persons name on a prescription has never stopped people from taking drugs. Anyone remember Anna Nicole? That being said, these medications could ALL belong to her husband and have NOTHING to do with her death, but they sure are suspicious!

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Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB (Post 1877442)
Anyway, I have had hydrocodone (Vicodin) prescribed to me a few times, and I don't recall ever getting anything with it. I know the last time I got it, from the ER, there were no other drugs given to me. It's perfectly legal and frequently prescribed.

You're thinking of Codeine. It's most commonly given to kids because it's hard to regulate the Tylenol dose which can be toxic to the liver. A lot of people claim to be "allergic" to Codeine because it causes nausea as a side effect.

DaemonSeid 12-22-2009 09:06 PM

CG...nah...not ER...more like House, CSI or for old schoolers, Quincy ME

christiangirl 12-22-2009 09:07 PM

Aaaahhh, yes. Definitely the cast of House running around in here. Thanks DS!

pbear19 12-22-2009 09:08 PM

I've got hydrocodone in the house now, from a torn ligament in my elbow. It was the only drug prescribed to me by my sports medicine doc, and it very clearly says hydrocodone on the label. He did recommend that I take some OTC ibuprofen, but nothing other than hydrocodone was prescribed. FWIW.

(I have a nice little collection of bottles in the house between past injuries from my husband and I. We don't have kids and I just never get around to throwing away the old drugs. I can only imagine how "suspicious" my list of drugs would be if it were released to the media. :rolleyes: Especially if it were released like this, with no dates, no names, no indication of last refill or how full the bottle is, etc.)

Benzgirl 12-22-2009 09:15 PM

Wow, this is becoming an entire pharmacology thread.

AOII Angel 12-22-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pbear19 (Post 1877528)
I've got hydrocodone in the house now, from a torn ligament in my elbow. It was the only drug prescribed to me by my sports medicine doc, and it very clearly says hydrocodone on the label. He did recommend that I take some OTC ibuprofen, but nothing other than hydrocodone was prescribed. FWIW.

(I have a nice little collection of bottles in the house between past injuries from my husband and I. We don't have kids and I just never get around to throwing away the old drugs. I can only imagine how "suspicious" my list of drugs would be if it were released to the media. :rolleyes: Especially if it were released like this, with no dates, no names, no indication of last refill or how full the bottle is, etc.)

They may look a little suspicious if you die suddenly in a suspicious manner. Otherwise, they probably aren't any more suspicious than my drug list which actually includes several of the drugs on Britney's list, excluding the narcotics.

christiangirl 12-22-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pbear19 (Post 1877528)
I have a nice little collection of bottles in the house between past injuries from my husband and I.

While packing up my apartment, I filled an entire gallon-sized ziplock bag from my med cabinet. :eek: I had no idea I had so many bottles, mostly painkillers from injuries. I've hurt myself a lot in the last year apparently. :o

DrPhil 12-22-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1877542)
While packing up my apartment, I filled an entire gallon-sized ziplock bag from my med cabinet. :eek: I had no idea I had so many bottles, mostly painkillers from injuries. I've hurt myself a lot in the last year apparently. :o

What are you doing to hurt yourself so much?

christiangirl 12-22-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1877544)
What are you doing to hurt yourself so much?

You know, I was gonna blame figure skating, but I've only gone to the hospital once for that. I'm just clumsy, every other injury happened on two feet. I'm much more coordinated on the ice, now that I think about it.

33girl 12-23-2009 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1877524)
CG...nah...not ER...more like House, CSI or for old schoolers, Quincy ME

No one's shouting enough for it to be Quincy, M.E.

Can I just add...on that note...watching those old reruns, WHAT happened to that show in the later seasons? It got way too preachy and I swear a character said something like "inhalents are used by 50% of teenagers today!" It made me yearn for the days when Jack Klugman was the reason we all learned about cigars, sloppiness, and Off Track Betting.

PeppyGPhiB 12-23-2009 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pbear19 (Post 1877528)

(I have a nice little collection of bottles in the house between past injuries from my husband and I. We don't have kids and I just never get around to throwing away the old drugs. I can only imagine how "suspicious" my list of drugs would be if it were released to the media. :rolleyes: Especially if it were released like this, with no dates, no names, no indication of last refill or how full the bottle is, etc.)

I do the same thing. The Vicodin definitely has come in handy on a few occasions, as has the prescription strength naproxen sodium.

AOII Angel 12-23-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1877569)
You know, I was gonna blame figure skating, but I've only gone to the hospital once for that. I'm just clumsy, every other injury happened on two feet. I'm much more coordinated on the ice, now that I think about it.

My mom would freak out everytime I said I wanted to go ice skating! I would laugh at her, but just two weeks ago, one of our employees fell figure skating at a lesson, shattered his shoulder, ended up on a ventilator in the ICU, had to get lots of blood and almost DIED! My boss said, "Maybe your mom is smarter than the rest of us!"

Not to mention...I'm clumsier than most and have fallen down more than my fair share of stairs. Dislocated my shoulder in med school and tore my rotator cuff, slipped down the stairs in the parking lot at work before our Christmas party my first year at my current hospital giving myself a huge hematoma on my leg and neck spasm, but NO BODY has EVER given me narcotics for pain. I get anti-inflammatories. I wanna know what ERs y'all are going to so I can go there!

ree-Xi 12-23-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pbear19 (Post 1877528)
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(I have a nice little collection of bottles in the house between past injuries from my husband and I. We don't have kids and I just never get around to throwing away the old drugs. I can only imagine how "suspicious" my list of drugs would be if it were released to the media. :rolleyes: Especially if it were released like this, with no dates, no names, no indication of last refill or how full the bottle is, etc.)


Please be watchful of expiration dates - not only do some drugs lose their potency, but some ingredients can break down and other ingredients can be released in a way not designed. For example, some meds have a coating on it because they are time-released (usually "extended release" meds that last 12 hours), or because the medication needs to be released later in the digestion process and needs protection from stomach acid.

I know that a lot of people keep the leftovers from injuries, in case they get hurt again or whatever, but any time you are newly hurt, your overall or specific conditions at the time may be different than when you were first prescribed the drug. So interactions with other meds or contra-indications due to existing medical conditions can cause unwanted side effects.

(I have a lot of experience in various types of meds because of a chronic, genetic disease that effects several major organs/systems. So I am on a lot of of medications, most of them necessary to correct specific organ malfunctioning. So my list is actually pretty scary if you didn't understand my condition.)

christiangirl 12-24-2009 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1877686)
My mom would freak out everytime I said I wanted to go ice skating!

When I sprained my arm doing toe loops, my mom threatened to take my skates away. :mad: She went NUTS, "You could've broken your arm, you could've hit your head, what if you'd died!!!" Honestly, you go throwing yourself into the air like a spinning top, you fall every now and again. Most times, the momentum makes you slide when you hit, so the impact distributes before it hurts.
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Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1877700)
Please be watchful of expiration dates...

That's the sad part. The bag doesn't even count the expired ones I threw out. :( Heeeey....I wonder if Brittany was taking expired meds and that contributed to something? (read: lame attempt to put the thread back on-topic :o)

christiangirl 12-25-2009 02:18 AM

Good-bye, Brittany. :( http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091225...20091225060706

Kappamd 02-04-2010 02:43 PM

"Drugs Played a Role in Brittany Murphy's Death"

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...umonia-drugs/1

Shocker.

PM_Mama00 02-05-2010 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kappamd (Post 1892828)
"Drugs Played a Role in Brittany Murphy's Death"

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...umonia-drugs/1

Shocker.

The primary cause of death was Pneumonia. The secondary was anemia and PRESCRIPTION drugs, all prescribed to her. It's not like she was doing lines and had a heart attack. Post the details, not only what you want.

KSUViolet06 02-05-2010 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1893041)
The primary cause of death was Pneumonia. The secondary was anemia and PRESCRIPTION drugs, all prescribed to her. It's not like she was doing lines and had a heart attack. Post the details, not only what you want.

Sidenote: you can abuse meds that are prescribed to you.

Not saying that I know what happened, but sometimes peeps think that you can't abuse something that the Dr. gave you.


PM_Mama00 02-05-2010 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1893042)
Sidenote: you can abuse meds that are prescribed to you.


You are completely right, however posting "Drugs played a role..." makes it sound like she was doing street drugs. They played a role, but she still died primarily of pneumonia. I couldn't imagine dealing with that and anemia at the same time (I'm borderline anemic).

ETA: I just get annoyed when people always think "they must be on crack/coke/heroine/insert drug" when a famous person looks sick. People have always called that on her and that's what people assumed when it first happened. (not that that's what KappaMD did, but I can see those people not wanting to read the details and thinking "aha another drug addict gone")

Brett 02-05-2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00 (Post 1893044)
You are completely right, however posting "Drugs played a role..." makes it sound like she was doing street drugs. They played a role, but she still died primarily of pneumonia. I couldn't imagine dealing with that and anemia at the same time (I'm borderline anemic).

ETA: I just get annoyed when people always think "they must be on crack/coke/heroine/insert drug" when a famous person looks sick. People have always called that on her and that's what people assumed when it first happened. (not that that's what KappaMD did, but I can see those people not wanting to read the details and thinking "aha another drug addict gone")

Yeah I agree here. I saw that it was pneumonia or some shit like that. I didn't think she was abusing drugs. Celebs are always pinned with that.

dreamseeker 05-24-2010 02:52 AM

Now Bittany Murphy's husband is dead too....wtf?

link

i'm sure we'll find our more details later...

christiangirl 05-24-2010 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1933501)
Now Bittany Murphy's husband is dead too....wtf?

link

i'm sure we'll find our more details later...

Whaaaaa?????


:eek:

ETA: I can't believe Brittany died 5 months ago. It seems so much shorter than that (like maybe 3 months).

PM_Mama00 05-24-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1933501)
Now Bittany Murphy's husband is dead too....wtf?

link

i'm sure we'll find our more details later...

That's exactly what I said aloud when I found out.

knight_shadow 05-24-2010 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamseeker (Post 1933501)
Now Bittany Murphy's husband is dead too....wtf?

link

i'm sure we'll find our more details later...

Heard this on the radio this morning.

I really want to know what the hell is going on in that house.

DaemonSeid 05-24-2010 11:27 AM

how do you die a 'natural' death at 39???

knight_shadow 05-24-2010 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1933591)
how do you die a 'natural' death at 39???

They said (on the radio) that it was heart-related.

Me thinks it had something to do with the same drugs Brittany took.

Benzgirl 05-24-2010 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1933591)
how do you die a 'natural' death at 39???


Based on the picture I saw earlier, if he is 39, then I'm 19.

honeychile 05-24-2010 10:21 PM

Use enough of the right drugs, and any age can be a "natural" death. A body can only take so much, even if you quit taking the drugs.

knight_shadow 08-04-2010 04:22 PM

Coroner: Pneumonia killed Brittany Murphy husband

LOS ANGELES – Brittany Murphy's husband Simon Monjack died from pneumonia, the same illness that killed his actress wife months earlier, coroner's officials said Wednesday.

Monjack, 40, had a slightly enlarged heart and some prescription medications were found in his body, but not at levels that contributed to his death, Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter said.

Monjack was found dead May 23 at the Hollywood Hills home he shared with his actress wife and her mother. Officials initially suspected a heart attack and confirmed Wednesday that Monjack died of natural causes.

Winter said the deaths of British-born screenwriter and Murphy had been referred to county health officials since they died of pneumonia, but did not know if an investigation was ongoing. The health department declined comment.


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