And?

Schools have different liability concerns.

And shut up.

No, I'm not having a hard time explaining my terminology. I made it clear in that other thread that from now on, none of you need to get offended when I use such terminology since you pitched a fit over the way I reacted to it. So that isn't me being hypocritical. I am now doing what YOU and others said was perfectly fine. So YOU have no grounds to complain. If you had the intellectual prowess you THINK you have, you would have realized that.

In response to your statement about acting as though the child is a hardened criminal because of one mistake...I don't think anyone is saying this child or any other child who has one incident is a hardened criminal. The point is that it is far too risky for school officials to start making allowances on a case-by-case basis. How fair would it be for them to determine that one child needs a "talking to" and that another child needs severe punishment? If you have one rule that covers it all, at least you don't allow much room for abuse of discretion.

And if you would stop trying to come against me so hard and use your head you would realize that.

Finally, with respect to your comment that he did not know? What's your point? Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Even at six school officials can make a child understand that they cannot bring guns or knives to school. Furthermore, his mother knew, yet she is responding as though this is just truly shocking. Perhaps she should have confiscated the knife in her own home only allowing him access to it when he is supervised. Wait, I'm sorry, that's asking for a parent to do their job as a parent. My bad.

You're pathetic.

1. Have I shut up yet when you "command" that I do so? Um no.
2. Your response speaks volumes. You don't know what the heck you are talking about and to compensate you resort to "shut up" with no additional comeback. How witty and original.

1. Shut up.
2. Do you know how ironic this is? :) As with every other thread you participate in, things are cool until you get butthurt and annoying. You're much more stupiderererer than any other GC thread hijacker. LOL.

It's funny, but I usually stop reading a thread in this forum when I see certain people post, for I know the train wreck is to come.

MMITY? :rolleyes:

You're not the only one. But some days, I have just have to watch the train wreck.

And it's really stupid because we alllllllllllllll agree that the kid shouldn't have the damn knife at school. What the hell is deepimpact butthurt over?

If it makes her feel any better, Obama still has his Nobel Peace Prize. :)

And I think that's what I was trying to say earlier. We don't know if that didn't happen the first two or three times this kid took the knife to school. We have no way of knowing whether this is a pattern for this kid...

I think we ALL (I do it too) are quick to make judgments on how other people should react in situations when we have only heard one side of the media hyped story and the other side is bound to confidentiality so they can't tell their story. I'd agree that, if things happened exactly as presented by the mom and kid, then the punishment was extreme.

I was a little concerned about the kid's own statement "It's a dumb rule" because I'm wondering if he thinks it is dumb to ban knives from school or if he thinks it is dumb to be expelled/suspended for doing so.

Woman please...nobody pitched a fit except you.

Because you think everyone on GC has an agenda towards you...

And after reading your last post...well throwing spitballs against a brick wall explaining why your opinions are fails per each post is useless, so let's K.I.M.

Oh I dunno, maybe because 7 or 8 of us agree and she is the odd one out and we won't let her have the last word...so why don't we all shut up and let her so she has something to feel good about today, hmmm?

Now that I'd like to see. :rolleyes:

I'm still on post 40, it's going to take a while to catch up - but I can already see CRAZY EYES in this thread - Where's that popcorn??

Popping some now ...will that be butter or kettle corn?

Maybe she packed it in his little Spiderman lunchbox for him, because she would NEVER in a million years think that little fork,knife, spoon contraption could be considered a weapon.

I know Texas tends to lead the crazy train, but at least the legislature here realized that CONTEXT is important and should be considered before shipping 6 year olds off to District Alternative Education Centers!!!

They also decided that site administrators have the intelligence to make sound judgements based on circumstances... Who knew?

Yes, this is the answer.

In this particular case, the boy had no intention of bringing a "weapon" to school. He had never been told it was a "weapon", it was just a nifty eating gadget.

Intention should be taken into consideration.

No, you're good. It is a tradition in our Unit that Bears earn it so that is "typical" for us too. I also agree with you that the Scout in question had probably not earned it yet.


Yeah that was a shining moment until our guest speaker, a Master Decoy Carver, cut himself a few minutes later. :D

I didn't get the memo until too late...

I'll take butter though, THANKS!! :D

Right, so until we have reason to believe this is a pattern for this kid, we will keep saying they should've given a warning first.

It's interesting when the traditionally understood concept of "well, we don't know the complete story" becomes overstated, even to the point where people (not you) feel all opinions are unjustified and the discussion should cease.

He has been led to believe by his mother that he should speak out against the rule because it is wrong based on the punishment. That's probably why he said that.

What part are you having trouble with?

I don't care about being the odd one out because in the grand scheme of things I have found that most of the opinions of the same few who always disagree with me are not based in reality or actual knowledge. Periodically I talk to different people about the things said here on GC in response to various issues. Overwhelmingly I have found that most people I talk to think the opinions of those 7 or 8 are off base. And the people I talk to have no qualms about telling me if they disagree with me.

So I wear it as a badge of honor that I'm "the odd one out" on this issue because your ideas about how schools should handle this type of situation are beyond absurd. Not only do they show a lack of knowledge, and a willingness to disregard rules, but also they show a lack of concern for the welfare of other students in general.

Oh and you might want to lose the generalizations. I never said EVERYONE on GC has an agenda against me. It is just the same few that try to raise hell in every thread.

No, the problem is that you and a few others were just determined from the beginning since you decided you didn't like me for whatever stupid reason, that you were going to attack everything I have to say. What is stupid is your level of pettiness and inability to have a discussion with those you may disagree with. Moreover, even if you agree, you still HAVE to find something snarky to say. Get over yourself. You're not nearly as brilliant as you think, not to mention the fact that your S/RH issues are blindingly obvious.

You're psycho.

I thought he was making a Crocodile Dundee joke, and not really trying to define what a knife was in this context.

Now, that would make too much sense, wouldn't it? :D

Well I try not to judge other people's knowledge of pop culture, but I am a little freaked out that this is the third time since Monday Paul Hogan has shown up in my life.

He doesn't have much else going on, to be fair.

Pssst....this thread nor any others you hijack are about you.

There. I said it. Now go run tell dat.

and Yes Vandal Squirrel, that is EXACTLY what DS was doing leave it to DI to take it seriously.

And that proves it -- your opinions are not based in reality. :p

GC is really not that serious. At all.

Exactly.

I also think it's funny that it was suggested that allowing discretion was naive, but apparently it's not naive to assume that zero tolerance is consistently enforced by the same people who can't be trusted with discretion.

The horror.

Dammit Kevin you almost made me spit soda all over my computer.