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knight_shadow 07-01-2009 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1821943)
If you are that bored, go play tetris.

Nah, I'm good here.

starang21 07-01-2009 03:34 PM

i don't know about you guys, but i for one am interested in seeing the outcome of that experiment. i think it's research worthy.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1821946)
i don't know about you guys, but i for one am interested in seeing the outcome of that experiment. i think it's research worthy.

That research would end poorly with bad results. LOL

starang21 07-01-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1821947)
That research would end poorly with bad results. LOL

i think it would deem discussion at like a conference or something.

have an open forum or something on it.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1821948)
i think it would deem discussion at like a conference or something.

have an open forum or something on it.

Fine...hire security....LOL

starang21 07-01-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1821949)
Fine...hire security....LOL

can't we all just get along?

rhoyaltempest 07-01-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821902)
Do you speak for your entire race?

If so then what is the new politically correct term for the next 100 years? I would like to know since you change the term every couple of years and I don't want to step on any toes when YOU change the term and forget to send the rest of the planet the memo on the new term.

Do you speak for your entire race???

When racist people stop making up derogatory terms or making terms derogatory, that's when we'll stop changing them. And you can call people whatever they choose to be called. If one person chooses to be called African American, so be it and if another chooses to be called Black or otherwise, so be it. No one has the right to determine how someone or a group of people choose to define themselves and it's not important that you understand or get it. Respect other people and they will respect you. Period.

rhoyaltempest 07-01-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1821348)
Well...better "colored" than the other word.

This is a matter of opinion and people see this differently. For me, "Colored" is right up there with the other word...not much difference. And I don't want to be called or refered to as that by anyone, not even an 83 year old man/woman and I will kindly (at first) tell a person not to call me that no matter how they grew up or what they're used to. I have that right. Some people have had more experiences with racism than others and that could be a reason for the different feelings and perceptions.

minDyG 07-01-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1821957)
Do you speak for your entire race???

Certainly not!

Little32 07-01-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by starang21 (Post 1821948)
i think it would deem discussion at like a conference or something.

have an open forum or something on it.


This made me chuckle.

madmax 07-01-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1821957)
Do you speak for your entire race???

When racist people stop making up derogatory terms or making terms derogatory, that's when we'll stop changing them..


The most racist and derogatory term in the thread was cracker that was thrown my way by a well know racist DaemonSeid who defends murderers because of the color of their skin.


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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1821957)
And you can call people whatever they choose to be called. If one person chooses to be called African American, so be it and if another chooses to be called Black or otherwise, so be it. No one has the right to determine how someone or a group of people choose to define themselves and it's not important that you understand or get it. .

If the President gave a speech to the NAACP then what term should he use when you all prefer a different term? You will complain either way.




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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1821957)
Respect other people and they will respect you. Period.

Doubtful. Most of your people don't even respect themselves.

I respect people that go to school, get jobs, work hard, take care of their kids and don't break the law.

DrPhil 07-01-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821982)
The most racist and derogatory term in the thread was cracker that was thrown my way by a well know racist DaemonSeid....

I think he was wrong for typing that to ANYONE. I hate racial slurs of any sort.

You're still an idiot for idiot's sake. Have fun. :)

unspokenone25 07-01-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821982)

Doubtful. Most of your people don't even respect themselves.

I respect people that go to school, get jobs, work hard, take care of their kids and don't break the law
.

If anyone ever wanted to know what a racist thinks, well, here you go. lol.

RU OX Alum 07-01-2009 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821982)
The most racist and derogatory term in the thread was cracker that was thrown my way by a well know racist DaemonSeid who defends murderers because of the color of their skin.




If the President gave a speech to the NAACP then what term should he use when you all prefer a different term? You will complain either way.






Doubtful. Most of your people don't even respect themselves.

I respect people that go to school, get jobs, work hard, take care of their kids and don't break the law.


Cracker isn't half as hateful as the word colored used the context and meaning you're using and Mumia wasn't a murderer. He was targeted by the police for what he wrote about them. Any pigs that may have died definately deserved it. So does anyone who disagrees with that sentiment.

madmax 07-01-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1821990)
Cracker isn't half as hateful as the word colored used the context and meaning you're using and Mumia wasn't a murderer. He was targeted by the police for what he wrote about them. Any pigs that may have died definately deserved it. So does anyone who disagrees with that sentiment.

Mumia is a scumbag and anyone that defends Mumia is a scumbag.


FRY Mumia!!

knight_shadow 07-01-2009 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by unspokenone25 (Post 1821988)
If anyone ever wanted to know what a racist thinks, well, here you go. lol.

Mm-hmm.

Anyone else think madmax = Zephyrus trying to get a rise out of folks?

knight_shadow 07-01-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822002)
I barely notice Zephyrus. Why would that poster do that?

He was banned. Before madmax started completely showing his/her ass, I picked up on the Zephyrus vibe.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1822007)
He was banned. Before madmax started completely showing his/her ass, I picked up on the Zephyrus vibe.

max has been showing his @ss for a while...this aint new.

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1821984)
I think he was wrong for typing that to ANYONE. I hate racial slurs of any sort.

Really now...heh!

Hi pot!

DrPhil 07-01-2009 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1822009)
Really now...heh!

Hi pot!

There's no pot and kettle here. I don't type racial slurs.

Unless you count when you THOUGHT I was calling you a dreadlock Rasta. :rolleyes: I already told you I'd never insult Rastas like that.

knight_shadow 07-01-2009 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822008)
Oh. I'm not hip on GC game. Why'd Zephyrus get banned? LOL.

Probably TOS stuff. I remember him saying things like "You and your monkey friends need to...."

I guess they got sick of him?

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1822009)
max has been showing his @ss for a while...this aint new.

First I've seen him. I meant to say starting showing his ass in this conversation.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822010)
There's no pot and kettle here. I don't type racial slurs.

Unless you count when you THOUGHT I was calling you a dreadlock Rasta. :rolleyes: I already told you I'd never insult Rastas like that.

Not what I was referring to.

But you are in the ballpark.

I don't type racial slurs either :D

I do however believe in intent.

Spin on it for awhile...it will come to you.

DrPhil 07-01-2009 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1822014)
Not what I was referring to.

But you are in the ballpark.

Guessing games are lame. Just shut up.

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1822014)
I don't type racial slurs either :D

You did.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822015)
Guessing games are lame. Just shut up.

Make me... you do indeed have your uses...not many, but you do.

:D

DrPhil 07-01-2009 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1822016)
Make me... you do indeed have your uses...not many, but you do.

:D

And you have your idiot.

Anyway, you were wrong for typing that slur, regardless of your intent.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822017)
And you have your idiot.

Anyway, you were wrong for typing that slur, regardless of your intent.

Well you and madmax can cry and get over it together.

Anything else?

DrPhil 07-01-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1822018)
Anything else?

Yeah, you're an idiot.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822019)
Yeah, you're an idiot.

Classy...and your mama wears combat boots...like I should give 2 shits about your opinion, go play.

pshsx1 07-01-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by madmax (Post 1821982)
your people

Hm. Didn't we discuss the offense of those two words together?

DrPhil 07-01-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1822023)
like I should give 2 shits about your opinion

You do and it is sad.

DrPhil 07-01-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1822024)
Hm. Didn't we discuss the offense of those two words together?

Hello, let me introduce you to madmax. He's trying to offend.

DaemonSeid 07-01-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822027)
You do and it is sad.

and sadder still, you love me.

that's why you talk to me.

**CLICK!**

MysticCat 07-01-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RU OX Alum (Post 1821990)
Cracker isn't half as hateful as the word colored used the context and meaning you're using and Mumia wasn't a murderer. He was targeted by the police for what he wrote about them. Any pigs that may have died definately deserved it.

Regardless of what Mumia or anyone else may have done, count me in as disagreeing that any police officers "deserved" to die.
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So does anyone who disagrees with that sentiment.
So does that mean I deserve to die as well? :rolleyes:

ThetaPrincess24 07-01-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat (Post 1822043)
Regardless of what Mumia or anyone else may have done, count me in as disagreeing that any police officers "deserved" to die.
So does that mean I deserve to die as well? :rolleyes:

I agree with you MysticCat!

christiangirl 07-01-2009 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1822024)
Hm. Didn't we discuss the offense of those two words together?

I was going to say something, but then again...

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1822029)
Hello, let me introduce you to madmax. He's trying to offend.

...there you have it. :rolleyes:

And has this little bit of banter really progressed to "your mama" jokes? Srsly? Next will come, "Talk to the hand" if y'all keep it up long enough. Then we'll be forced to have a "Food to eat while watching the DS vs. DP thread" thread.

DrPhil 07-01-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1822065)
And has this little bit of banter really progressed to "your mama" jokes? Srsly? Next will come, "Talk to the hand" if y'all keep it up long enough. Then we'll be forced to have a "Food to eat while watching the DS vs. DP thread" thread.

shut up

tld221 07-01-2009 07:51 PM

:bringing e-popcorn:

...called it. I mean since I have all the time in the world, with not working, disrespecting myself, and breaking the law.

agzg 07-01-2009 09:23 PM

This may just be me but I don't generally refer to someone's race when I'm talking to them. I'm pretty sure they know their race. It comes up maybe... once every 100 or so conversations.

MysticCat 07-01-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1822121)
This may just be me but I don't generally refer to someone's race when I'm talking to them. I'm pretty sure they know their race. It comes up maybe... once every 100 or so conversations.

LOL. I had that same thought.

33girl 07-01-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL (Post 1821908)
I use the word colored with my friends pretty often when referring to us as a group or something like that. (They are mostly Hispanic.)

I would not mind if an older person or most other people using it in a non-offensive way referred to me as colored. I am colored. I am Black. I am American. I am Jamaican. What I don't like, is the term African-American. I will correct someone on that.

I assume you don't like it because you're not from Africa, which makes perfect sense. But how is someone supposed to know that? Are there noticeable differences in features or skin color?

I'm not trying to stir the pot here, just honestly asking.

This makes me think of an old WWII propaganda poster I saw once, the jist of which was "how to tell a Chinese person from a Japanese person so you're not unnecessarily mean to the Chinese person since it's not them we're pissed off at."

DrPhil 07-01-2009 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1822156)
I assume you don't like it because you're not from Africa, which makes perfect sense. But how is someone supposed to know that? Are there noticeable differences in features or skin color?

No, there usually aren't features and skin color differences.

She and all other people of the African diaspora will just have to take it on a case-by-case basis. Being Jamaican or Brazilian, for example, are not racial designations. Black and African American are pretty standard. People can specify their cultural or ethnic designations from there. Black and African American are the least offensive and least nitpicky of the category labels, as far as I'm concerned. They originated for a reason.

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1822156)
This makes me think of an old WWII propaganda poster I saw once, the jist of which was "how to tell a Chinese person from a Japanese person so you're not unnecessarily mean to the Chinese person since it's not them we're pissed off at."

I consider that different than "Black people" from all over the globe. Chinese and Japanese are not only culturally but ethnically distinct within the "Asian" racial category. I can usually tell the difference because the different Asian ethnicities tend to have different physical features.

Does anyone remember the martial arts film "Chinese vs. Japanese?" Great film. A lot of people didn't know there WAS a difference before that film was released in America.


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