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cheerfulgreek 06-25-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1819845)
I am not joking CG..when you think of all the stuff out there that is by him....ebay sellers will have a field day.

I know, it's just that some people (not you) are so focused on money, not even recognizing the fact that we just lost one of the greatest entertainers ever.

lovespink88 06-25-2009 08:15 PM

Watching MTV Jams now, they're playing all MJ. The station label in the corner just seys MTV Jams R.I.P. :(

ETA: YES!!! WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR....THRILLER!!!

LttleMsPrEp 06-25-2009 08:46 PM

I still can't believe it. Part of the reason is because out of anyone in the world that my mother could have told me that died today Michael Jackson is not a name that I would have EVER thought that I would hear. :( What a sad day.

ZTAngel 06-25-2009 08:48 PM

Crazy. First Farrah and now Michael. He had such a difficult life. I really feel for him. I was hoping that he'd make a comeback. I was also hoping that he'd do a US tour if his European tour was successful. I am so sad that I'll never get to see him in concert. He is truly a legend.

KSUViolet06 06-25-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTAngel (Post 1819890)
Crazy. First Farrah and now Michael. He had such a difficult life. I really feel for him. I was hoping that he'd make a comeback. I was also hoping that he'd do a US tour if his European tour was successful. I am so sad that I'll never get to see him in concert. He is truly a legend.

Apparently he was planning on a US tour for next year.

It was originally planned for this year, but he had some health problems and had to push it back.

I honestly do feel for him, he had alot going on.

kddani 06-25-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTAngel (Post 1819890)
He had such a difficult life. I really feel for him.

It is really sad what he's been through, and where he came from (i.e. screwed up family). I'm sure his dad is already figuring out how to make money out of this.

BabyPiNK_FL 06-25-2009 09:10 PM

I'm so glad that one of his lawyers is calling all these enablers out. This is some really messed up stuff. All of those hard hours of working, plus injuries, plus surgeries/procedures to deal with the injuries, plus stress over money, plus working out, plus all these bottom feeders looking for a free ride, plus so much depending on you AND all that unecessary plastic surgery! That is enough to do any man in.

I'm so sad right now. When I was 17, I was at Hard Rock's headquarters doing a special program and we were allowed to try on tons of the stuff that had been turned in to them. One of the things was the red jacket from THRILLER. That was one of the greatest days of my life. :D

I keep talking about it. I know it. But I don't like to hear anyone say it. :(

pshsx1 06-25-2009 09:10 PM

E! is all MJ right now. I kind of feel bad that Farrah's hype has been completely killed now b/c of MJ's death.

...not saying death is a popularity contest or anything... but hell, I'm not seeing any Charlie's Angels playbacks right now.

I cannot believe he was only 50, though. They just keep getting younger.

KAPital PHINUst 06-25-2009 09:13 PM

The following post was made over 5 years ago, but for some reason it stuck with me through the years as I read and listened to news regarding Michael Jackson, but now that he was 50 when he died, this post makes it kinda creepy (not to say that his cause of death was due to what was originally posted, but if it comes out to be the case, it makes this post all the more creepier):

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 333757)
After watching the entire interview and the followup on Prime Time, I believe that Bashir did indeed slant the whole thing to his on purpose of making Michael look bad. Watching the promos for the show made it sound much worse than it was and the obvious spin at the end made me think that Michael does have the right to feel betrayed by this man he let into his life for 8 months.

Michael was obviously traumatized by his childhood, and I suspect he is on meds probably for bi-polar (which may explain the manic behavior in Berlin). The discoloration of his nail beds is indicative of someone who is ill or are meds and could be from the vitiligo. Yes, I do believe that he has the affliction and yes I'm guessing that he had skin peels (or whatever) to eliminate the spotting, especially after suffering the trauma from childhood about his acne.

I also think the whole thing about kids sleeping in the bedroom was blown out of proportion. I believe that he is asexual (he said that he did not have sex with Tatum) and did not and will not sexually assault any children. And really I couldn't care less how many facial surgeries he has had--2 or 20. If he wants to look like and be Peter Pan, that's cool too. There are worse things than wanting to be eternally young, like being eternally messed up on crack.

But IMHO, Mr. Bashir (and Barbara Walters in her commentaries) artfully edited and spun the documentary in a way that was solely for the purpose of sensationalism and discreditation.

I left the whole thing deeply concerned about Michael--concerned more of what he might do to himself when he can no longer hide the aging process. I honestly believe he may commit suicide before he turns 50.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

BabyPiNK_FL 06-25-2009 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1819900)
E! is all MJ right now. I kind of feel bad that Farrah's hype has been completely killed now b/c of MJ's death.

...not saying death is a popularity contest or anything... but hell, I'm not seeing any Charlie's Angels playbacks right now.

I cannot believe he was only 50, though. They just keep getting younger.

Keep in mind that she had a media bonanza for like 3 weeks about a month ago. Also, while her death is no less important, she had been suffering for years and we all expected her to die sometime soon. She is in a far better place now. How long does someone who has acknowledged that they are incurable want to continue dealing with the pain that they've dealt with for YEARS? I hope she went peacefully.

LttleMsPrEp 06-25-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pshsx1 (Post 1819900)
E! is all MJ right now. I kind of feel bad that Farrah's hype has been completely killed now b/c of MJ's death.

...not saying death is a popularity contest or anything... but hell, I'm not seeing any Charlie's Angels playbacks right now.

I cannot believe he was only 50, though. They just keep getting younger.


I honestly think that the difference in media coverage is because it's been a well-known fact that Farrah was taking a turn for the worse. Even a few days ago I remember seeing on an entertainment show that she was readmitted into the hospital and sources saying that she was not doing too well. My point is, not to sound heartless or anything, but I think that to a certain extent people were expecting Farrah to die sooner or later. Whereas, Michael Jackson dying was something that took everyone by surprise.

PeppyGPhiB 06-25-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LttleMsPrEp (Post 1819903)
I honestly think that the difference in media coverage is because it's been a well-known fact that Farrah was taking a turn for the worse. Even a few days ago I remember seeing on an entertainment show that she was readmitted into the hospital and sources saying that she was not doing too well. My point is, not to sound heartless or anything, but I think that to a certain extent people were expecting Farrah to die sooner or later. Whereas, Michael Jackson dying was something that took everyone by surprise.

Also - and this may seem harsh - Farrah's career success was nowhere near Michael's. She left Charlie's Angels after just one season, and enjoyed minimal success after that. She was beautiful and a style icon of her time, but she was no King of Pop.

DrPhil 06-25-2009 09:53 PM

We also had a play-by-play of Farrah's illness and dying days. It was basically a countdown to her death from many media outlets, which really saddened me. Did anyone watch her 20/20 special tonight?

MJ was seemingly soooooo random and unexpected. I was glued to the TV and internet for 30 minutes waiting for the confirmation of his death from more than TMZ. He was the icon of our generation (those who grew up watching Jackson 5 and/or MJ in his younger solo days) and that's why many of us are responding as we are.

DrPhil 06-25-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1819901)
The following post was made over 5 years ago, but for some reason it stuck with me through the years as I read and listened to news regarding Michael Jackson, but now that he was 50 when he died, this post makes it kinda creepy (not to say that his cause of death was due to what was originally posted, but if it comes out to be the case, it makes this post all the more creepier):



:eek: :eek: :eek:

Yeah, that part of her post gets me.

When he was reported as being rushed to the hospital, my friend and I were wondering whether MJ attempted suicide. When he passed, I accepted the cause of death but, in the back of my mind, wonder if it was a suicide and the cause of death is just a cover-up. Anything's possible since his health issue and passing come out of nowhere as far as the public is concerned.

unspokenone25 06-25-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LttleMsPrEp (Post 1819903)
I honestly think that the difference in media coverage is because it's been a well-known fact that Farrah was taking a turn for the worse. Even a few days ago I remember seeing on an entertainment show that she was readmitted into the hospital and sources saying that she was not doing too well. My point is, not to sound heartless or anything, but I think that to a certain extent people were expecting Farrah to die sooner or later. Whereas, Michael Jackson dying was something that took everyone by surprise.

Agreed.

KSUViolet06 06-25-2009 10:19 PM

I'm sorry, but I find it a tad annoying that I log on to Facebook/Twitter and see stuff like:

"OMG, you guys are SUCH idiots for caring about Michael Jackson when 50 people died in Iraq today and Iranians are being politically oppressed."

I agree that those things are important and we should be concerned about them, but status updates and Tweets like those are a bit self-righteous much.

DrPhil 06-25-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1819924)
"OMG, you guys are SUCH idiots for caring about Michael Jackson when 50 people died in Iraq today and Iranians are being politically oppressed."

That is so cliche`-ish.

If I felt like keeping the insensitive arsehole theme going, I'd say that I probably "know" MJ more than I know those people in Iran and Iraq.

deepimpact2 06-25-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1819914)

When he was reported as being rushed to the hospital, my friend and I were wondering whether MJ attempted suicide. When he passed, I accepted the cause of death but, in the back of my mind, wonder if it was a suicide and the cause of death is just a cover-up. Anything's possible since his health issue and passing come out of nowhere as far as the public is concerned.

Really? Typically I believe in cover-ups, but I really think he had a heart attack. I think he has been under so much stress and strain and on so many medications that his heart gave out.

Munchkin03 06-25-2009 11:26 PM

I was at the hairdresser when the word spread. Needless to say, everyone was on their Blackberries and iPhones. Most of my Twitter buddies, including some reading now, were keeping each other informed about this.

The Michael Baisden show was playing in the background; pretty early on, he devoted his entire coverage to MJ, starting with Jackson. Those songs they were playing, like "Rock with You," "Human Nature," and "PYT," brought back good memories.

Remember when it was such a BIG deal when a new MJ video came out?

DaemonSeid 06-25-2009 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek (Post 1819877)
I know, it's just that some people (not you) are so focused on money, not even recognizing the fact that we just lost one of the greatest entertainers ever.

Oooohhhh.....they recognize it and now is the time to make a pretty buck from his death...

Munchkin03 06-25-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1819958)
Oooohhhh.....they recognize it and now is the time to make a pretty buck from his death...

Kind of related, but iTunes has an MJ icon on their homepage, and 6 of the top album downloads are from Michael Jackson. Apparently, the top 10 at Amazon is all MJ too--not sure if that's downloads or actual CDs.

What's going to happen to all of those people who had tickets to see him this summer?

KSUViolet06 06-25-2009 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1819962)

What's going to happen to all of those people who had tickets to see him this summer?

My dad had James Brown tickets when he passed, and I'm pretty sure he got a refund. So I think this may be the same thing? I'm not positive though.

DrPhil 06-25-2009 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1819955)
Really? Typically I believe in cover-ups, but I really think he had a heart attack. I think he has been under so much stress and strain and on so many medications that his heart gave out.

Yes, really.

DrPhil 06-25-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1819956)
Remember when it was such a BIG deal when a new MJ video came out?

Yes! I remember the one that premiered after In Living Color.

His videos were productions. He was the first to really do that.

KSUViolet06 06-25-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1819968)
Yes! I remember the one that premiered after In Living Color.

When "Black or White" premiered, I'm pretty sure we had popcorn that night and watched it, like it was a movie.

Proverbs31 06-25-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1819962)
Kind of related, but iTunes has an MJ icon on their homepage, and 6 of the top album downloads are from Michael Jackson. Apparently, the top 10 at Amazon is all MJ too--not sure if that's downloads or actual CDs.

Yea I saw that. I just gave about $20 to iTunes myself.

ASUADPi 06-25-2009 11:56 PM

I found out while I was at work. While MJ was a little "odd", he made great music and I feel horrible for his children (as his oldest is only like 12). No matter what anyone thinks of him, he was their father. My heart goes out to them.

deepimpact2 06-26-2009 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1819966)
Yes, really.

But what information do you have to base this on? Because this really is just sheer speculation. There's no reason to believe he attempted suicide.

honeychile 06-26-2009 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1819955)
Really? Typically I believe in cover-ups, but I really think he had a heart attack. I think he has been under so much stress and strain and on so many medications that his heart gave out.

That's what the boy and I have been thinking. The human body can only take so much without rebelling in some form.

I hope he had a will that specifies good guardians for his children. I shudder to think who he could have named.

KSUViolet06 06-26-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by honeychile (Post 1819997)

I hope he had a will that specifies good guardians for his children. I shudder to think who he could have named.

I don't think he would have named anyone too *weird.*

I mean, most of his siblings are pretty normal.

Not sure how I'd feel about his parents though.

There's also Elizabeth Taylor as a possibility, lol. I'm pretty sure she is one of the kids' godmother or something...

knight_shadow 06-26-2009 01:22 AM

^^^ What about the kids' mother? She didn't relinquish all of her rights, did she?

ETA: Never mind. It looks like she did give up her rights.

KSUViolet06 06-26-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1820002)
^^^ What about the kids' mother? She didn't relinquish all of her rights, did she?

I am fairly sure that she has no rights to them.

I think that was a stipulation for having them and getting the $$ (that she terminate her rights).

DrPhil 06-26-2009 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1819970)
When "Black or White" premiered, I'm pretty sure we had popcorn that night and watched it, like it was a movie.

Remember the even bigger deal that the "Thriller" video was? Awesomeness.

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1819980)
But what information do you have to base this on? Because this really is just sheer speculation. There's no reason to believe he attempted suicide.

Nothing in my original post conveyed that I firmly believe that he committed suicide. Of course it is speculation, just as I still speculate that Anna Nicole Smith possibly committed suicide.

His life was filled with risk factors for self-harm and suicide from the age of 9 to the age of 50. Some of these suicide risk factors include the self-inflicted risk factors for cardiac arrest such as the "need" for prescription drugs and/or illicit drugs, as well as the risk factors for cardiac arrest that aren't necessarily self-inflicted such as stress and heart disease. That's that and I'll leave it at that.

PrettyBoy 06-26-2009 06:59 AM

RIP Mike..you'll be missed by many.:(:(:(:(:(

It's funny, because just last week I was teasing another GC member about a post regarding MJ, and now he's gone. I posted this youtube last week as a response, having no clue he'd be gone this week.:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MmEMrCRfc


Munchkin03 06-26-2009 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1820042)
The last time anyone saw Elizabeth Taylor I really thought she'd go at any second.

I never thought that she'd outlive her pal Michael. :(

I know! Apparently she and Stevie Wonder were too distraught to make statements.

DaemonSeid 06-26-2009 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1819962)
Kind of related, but iTunes has an MJ icon on their homepage, and 6 of the top album downloads are from Michael Jackson. Apparently, the top 10 at Amazon is all MJ too--not sure if that's downloads or actual CDs.

What's going to happen to all of those people who had tickets to see him this summer?


Those tickets just became collectors items...again...peep ebay...heh


Ok....

I am predicting that within 25 years he may surpass Elvis as one of the richest deceased artists.

I think in part because he owned rights to the Beetles collection.

Just think about this, for starters, there is a Beetles Rock Band coming out soon.

How much does his estate stand to make from their cut of the profits from that game?

How much of his unreleased recordings will be 'found' within the next 10 years?

deepimpact2 06-26-2009 07:56 AM

(Sigh) According to some media reports, Michael allegedly left the portion of the Beatles catalog that he owned to Paul McCartney in his will in order to repair the rift between them over it. :mad: I hope not. I was hoping Paul would NEVER get his hands on it again. Especially since he was acting like such a jerk about it. Dude, Michael outbid you fair and square. Move the hell on!

DaemonSeid 06-26-2009 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1820050)
(Sigh) According to some media reports, Michael allegedly left the portion of the Beatles catalog that he owned to Paul McCartney in his will in order to repair the rift between them over it. :mad: I hope not. I was hoping Paul would NEVER get his hands on it again. Especially since he was acting like such a jerk about it. Dude, Michael outbid you fair and square. Move the hell on!



what Snopes had to say on this issue. YMMV

The Straight Dope covered this also

Munchkin03 06-26-2009 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1820048)

I think in part because he owned rights to the Beetles collection.

Just think about this, for starters, there is a Beetles Rock Band coming out soon.

How much does his estate stand to make from their cut of the profits from that game?

How much of his unreleased recordings will be 'found' within the next 10 years?

So much of what he owned in ATV Music was so heavily mortgaged. He offered to sell it a few times. I think we'll see the extent to which he was leveraged and enabled momentarily.

Paul and Yoko had ample opportunities to purchase the catalogue, but MJ just outbid them. Even Yoko said that it was better to have someone not related to the Beatles to own the songs. I don't know how I feel about it. We're going to learn a lot soon.

DrPhil 06-26-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1820050)
(Sigh) According to some media reports, Michael allegedly left the portion of the Beatles catalog that he owned to Paul McCartney in his will in order to repair the rift between them over it. :mad: I hope not. I was hoping Paul would NEVER get his hands on it again. Especially since he was acting like such a jerk about it. Dude, Michael outbid you fair and square. Move the hell on!

I always thought that McCartney should own a larger portion than Jackson did, since he was a Beatles. Maybe he did.


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