Most definitely!

The most recent "oops baby" in my circle of friends, was a product of an extra marital one-night stand. My friend & her hubby were going through tough times, separated for a little (like less than a month or so) and she ended up pregnant within that time. She didn't know if it was her hubby (who she was still having sex with) or the dude. It was VERY clear who was the daddy when the baby popped out though.

My cousins bff has an "oops baby." She's 14.

Birth control (with the exception of abstinence or hysterectomy) isn't 100% effective, regardless of how old or smart the couple is.

The "oops" baby phenomenon isn't limited to the unmarried. (I'm sure you know this. I'm just pointing out that married folks have to deal with this sometimes, too.)

Really?! I didn't know this!!! :eek::eek::eek: OMG thanks for enlightening me!

Honestly? I look back to where I was at 16, and although I thought I knew everything, there was a lot--especially in terms of sex and birth control--that I didn't figure out until I was a little older. For what it's worth, I had parents who made sure I had access to what I needed/wanted in that regard, so it's not like I was a Bristol Palin or anything.

The whole point was that when you're a teenager, you may take risks with your body and life that you normally wouldn't after a few years out in the real world. You may not have access to birth control, or you might not be educated on how to use it. By the time you're in your mid-20s, however, the game can be a little different.

^^^ And my whole point was that even once you're an adult who doesn't takes risks, and even if you have access to BC and you're educated on how to use it, you can still get pregnant.

I didn't mean to suggest that you don't know these things. I was just responding to your statement that you understood teenagers' oops babies more than adults' oops babies.

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THANK YOU for the explanation! Even at 21, I admit I am VERY sheltered, and I don't have any friends who had an "oops baby" :eek: incident. I totally understand now. I seriously did not know that this happened in this country SO MUCH where MTV could find enough girls to make a whole show about it! I am almost embarrassed to say that, but I'm just being honest. I guess this show AND this thread have really opened my eyes!

My point wasn't that no form of BC is 100% effective; everyone knows that. Those aren't the accidental pregnancies that I'm really concerned about for the purposes of this discussion.

The point I was getting at is that a teenage girl is probably less responsible than someone 10 years older (and would probably skip a pill or go without a condom once in a while); she would probably listen to her stupid boyfriend about the circumstances under which you WOULDN'T get pregnant; and she would probably feel like she was invincible and think it wouldn't happen to her. Therefore, an accidental pregnancy based on carelessness for a 16 year old is more understandable (it doesn't mean I condone it) than for a 26 year old, who should know better.

OMG that is sooo true! I can't believe how many stories I've heard said when I was in HS and then years later by the newer HS girls I know. Things like:

*You can't get pregnant if you have sex in a pool
*You can't get pregnant if you have sex in a hot tub
*You can't have sex if the girl is on top (supposedly the sperm just falls down and doesn't "go up" the vagina to fertilize an egg)
*After you have unprotected sex, you have to do jumping jacks or jump rope (anything with jumping) and the sperm will 'fall out' and you won't get pregnant.
*If you use 2 condoms there is more than a 100% effectiveness (really? lol)
*If you take 2 bc pills the day after you have unprotected sex then you won't get pregnant (supposedly it stops the egg from being fertilized or something)

plus the whole:
*You can't get pregnant if you have anal sex
*You can't get pregnant if you have oral sex
^^^ so those 2 are probably true, but those lead to having sex...and then unprotected sex.

I actually found out a couple of months ago that you actually could get pregnant from anal sex. It's uncommon but it happens.

Although I really don't think teenagers should be having children in the first place, I really only had a problem with one episode of this show. I hated the last episode! That girl's boyfriend was a total piece of trash who's probably going to leave her some day very soon. I think it was completely naive and down-right stupid of her to sacrifice so much for him, on the sole idea that he'd take care of her and her child. She didn't even get to graduate! So now, she's a 17 year old mother without even a high school diploma who's whole life is basically riding on the possibility that her boyfriend (who didn't even want to talk about marriage) will support her and her baby. I hope things work out well for her, but it's looking very grim as of now. I just hope we don't see them on the Maury show next season.

Lol, through this entire page, all I could think was, "I'm an oops baby." My parents were married and in their 40s but I was totally unplanned. It really can happen to anyone. ;)

However, the episode I saw of this show featured a girl who didn't know what a "crib" was called. That was sad. She was so not ready for a baby that I couldn't even crack a joke. But when she said "I got pregnant because my boyfriend said he didn't like how condoms felt and I was too stupid to make him wear one anyway," my respect for increased. She knew where the responsibility fell and was honest about it, which is more than a lot of teens (and women in general) will cough up to. I have one friend who had an oops baby recently and all she could say is "Why is God doing this to me?!" Uuuhhh, I'm pretty sure it wasn't God on top of you, honey. ;) Honestly, people say so much about girls "not protecting themselves" but I've met and/or heard of 5 different children who were conceived even with a condom (including my own nephew). I don't put much stock in them at all, but it's better than nothing. To think people would go without even that because "I got caught up in the moment" or "He didn't want one" just boggles my mind. It's one of those "I get it but because I never had that experience, I don't really understand" kind of things.

There actually is some truth to that one. The morning after pill is basically a superdose of birth control.

This only happens if the male pulls out before ejaculating, and the semen enters the vagina. There is no secret passageway connecting the rectum and the uterus for the sperm to swim through to be able to fertilize any eggs. :)

Yes, but it's a dose that's more like the equivalent of taking an entire packet of regular BCP's at once, not just taking two in one day. (NOT that I would EVER advise anyone to do that--especially not when Plan B is available WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION for girls over 16.)

Just watched Farrah's episode last night...wow. just WOW. She was RIDICULOUS..and her mom was crazy too. I respect her for keeping the baby and not relying on the baby daddy though..good for her!

Thank you!!

Women can get pregnant ANYTIME semen enters the vagina.

I also want young ladies to stop falling for "let me just put the head in" "if we just fool around you can't get pregnant."

Does anyone remember back to oh, say ten years ago, when people were freaking out during the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal about oral sex being discussed because of the "I did not have sex" comment and all these kids were going to do it and it was going to be an epidemic? This wasn't the abstinence only era yet, but it is unfortunate that there's nothing discussed in between the spectrum of intercourse and abstinence. It also isn't just pregnancy, but STD awareness is important.

You know 1st-3rd bases...

On the OOPS babies I kind of understand, and I kind of don't. Completely anecdotal but I have a friend who cannot get pregnant for health reasons, and if she did she'd have an abortion because a pregnancy could kill her, or the baby (if brought to term) could have serious issues. Since she is young no doctor will consider a tubal ligation :rolleyes: but she's likely to lose her other ovary so it will probably be a moot point. She takes, and has taken medication that would cause birth defects, and she was forced to be on hormonal birth control as a teenager to prevent pregnancy, even though she wasn't sexually active. Not everyone has a life threatening situation, but if she can avoid getting pregnant with various methods (abstinence, more than one form of protection, non penetrating activities) it makes it hard for me to accept all these "oops" when if someone really doesn't want to be pregnant (and maybe some people *do* want to be pregnant), they can prevent it from happening. I'm only referring to consensual sex here.

We've got user error, "it can't happen to me syndrome," lack of education, economics (though I don't know anyone who has been turned away by Planned Parenthood), and who knows what else at work here.

Oh and Bristol Palin is the new ambassador for the Candie's Foundation for teen pregnancy awareness and prevention. http://www.candiesfoundation.org/ Parts of the website make me laugh, probably because I am not their target audience.

Celebrity Messages Include:

• Be Sexy: It Doesn’t Mean You Have to Have Sex
• Be Smart: Don’t Give Up Your Education
• Be Smart: You Are Too Young to Start
• Not Really the Way You Pictured Your First Crib
• Not What You Had in Mind for Your First Set of Wheels
• You Think Being in School Sucks

Hahaha yeah her brother's name was pretty bad. But her grandma is a WITCH! How do you kick out your pregnant grandchild?

Let me get this straight, the mother of your child is hungry and you tell her to go cook. She tells you her feet are swollen and you say "well you can't eat if you don't cook."

Uh...why can't YOU cook for the mother of your child?! You aren't DOING ANYTHING ELSE. And then she gets a lecture from her mother about just going in the kitchen and cooking. "You're gonna have to do it all at the same time...cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the baby."

Uh...what the hell will HE be doing in all of this? :mad: I swear I'm so tired of men being taught that as long as there's a woman present she's the one responsible for the household and the children.

Woosah. I'll end my rant there.

(The grandma missed the cup coke (so did I) and overreacted. It was very strange and kind of funny. I think grandma is just tired of all the preggers women in that house. She was just waiting for a chance to express it.)

Well none of them seem very bright, lol. She shouldn't have dropped out, and she could have at least done her GEE work. I mean, you do that from home! She was just lazy and spoiled.

That's right! Busy guy.

Hopefully he'll have time to do a family drive-by. Ya know...babysit HIS OWN child and stuff.

Ah I missed this one!! Cant wait to watch this trainwreck..

I loved how nobody in that disaster of a trailer was working. Not even her pregnant mom's bf seemed to think work was important. The baby shower at the boxing gym was also pretty classy. Well, I'm off to play slots at the gas station...

And I forgot to add...DO NOT mock my penis coffee mug!

This show is a hot mess, no, it's beyond a hot mess at this point. Is there a term for something worse than a hot mess that's not hot ass mess?
None of these girls are ready to be mothers. The only one that I saw who has a chance in hell of pulling her crap together was Maci...and her boyfriend is a loser. I pray for all of these children, mothers included. Adoption into a two parent reasonable household would have been a better choice for all of them.

Hot ass mess with bacon on top?

I agree 100%! And these girls are not ready for more than just motherhood. They're not ready for adulthood!

Sometimes adoption is the wisest, most mature, and often the hardest decision. And there are so many happy couples out there who want children but have been unable to have their own and their hearts are full of love to give to a child.

Exactly! I swear, you should have to get a license to have children.

I know, right? I wonder how they even afford to live there with like, no one working in the house.

I also love how no one is working, but NO ONE CAN CLEAN! That house was SO DISGUSTING. No house should be THAT dirty with that many adults living in it.

I wouldn't even WANT to bring my baby home to such conditions.

HA. She totally didn't get the joke. It was probably one of those "Damn I hate all these people living here and will take any opportunity to express it" moments, though.

Agreed. My heart hurt when I watched Juno. I wished that I had been that mature in high school. Not that I was in that situation, but I certainly could have been, and if I had gotten pregnant in high school, I wish I would have been mature enough to do what she did.
/sidetrack

And another thing, there are all these unwanted babies popping out everywhere, but people don't want to allow gay couples to marry and have the ability to adopt children and have loving, stable families. It makes me so sad.

I need to try watching Juno again. I lost interest pretty quickly the first time.

This last episode made me crazy. Too damn many people lived in the trailer, teen boyfriend worked p/t, momma's boyfriend MIGHT have worked (I saw a clip where it looked like he was getting out of a semi... I figured he was a trucker...), the house was a mess, the other grandma came to the rescue, blah blah blah...

Has anyone been to the website for this show? Do they have updates on these girls and the babies? I keep meaning to look, but I keep not doing it...

And the clip for the season finale seems to indicate that the teen couple might actually give the baby up for adoption. We'll see.

I haven't seen every episode, but I don't think what I've seen glorifies teen pregnancy. On the contrary, as someone who's worked in child welfare since 1996, I think this show does a decent job of showing that having a baby when you're a baby is no picnic.

I dont watch the show too much. I've only seen like 3 episodes. I couldnt believe the episode where the girl (Amber i think her name was) said she was so stupid for not using protection cuz the guy says he doesnt like condoms. Then the guy turns and says "I never said that". My jaw literally hit the floor. These fast @$$ little girls have no respect for their bodies these days.

One of my grown daughters alerted me to this show because oh crap, I think that this last girl (Whitney?) is a local. Here we have 4 colleges and 2 huge medical centers and aaaaah! They go out into the trailer parks waaay out in the county (her former school is very close to us but the district extends to the Alabama line) and find some fabulous kids like these.

Well, this area has some stellar programs for teen mothers but a dollar says that this girl won't look into them and in 16 years (maybe 14?), we'll be seeing a show with all 3 generations pregnant and living in the same ole trailer. I highly doubt she'd place the baby for adoption. I've taught in the region for too long to believe that; black, white, and Hispanic, they almost all keep their babies.