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AKA_Monet 02-20-2009 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by christiangirl (Post 1781959)
As much as I would love to have a husband one day, that sounds really appealing. I have always said that there would be "our" room and "my" room. It could be a study, a sunroom, a walk-in closet, whatever, but I need one enclosed space where I can have me-time. I have always been horrible at sharing and true love probably won't change that. :p

The irony!!! At first my husband's snorting--yeah, snort--kept me up, but now I am so use to it, that if it is not there, I cannot sleep... :rolleyes:

AKA_Monet 02-20-2009 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee (Post 1782109)
I feel sorry for him because he cannot find his inner peace but at the same time, he's not willing to face the painful things he has to face to find it. Because of his childhood experiences, he never learned the basics of a family being a cooperative unit. In his experience, it is "each man for himself". That simply doesn't work in a marriage and is very hard to see while you're dating because it just doesn't come up in the same ways. ...

Our occasional fights are always about money or his selfishness. I work hard to coach both him and the kids so that their relationships with each other remain good.

So, based on your thoughts, what good things is he getting out of staying emotionally distant?

The other question, is coach the right word in this case? Just asking?

As far as the bolded, I wholeheartedly agree with that statement. And guess what, pre-marital counseling is not going have this fleshed out either. It is our characters, values, etc. that we have internally that seems to make the difference. And if 2 personalities clash, collaborative work is not going to happen. Moreover, according to John Gottman, it is also how couples workout their differences and the willingness to find alternatives...

Chit, my husband and I fight, kick and scream. How we solve our problems took my relaxing my hardcore values... This doesn't say anything about your situation. All I am noting is what I chose to do. IMHO, that is what I was willing to negotiate.

KSigkid 02-20-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03 (Post 1781610)
And! These will be the same people who talk about their kids all the time.

I think a lot of it comes down to not having much of a life outside of the relationship. You don't have a lot of other things to talk about; ergo, you talk about the relationship all the time. I have a few friends--single and married--who are guilty of this.

True...if there's nothing else going on in their lives, and they have nothing else to talk about, they'll just focus on talking about each other and the marriage.

AGDee 02-20-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AKA_Monet (Post 1782185)
So, based on your thoughts, what good things is he getting out of staying emotionally distant?

The other question, is coach the right word in this case? Just asking?

It's supposed to be preventing him from being abandoned but it definitely backfires on him.

Yes, I think coach is the right word. When the kids complain to me (especially about his selfishness), I coach them on what to say to him to let him know that his actions are affecting them. Likewise, I coach him on what to say, especially to our teenage daughter, and how to act with her, reminding him that their relationship could likely define all of her future relationships with men.

christiangirl 02-20-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1782099)
This is why I insisted on two bedrooms for live-in and me when we were looking for our apartment. We share a bedroom, sure, but the second bedroom is pretty much all mine, I keep clothes in there, I go in there to read, I crash in there on nights where I end up pacing (or on GC) all night and don't want to come in and wake him up mere hours before he has to be up for work.

That might change once we get married and have kids, but I don't think it will. I was spoiled as one of two children. I always had my own room. I liked living in the dorms and then in on campus apartments but once I got the chance to have my own bedroom I took it, no matter how small the space (and seriously in the sorority house my bedroom fit a twin bed, me, and a tiny desk with a tiny computer - my clothes had to go in another room). i don't need it all the time but I do like that I have my own space.

I loved living by myself when I was in grad school.

I officially want to be AGZG when I grow up. I might as well since you've lived the story of my life. :D I absolutely break myself paying for this apartment by myself and it's little more than a cubicle (one-room studio) but it's worth to have this place good and empty when I get here!

KSUViolet06 02-20-2009 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alphagamzetagam (Post 1782099)
This is why I insisted on two bedrooms for live-in and me when we were looking for our apartment. We share a bedroom, sure, but the second bedroom is pretty much all mine, I keep clothes in there, I go in there to read, I crash in there on nights where I end up pacing (or on GC) all night and don't want to come in and wake him up mere hours before he has to be up for work.

That might change once we get married and have kids, but I don't think it will. I was spoiled as one of two children. I always had my own room. I liked living in the dorms and then in on campus apartments but once I got the chance to have my own bedroom I took it, no matter how small the space (and seriously in the sorority house my bedroom fit a twin bed, me, and a tiny desk with a tiny computer - my clothes had to go in another room). I don't need it all the time but I do like that I have my own space.

I loved living by myself when I was in grad school.

You and I REALLY might be the same person.

The only time I ever lived with another person was in the sorority house (in a double). Don't get me wrong, I ended up really liking living there, but at times the lack of "my space" was a challenge.

I live in a one bedroom apt right now and I love it (even if paying for all the bills is annoying).

As much as I want to get married and have that kind of relationship with someone, I want to keep my own space.

It's cool that you and your bf have separate areas. It's good that you were smart enough to realize that you need a "personal space" as opposed to being like "OMG we're going to be live-ins so we need to have EVERYTHING together."

agzg 02-21-2009 03:01 AM

SRSLY I love live-in to pieces but that doesn't mean I want to be with him *all* the time. :p Lately I've been sleeping in the second bedroom because he's been sick. It's not so much so I won't get sick, but more so he can get a few good night's rests without me waking him up so that he rolls over (he only snores when he sleeps on his back).

I really miss my apartment in Pittsburgh. I had three closets, all for me, and one was big enough to fit a twin sized bed in! And my own bedroom and I could pee with the bathroom door open! I know that seems weird but it was just so exciting to be able to do whatever I wanted when I wanted. It was a really tiny apartment (the one huge closet was just a fluke) but it was perfect for one person and the only real drawback was the tiny kitchen.

My kitchen is big now, I made sure of that. I like our apartment here too but my apartment in Pgh let in a lot more light - here we're right next to the building next door and most of our windows are on the side. :p

MTSUGURL 02-22-2009 12:00 PM

My best friends are a married couple that I just got to be friends with right before their wedding. We've known each other for almost 10 years now, and they've been right there with me through every awful relationship and absolutely love the current guy. I've been with them through problems in their marriage and the births of their three boys. They've been invaluable to me in so many ways, although there are times I do have to be with my single friends. There are times that being with the married friends is a little much, and yes, lots of our activities revolve around or at least include the boys, but they've known me as "Aunt Crystal" since they were born and I absolutely love them. We were friends in college and all of our families live in different towns, so we've basically been an extended family to each other. The boyfriend and I see them at least once a week and even kick the friends out for a night alone while we take care of the boys.

Now, I also have another married couple that we're fairly close to that drive me insane because they can't be apart for more than 15 minutes without calling each other constantly. I mean really - do you have to call him or text him every five minutes when we're hanging out?

AGDee 02-23-2009 07:55 PM

I had a heart to heart discussion with a man I've been seeing on and off for the last 9 years (different states, difficult situation) and we are pretty much in agreement on what our ideal relationship would be like (living in but with separate spaces). I may be moving to Atlanta in 5 years :)


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