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icelandelf 12-17-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1755783)
Did you think it would make the world better to inform him of his faux pas?

I thought I felt a ripple in the Force today. And now all is well.

I feel safe knowing that the letter police are out and tactfully taking down evildoers everywhere.;)

LadyLonghorn 12-17-2008 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia (Post 1755732)
Well guess what- I saw the gentleman wearing it today again.

He came to the reference desk asking for directions to a place. He barely spoke English- so we switched to my native language. Due to his accent, I could tell that he was not originally from the USA- this is probably relevant.

I asked him about his hat- if he had a daughter or friend in the GLO. He said the hat had been given to him. He seemed very confused when I asked him about the letters. I told him that they belonged to a sorority called "Upsilon Upsilon" (not its real name, of course). Transaction went well and he was always very polite- but I could tell that he had been given the hat as a clothing donation.

What a great way to snatch away the dignity of an already downtrodden person in the name of petty personal interests. This poor man was given the hat out of kindness and for all you know could be the only one he owns. Thanks to you he gets to be self conscious about wearing it. Since he was polite in what was the undoubtedly uncomfortable situation you placed him in, it's good to see that one person in this "transaction" has an understanding of etiquette. I hope you are proud of yourself.

Tippiechick 12-17-2008 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani (Post 1755788)
Tippie, my compass points to you!

Bwaaaahhhh. PRICELESS.

LadyLonghorn 12-17-2008 10:27 PM

In honor of sheet cake. To protect and serve.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/q...orn1/badge.jpg

Dionysus 12-17-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 1755787)
I hope the guy didn't walk away thinking, "Gee, great, now I'm wearing a hat with the name of some girl's club on it."

I hope he did. :p

indygphib 12-17-2008 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1755783)
I know you probably don't realize this... BUT... You just may have embarrassed him for no good reason.

Are you just an idiot or a bitch? Because, you had a WHOLE thread of people telling you to LET IT GO. But, did you? NO. Scandia, you HAD to "inform" him of his hat's significance. If you knew he spoke Spanish as a first language, that due to his accent he was most likely NOT even originally from here, AND that it WAS most likely a DONATION -- why did you continue to bother him about it?

Did you think it would make the world better to inform him of his faux pas?

What is it you tried to accomplish? Because, all you really did was to (probably) make him self-conscious of wearing a hat that before had just been a hat. Now, he'll know that every time he wears it, someone may see the letters and confront him.

I SWEAR you have no fucking sense.

This thread just got a hell of a lot more interesting. Thanks Tippie! :)

VandalSquirrel 12-17-2008 10:48 PM

I guess my only issue is that since you're a public librarian (and regardless of GLO clothing), if he feels uncomfortable because you pointed out he has womens clothing on he may not come back to the library out of shame and he may need the resources a public library has to offer. If he is not a person with English as a first language and different cultural attitudes, that sort of nosiness may actually hinder what you try to accomplish as a librarian. My understanding is that you're supposed to help people, even if you're not a fan of what they want to kn ow or their choice in research, and send them on their merry way with warm librarian fuzzies.

So I guess this can also extend to someone who is questioning their gender, or in the midst of changing their gender, or is transgendered, and if they are coming to a public library with alleged equal access for all, it can be a huge problem. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE judging people (especially those with Goach bags or fugly crocs), but there is a time and place and I really think it goes against librarian ethics to ask him, especially once you realized English was not his first language. Maybe you disagree with say, premarital sex, but if a patron asks you for information, you're supposed to do it without judgment or comment.

Who's the librarian police, Nancy Pearl?

epchick 12-17-2008 10:56 PM

I <3 Tippiechick

deepimpact2 12-17-2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1755783)
I know you probably don't realize this... BUT... You just may have embarrassed him for no good reason.

Are you just an idiot or a bitch? Because, you had a WHOLE thread of people telling you to LET IT GO. But, did you? NO. Scandia, you HAD to "inform" him of his hat's significance. If you knew he spoke Spanish as a first language, that due to his accent he was most likely NOT even originally from here, AND that it WAS most likely a DONATION -- why did you continue to bother him about it?

Did you think it would make the world better to inform him of his faux pas?

What is it you tried to accomplish? Because, all you really did was to (probably) make him self-conscious of wearing a hat that before had just been a hat. Now, he'll know that every time he wears it, someone may see the letters and confront him.

I SWEAR you have no fucking sense.


1. Just because Scandia asked for thoughts on the situation did not mean that she had to do what people said to do.

2. Do you think you are representing yourself or any organization you may belong to by ranting like this? Is the profanity really necessary? No wait. A better question is why that kind of language is even allowed on the
board.

3. I think you all are making too big of a deal about what she did. It didn't sound like she humiliated him. It sounded more like they had a conversation and she simply told him what the significance was of the letters on the hat. So what? That wouldn't be the first time that someone informed someone who wasn't from this country about what something means. :rolleyes:

agzg 12-17-2008 11:31 PM

The only relevant thing about his not being from the USA is that it makes you look like more of a condescending bitch.

Way to go! You've made the world safe for us greeks to wear our letters without worrying about people wearing items they probably received through charity!

icelandelf 12-17-2008 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755832)
1. Just because Scandia asked for thoughts on the situation did not mean that she had to do what people said to do.

2. Do you think you are representing yourself or any organization you may belong to by ranting like this? Is the profanity really necessary? No wait. A better question is why that kind of language is even allowed on the
board.

3. I think you all are making too big of a deal about what she did. It didn't sound like she humiliated him. It sounded more like they had a conversation and she simply told him what the significance was of the letters on the hat. So what? That wouldn't be the first time that someone informed someone who wasn't from this country about what something means. :rolleyes:

ha ha ha ha :rolleyes:

ETA: one more Ha

SWTXBelle 12-17-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by icelandelf (Post 1755843)
ha ha ha ha :rolleyes:

ETA: one more Ha

What my sister said. Plus one. Ha!

Xidelt 12-17-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755832)
1. Just because Scandia asked for thoughts on the situation did not mean that she had to do what people said to do.

2. Do you think you are representing yourself or any organization you may belong to by ranting like this? Is the profanity really necessary? No wait. A better question is why that kind of language is even allowed on the
board.

3. I think you all are making too big of a deal about what she did. It didn't sound like she humiliated him. It sounded more like they had a conversation and she simply told him what the significance was of the letters on the hat. So what? That wouldn't be the first time that someone informed someone who wasn't from this country about what something means. :rolleyes:

Isn't there somebody out perping your org that you need to go get all upset about?

Senusret I 12-18-2008 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06 (Post 1755780)
You need a hobby.

WOW, KSUV got snarky! I need to play the numbers tomorrow!

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1755784)
She has one... Remember the cosplay/doll thing she does... She just needs a life.

Gross-a-roo......

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Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1755794)
What a great way to snatch away the dignity of an already downtrodden person in the name of petty personal interests. This poor man was given the hat out of kindness and for all you know could be the only one he owns. Thanks to you he gets to be self conscious about wearing it. Since he was polite in what was the undoubtedly uncomfortable situation you placed him in, it's good to see that one person in this "transaction" has an understanding of etiquette. I hope you are proud of yourself.

One of my former students wore a HUGE Kappa Alpha Psi quilted jacket to a parent meeting one day. I though to myself "Self, that's something you don't see every day. A Latino Kappa in his 40s. I wonder where he went to school. Wow, and he doesn't speak English.... oh wait, he's not a Kappa. Awwww :(" And that's where it ended.

If I had another, better coat to give him, I would have traded him for it JUST to avoid him having embarrassing or potentially threatening situations because of it. But I didn't, so I minded my business.

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1755809)
I guess my only issue is that since you're a public librarian (and regardless of GLO clothing), if he feels uncomfortable because you pointed out he has womens clothing on he may not come back to the library out of shame and he may need the resources a public library has to offer. If he is not a person with English as a first language and different cultural attitudes, that sort of nosiness may actually hinder what you try to accomplish as a librarian. My understanding is that you're supposed to help people, even if you're not a fan of what they want to kn ow or their choice in research, and send them on their merry way with warm librarian fuzzies.

So I guess this can also extend to someone who is questioning their gender, or in the midst of changing their gender, or is transgendered, and if they are coming to a public library with alleged equal access for all, it can be a huge problem. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE judging people (especially those with Goach bags or fugly crocs), but there is a time and place and I really think it goes against librarian ethics to ask him, especially once you realized English was not his first language. Maybe you disagree with say, premarital sex, but if a patron asks you for information, you're supposed to do it without judgment or comment.

Who's the librarian police, Nancy Pearl?

I really like you.

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Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 1755850)
Isn't there somebody out perping your org that you need to go get all upset about?

FTW, with an assist:

http://www.bet.com/Assets/BET/Publis...-GayAKA_10.jpg

nittanyalum 12-18-2008 12:28 AM

Ok, the last 3 pages have been worth the price of admission. Thanks, folks.

And all I can say is, WOW, if KSUViolet's even in here talking smack, that's sayin' somethin!

(and by the way, keep it up, KSUV, I love that side of you! ;))

Unregistered- 12-18-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1755855)
WOW, KSUV got snarky!

I thought that too. I wanted to run up and down the street and celebrate.

FTW INDEED.

Tippiechick 12-18-2008 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755832)
1. Just because Scandia asked for thoughts on the situation did not mean that she had to do what people said to do.

2. Do you think you are representing yourself or any organization you may belong to by ranting like this? Is the profanity really necessary? No wait. A better question is why that kind of language is even allowed on the
board.

3. I think you all are making too big of a deal about what she did. It didn't sound like she humiliated him. It sounded more like they had a conversation and she simply told him what the significance was of the letters on the hat. So what? That wouldn't be the first time that someone informed someone who wasn't from this country about what something means. :rolleyes:

This is coming from someone who thinks it is ok to remove items of clothing off people who wear their letters (not necessarily by you, but advocating the action of others who do). I am so hurt. *lollers*

I don't recall giving you a hard time about your choice of how YOU represent your group. So, I am not sure why you chose to give me a hard time. If that is how you choose to interact with me, then so be it.

But, I think it says a lot that you don't think what she did was bad.

Oh, and I would tell you that the swearing issue has been raised before. My response is that if John didn't like the word FUCK -- he would have banned it along with some of the words on here that are banned. Since he is well aware of my swearing, I would say it is not an issue for you to worry about. If it offends you, feel free to put me on ignore. I have no plans to fucking stop swearing. And, I am quite confident that at some point in time, at least one of my founders probably swore or said something slightly dirty...

Senusret I 12-18-2008 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1755858)
And all I can say is, WOW, if KSUViolet's even in here talking smack, that's sayin' somethin!

(and by the way, keep it up, KSUV, I love that side of you! ;))

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Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1755859)
I thought that too. I wanted to run up and down the street and celebrate.

It always starts with one snarky comment. 18 months later, she'll be the female version of me and everyone will wonder what went wrong.

Welcome to the dark side, KSUV.

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Xidelt (Post 1755850)
Isn't there somebody out perping your org that you need to go get all upset about?

I bet it took all of your brain cells to come up with that "witty" remark. lol

DrPhil 12-18-2008 12:37 AM

I don't think I would've said anything to him. However, I have given polite and even jokingly serious advice to people who unknowingly, or knowingly, wore an organization's letters. I'd rather I neutrally say something than for them to run across a lunatic member.

This is not one of those instances. Similarly, years ago, we were doing service at a food bank and a homeless man saw our lettered tshirts and took off his jacket to show us that he had on our symbols. We stopped and stared at him because it took us off guard. But when he got in line for his pancakes and sausages, we didn't say anything to him. Not knowing this man's education level or story (since there are homeless people with degrees and who are members of sororities and fraternities), we assumed that he knows where he got the shirt from and knows that the shirt probably belonged to something he 1) may know nothing about and 2) obviously isn't a member of. No point in going any further.

We have been laughing at that story for 10 years.

I do think that some people are overreacting to Scandia. And she's silly for giving you all an update. LOL.

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1755861)
But, I think it says a lot that you don't think what she did was bad.

I think it says a lot that you can't get your point across without using profanity.

Tippiechick 12-18-2008 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755872)
I think it says a lot that you can't get your point across without using profanity.

Oh, I COULD. But, it wouldn't entertain me as much...

Is this where we are at now? You can't think of anything else to do but insult people... Huh.

Xidelt 12-18-2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755868)
I bet it took all of your brain cells to come up with that "witty" remark. lol

for those that are supposedly stupid and low-iq, such as myself, allow me to interpret this high-brow comeback:

you thtoopid!

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick (Post 1755873)
Is this where we are at now? You can't think of anything else to do but insult people... Huh.

Odd that you are saying that to me with all the nastiness that is going on around here. My comments are not nearly as insulting as other comments have been.

DrPhil 12-18-2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyLonghorn (Post 1755794)
What a great way to snatch away the dignity of an already downtrodden person in the name of petty personal interests. This poor man was given the hat out of kindness and for all you know could be the only one he owns. Thanks to you he gets to be self conscious about wearing it. Since he was polite in what was the undoubtedly uncomfortable situation you placed him in, it's good to see that one person in this "transaction" has an understanding of etiquette. I hope you are proud of yourself.

Good grief. Cue the violins.

L-O-L

Tippiechick 12-18-2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755876)
Odd that you are saying that to me with all the nastiness that is going on around here. My comments are not nearly as insulting as other comments have been.

Well, YOU are the only one that seems to have taken issue with me and questioned my representation of my sorority. So, YES. I am saying that to you.

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1755855)

Are you #4? You need to tell your front that he's slacking a bit.

Senusret I 12-18-2008 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755880)
Are you #4? You need to tell your front that he's slacking a bit.

No, that's your father.

Xidelt 12-18-2008 12:46 AM

Ass kicking from Sen in 3,2,1....

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1755877)
Good grief. Cue the violins.

L-O-L

I agree.

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1755881)
No, that's your father.

lol I expected more from you. The whole "your daddy" comeback went out in the eighties. Seriously.

VandalSquirrel 12-18-2008 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1755855)



I really like you.



FTW, with an assist:

http://www.bet.com/Assets/BET/Publis...-GayAKA_10.jpg

I likes you too. Who knew a honky in Idaho could learn something from critical studies ;)

The MiAKAs kill me, my favorite of all time was the video of the Wendy's drive through probate...

KSUViolet06 12-18-2008 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1755858)
Ok, the last 3 pages have been worth the price of admission. Thanks, folks.

And all I can say is, WOW, if KSUViolet's even in here talking smack, that's sayin' somethin!

Quote:

Originally Posted by OTW (Post 1755859)
I thought that too. I wanted to run up and down the street and celebrate.



FTW INDEED.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1755864)
It always starts with one snarky comment. 18 months later, she'll be the female version of me and everyone will wonder what went wrong

LOL.

I only got involved because this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. It's not as if he is a perp or someone who means malice. So you got somebody told about letters that aren't yours. What have you accomplished? Not a thing.

DrPhil 12-18-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755883)
I agree.

Don't get it twisted. You were being dramatic, too. Who nominated you the sorority representation and cursing police?

(Maybe the same people who nominated me the dramatic police :p)

Senusret I 12-18-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755886)
lol I expected more from you. The whole "your daddy" comeback went out in the eighties. Seriously.

LOL....the irony is that I didn't expect anything more from you. Thanks for maintaining the status quo, Sour Mu Pi.

Senusret I 12-18-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1755889)
Don't get it twisted. You were being dramatic, too. Who nominated you the sorority representation and cursing police?

(Maybe the same people who nominated me the dramatic police :p)

LMAO for the edit.

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1755890)
LOL....the irony is that I didn't expect anything more from you. Thanks for maintaining the status quo, Sour Mu Pi.

lol jealous much?

DrPhil 12-18-2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1755891)
LMAO for the edit.

Hey boo!

deepimpact2 12-18-2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1755889)
Don't get it twisted. You were being dramatic, too. Who nominated you the sorority representation and cursing police?

(Maybe the same people who nominated me the dramatic police :p)

And how was I dramatic? I simply responded to the OP and folks around here got up in arms. They were the ones being dramatic.

Senusret I 12-18-2008 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2 (Post 1755892)
lol jealous much?

Of what? Yet another crazy Spelman AKA? Girl, bye.


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