On a likeability factor, I agree wholeheartedly. As for game play - Matty is going to be a challenge king on anything physical (he's the only physical threat left!!), he also hasn't angered anyone yet, he's a straight shooter. Sugar has the hidden II, and she has allied herself in votes with the right people at the right time (but, maybe its been dumb luck, or susceptibility to manipulation - at least that's how the edit makes it seem). And, Bob has performed physically in challenges way better than many of the others despite his age. He has somewhat coasted through the strategy stuff, but designing that realistic looking idol out of resin and pieces of crap he's picked up along the way was genius, Sugar might even be fooled into thinking that a second one was planted. (at least I hope so)

I agree that Corrine can be a bitch, and she showed her true colors the last couple of weeks, but she doesn't bother me any where near as much as crazy eyed Crystal, a**hole Randy, and getting too big for his britches Kenny.

I can see how you don't like Kenny... he is coming off a little cocky... BUT I think he has deserved his spot in the final 3, hell, he is still there, so I think him Matty and Sugar should be the final 3... but there is still time for some huge powerplays from others that could change that...

I don't think Sugar has allied with the right people... I think she's turned away from the right people. Sugar saw Ace's game and got rid of him, and right now, she seems suspicious of Kenny. I think she knows what she's doing more so than some of the other people who are left.

Bob is still physically strong. Does anyone remember last week's challenge against Matty? Everyone else dropped out, but he held strong and almost beat him. If he can compete with Matty, he's ok in my book.

I wouldn't mind if Kenny was in the top 3, but him and Crystal are pretty much a package deal. At least, that's what Crystal keeps saying. I don't know how long Kenny is going to be loyal to her, but if she gets voted out and it's clear to her that Kenny betrayed her, it's not going to be pretty when it comes to her being part of the jury.

Kenny will be loyal to her as long as she is there... he needs numbers, and he can convince her to do what he wants... I think this next episode will be exciting with Randy and Crystal together... Sugar wants Randy gone... Corrinne will be scrambling like a nut case... Kenny will be over confident thinking he has Sugar in his pocket... etc...

"Corinne Kaplan (29)
Hometown: Los Angeles, California
Occupation: Pharmaceutical Sales

Corinne Kaplan takes great pride in being able to manipulate the people around her. ....This catty former sorority girl uses her wit and sex appeal to further her goals."

Does anyone know what sorority Corinne was in? SDT at UCLA? Just wondering. Is there an SDT there at UCLA?
After all, this is GC..surely someone is sorority obsessed enough to go out and do the work for me to find this information? :p

HEE

Agree completely.

Again, I agree. I think she's a lot smarter than the others have been giving her credit for being.

Meanwhile, Marcus, Charlie and Corinne are being (have been) outplayed.

I agree that Sugar is much smarter than the others realize. I stated that first when she got the HII back from Ace. She's still sitting pretty with that. I liked Marcus so I'm sorry to see him gone, but it was a very smart game move. Corinne's strategy totally backfired on her and I was so glad. My mean side wants her to be the last of her alliance to go, just to kind of rub it in to her. I am very much enjoying this season. The blindsides have been classic. The arrogance has been punished and the "losers" are winning. It's kind of like Revenge of the Nerds :) For Sugar and Susie to be the first to get fire during that challenge was awesome! Sugar has to be careful at this point to make sure she can get jury votes though.

I just feel like much of this season has been the results of the production team meddling. I get that the game would have been fairly predictable had things continued the way they were, and being flexible is absolutely part of the game, but there's been almost TOO much mixing up and too many twists for me. If it weren't for the last tribal switch being 100% luck of the draw (literally), I would have to accuse the producers of stacking and re-stacking the tribes to get rid of who they wanted to see gone.

I think you are right, and I TOTALLY don't care... this is a fun season, and if it wasn't for paranoia, Ace, Charlie and Marcus would STILL be there...

Ok. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I predict (read: HOPE) that Randy is voted out tonight. At this point, almost any of them could go home and I wouldn't care, but if I had my choice, Randy would get his torch snuffed.

I am LOVING this season. Not only did they get rid of the survivor that I hate the most, they did it in such a sneaky way!

Tonight had to be one of the best tribal councils in the history of Survivor. I can't wait to read Jeff's blog at ew.com for his take on it. Personally, my vote is with Bob. He has an uphill battle, but I am looking forward to seeing if he can overcome it.

Oh man! I laughed through the entire second half of the episode last night. I almost felt bad for a second, but then thought.. what better way to get rid of the most obnoxious person on the show!

As much as I don’t like Crystal, I hate Randy even more, and when she was voting and talking loud enough for everyone else to hear, that was awesome. And even Charlie and Marcus were laughing after Randy left. And I love the way Jeff actually explained what happens when someone uses an immunity idol before saying that it wasn't real. It was classic.

And Bob is my hero! I can’t believe he did that. But honestly, it was probably his only chance to make nice with the other alliance.

Next week should be interesting though, with the ACTUAL second idol possibly coming into play. If it does, Bob could gain Corinne's trust back and screw over the other alliance. But he’d probably be stupid to do that, as they still outnumber him by a great deal. I almost see his telling Corinne about the immunity idol as the beginning of some plan to have them take her out before him. But we’ll see.

I agree completely! I never would've classified Survivor as a comedy until last night's epi. I loved it. :D

I'm pretty positive Bob is bluffing. Four reasons:

1) If it were going to matter later, wouldn't we have seen Marcus tell Bob?
2) If Bob knew where it was, would he have said, while on Exile Island, that he needed the idol because he was in "deep doo doo" in the tribe?
3) If he really knew where it was, wouldn't it have made sense for him to let Corinne and Randy in on it last week, so that it was Sugar and company blindsided?
4) I still have the episode where Charlie was voted out on DVD. At the "previously, on Survivor" part at the beginning, they show the bottle floating in the water, and there is clearly something tied around it.

But Thursday night was classic. It was simply amazing how sure Corinne and Randy were that Bob would find the idol -- I guess because, as Corinne says, Sugar is so stupid she'd never find it. :rolleyes: And I loved Randy declaring it an "accolade" to get voted out by those "losers."

I’m not really disagreeing with you about Bob bluffing (because we all know he’s sneaky as hell!), but you never know…

1.) “…wouldn’t we have seen Marcus tell Bob?” … Welcome to editing. The producers could have just left that out to make the show more interesting and to have everyone wonder.

2.) I can definitely see your point here. But at the same time, maybe he just wanted a second one?

3.) Not necessarily. He knew that there was a very good chance of him going home last week. With the way he’s been playing, I highly doubt that he’d just come right out and tell Randy and Corinne about the idol if he thought he could play it off using the fake one first (which obviously worked).

4.) Again, a very good possibility that the idol is still out there in the middle of the ocean. If it is, and this is just another strategic move on Bob’s part (which I’ve already said would not be a surprise at all), and it actually works to get Corinne voted off, then Bob is officially a genius.

And if this is a bluff, and Corinne leaves, Bob should simultaneously be trying to get Sugar and Matty on his side. I think his only hope would be to have Matty and Sugar match up with him without anyone else knowing, to have the two of them convince Crystal and Kenny to vote out Susie, while telling them that Bob will be voted out at the following tribal council.. but not really. Then... Matty, Sugar and Bob take out Crystal and Kenny after that, and they’ll be guaranteed the top 3 spots. This would probably leave each of them with a pretty even chance of winning.

I hate the recap show. I forgot that it's usually a recap show on Thanksgiving.

i watched survior during the first few seasons. then it got boring and i stopped watching. this one is actually pretty good. i am glad to see the recap because i missed half of it.

the recap show aired some of the people's casting videos. corrinne said she attended school in florida and was in a sorority. does anyone know which one?

She was in ZTA

I'm officially rooting for Sugar. Corrine is a bitch who needs to STFU, especially in her current situation. Sugar may be an out-of-work waitress, but she's been the most powerful player most of the game. Corrine can SAY that the jury would never vote for Sugar, but in the end, it's almost always come down to gameplay, rather than who pissed less people off.

I love Sugar. I think she's way more powerful in this game than people think.

True, but it seems like, in the past, there would have been at least some sort of clue this was coming. And in his talk-to-the-camera, Marcus did brag about getting ten people to throw the idol in the ocean, not about getting 10 people to think he threw it in the ocean. (Who actually threw it in, Marcus or Randy? And either way, they were close together, and everyone else was where they could see. Wouldn't Randy or someone have seen Marcus make the switch?)

It just seems really odd to me that if Bob knew there was an immunity idol hidden somewhere at camp, he wouldn't have already claimed it. I guess we'll see Thursday.

That would be a good move for Bob. Sugar and Matty should be wanting to take Crystal or Susie to the final three. Maybe Ken.

Ideally, Matty and Sugar would probably want Crystal to be with them in the final three. Problem is, they're going to have a really hard time getting Crystal, Kenny and probably Susie to turn on each other, so that could just be wishful thinking.

What they COULD do (if Corinne leaves this week) is tell those three that everyone is going to blindside Sugar. Secretly, Sugar knows this and uses the immunity idol. Those votes for her won't count, and Matty, Sugar and Bob all vote for either Crystal, Kenny or Susie.

And did anyone see the preview for the next episode? They briefly showed Bob and Corinne talking, and then Bob says to the camera, on his own, that he has an idol. They showed it briefly, but I didn't see if it was real. I'm guessing it is, though.

And they also said that there's a marriage proposal... what?!

I did see that. Do you think that might have been Sugar's idol? It will be interesting, to say the least.

I think it really may have been the idol that Marcus supposedly threw out to sea (like Bob said). Somehow Marcus kept it. I dunno, that'd be AWESOME though if that's the case.

Yea, wait... what did Sugar do with her idol? I know she kept it in her bag, way back when everyone found it… but where has she kept it since? I don’t believe they’ve mentioned anything about this, but I could be wrong.

What if Bob took it :confused: He could either use it, only telling Corinne about it… he could use it to blackmail Sugar and those people in her alliance… or he could fake out Corinne and give it back to Sugar.

Ahh! I need it to be Thursday!

Yeah, I know I'm quoting myself. I looked at the CBS recaps, and there it says that Randy tossed the bottle in the ocean. So, it seems that if Marcus really did make a switch, Randy would have had to have known it.

Because I seem to have too much time on my hands (or an aversion to getting done what I need to get done), I went to CBS.com and looked at clips from the feast. I really don't think the idol they showed briefly in the preview is the same as the one from the feast. The one they showed in the preview have lots of colored beads on it. You don't see any colored beads on the one from the feast. There's also a scene where Randy talks about having "given the idol to the ocean." And check this, where Bob holds up the idol (the one they show in the preview, not the one he made on Exile Island) and says "that would fool me."

Meanwhile, am I the only one just learning that Matty is James Whitmore's grandson?

Yea, that idol definitely doesn't look like the other one. If this is another strategic move on Bob's part, and it works, then either Bob is very smart or Corinne is very dumb (and I'd tend to lean toward the latter). I want Corinne out of the game so badly, but I'd hope (for her own sake) that she'd be able to figure out that Bob is lying... or at least be just a little skeptical of him. If she just falls right into it, then she deserves to leave the game... especially because Bob just tricked Randy, a member of their alliance, and because they're behind in the numbers game... by a lot. Bob was clearly working with the other alliance to get rid of Randy (and to make him look like an idiot), and if Corinne is 100% sure that Bob wouldn't do that to her, then she's sadly mistaken.

Maybe not so clearly. Bob voted for Susie -- the only reason to do that is so that the Sadly Mistaken One (who, after all, still seems to think it impossible that Sugar could have found the immunity idol during all her time at Exile Island) might believe he's still with her.

I vaguely recall someone telling her to start wearing it at all times now and to never let it leave her sight. May be wrong though?

What? Apparently, I'm the last to know that Matty is James Whitmore's grandson - I had no idea!

I also had completely missed the part when Bob said he had another idol. I need to start paying more attention to the previews, I guess!

This is probably a stupid question, but if someone (Bob, for instance, since he's the one with another idol) goes through Sugar's things and takes her idol, is it now his? Can it really be that easy? (Completely unethical, of course, but this is Survivor we're talking about here.)

Yea, but Corinne knows that Bob made the fake idol and passed it on to Randy. I think that Bob voted for Susie to make it look to RANDY like it wasn't him who tricked him. Remember, you have to keep the jury happy, too. And whether Sugar has the idol or not, Corinne should be worried and watching her back, knowing that even if Sugar was voted out, they're still coming up short in the numbers game.

I know that Ace told her way back that she shouldn't keep it in her bag and that she should hold on to it. But I don't know if they've mentioned where she's been keeping it since then.

She knows Bob passed it to Randy and she may (should!) suspect that Bob knew it was fake, but does she know that he knew it was fake? I didn't see anything showing that she knew that. I expect Bob to tell her he thought it was real. It doesn't do Bob any good just to fool Randy while letting Corinne know that he knew the idol was fake -- she'd make sure the rest of the jury found out.

And SydneyK, I could be wrong, but yes, I think that the idol can be stolen. And yes, he's James Whitmore's grandson. Apparently, he had a sizeable trust fund from granddaddy that came to him when he was 18. He says it was an education trust fund. It's all gone now.

I'm pretty sure everyone was high-fiving Bob when they got back to camp after the last tribal council. If Corinne didn't see what was going on, then she's definitely dumb.

If Bob makes it to the final three, I imagine he’s going to have some explaining to do. But I still think that no matter what, he has just as good of a chance at winning as anyone else there. I mean… he’s Bob! If he fooled me, and everyone I was in an alliance with, and he somehow made it to the top three when the numbers were stacked against him for so long, I’d vote for him to win. Other than doing what’s necessary for him to win, he hasn’t pissed anyone off. Excluding Matty, I don’t think there’s really anyone else you can say that about.

I'm confused. When did they show the return to camp? Didn't the episode end with the usual arial view of everyone carrying their torches away from tribal council? The return to camp should start this week's episode. Did I completely miss something?

Even so, Bob can tell Corinne that everybody else assumes he tricked Randy and that he's letting them think that to keep himself a little safer, but that he really didn't know. Since Corinne thinks she and Bob are the only ones out there with any smarts at all, it might not be that hard a sell.

Maybe I'm thinking about the episode before? When everyone was excited about Sugar voting their way, leaving Randy, Corinne and Bob with fewer people in their alliance than the other one.

Either way, you're right about Corinne... she thinks she's the best thing since sliced bread, and that everyone else is too dumb to play the game.... and I guarantee it's going to come back and bite her.

Meanwhile, Bob has to know that if he makes it to the final three, someone on the jury is going to know what he did. It's all going to come out. Who knows, one of the final three players could expose him. Anything to win, right?

According to wiki, it can't be stolen. Otherwise, I'm sure Crystal would have kept it when she found it in Sugar's bag.

I haven't seen the preview where they talk about a marriage proposal, but since this is the week the family members probably come, I'm betting Matty proposes to Jamie.

Good call, AlphaFrog. I bet you're right.

(And, good to see you here!)

Definitely forgot about the family members coming. I haven't really watched this show since the first season. I bet that's it. :)