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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706304)
1. what kinds of things are discussed at the decision phase when the girls have gone through and met some of the new pnms? There are so many girls to consider, how do they keep them all straight?
2. When you say, "keep your options open" regarding putting down after each time you go through your 'top' houses. I'm sure it will be just as nerve wracking for my daughter to have to choose based on such quick meetings. therefore, how can she keep her options 'open' while continuing to cut and they are doing the same?
3. maximize by going to all the events. I'm sure she'll do that. but what girl wouldn't? I'm a little confused by this, as I'm sure my daughter wouldn't refuse an invitation by any house, and would feel honored that they invite back.
4. so they keep inviting my daughter back...and she's down to 3 of her top choices - because she has to pick only 3...which may or may not line up with the ones that liked her the best. How can she make a wise choice? I'm sure as hosteses, none of the sisters would be rude, therefore, maybe my daughter might mistake etiquette and kindness for an interest and chance not getting a bid.
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1. We have our ways to keep PNMs straight. The method each chapter uses to select its members is unique to that chapter and is the private business of that chapter.
2. When your daughter ranks, she doesn't necessarily "cut" chapters. The rankings are only used in the event that your daughter gets invited back by more than the maximum number for the next round, so she can be matched and scheduled for the next round. A simple example, say 9 of her top 10 invite her back. The program would see if the first one on her crop list invited her back. If they did, she will attend their party. If not, the program will look at the next chapter (in order of her preference) on the list and so on.
3. All this means is not skipping any parties and attending all events for which you were invited that you have room for (unless you will be absent for an excused reason). Who wouldn't do that? Rude little twits. Some campuses require PNMs to attend all parties to be eligible for a bid. If you skip ABC's party (for an unexcused reason), you wouldn't be eligible for a bid from ANY chapter.
4. She should not worry about which chapter she thinks likes her best when she ranks---the important part is which chapter she likes best. She ranks, the chapters rank, and Panhellenic matches up PNMs and chapters.
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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706313)
does it ever happen that she has a conflict of an event between two houses? I mean, when you say girls "cut" going - could it be because they can't be at two places at once? and when do girls decide to 'cut'. It is my understand that..
1. first weekend on a friday and saturday, you attend all 15 or so houses
2. on Sunday she goes to 10 houses - which translates to not attending 5 (does she not get invited back? or can she still attend al 15?)
3. Monday she is down to 6 houses.... again, who is doing the cutting? can she keep attending as many as she wants? (provided she gets an invite from all). And is there such a thing that she might not get invited to at least 6 by monday.
4. the following sunday, she is down to 3 houses...in the interim, during the week, how did she go from 6 to 3? did they not invite her back, or is she only allowed to attend 3?
this is all so confusing...
and finally, on bid day, if she DOESNT get a call? that's a GOOD thing????
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15-10-6-3 are the maximum number of chapters a PNM can attend each round. Sororities make their cuts, and PNMs are scheduled according to preference if they receive more than the maximum number of invites. There will be no conflict because Panhellenic will give your daughter her unique schedule for her parties each round. For example, the second round, PNMs attend 10 parties maximum. Each chapter also has 10 parties of PNMs, so it's not one continuous party.
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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706315)
oh, and i didn't give her any letters either. do they really look at those things? i mean, i know some women who would speak lovely on her behalf that were in sororities...but i guess i just dropped the ball.
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How important recs are depends on the school. We don't know where your daughter attends school so we don't know how important they will be for her.
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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706329)
i did read most of them. lol but i was still a little confused. i guess i can't understand that if a girl chooses 3 sororities, and they have invited her back...how can she not get in?
also, would an email suffice to the sorority from my lady friends? or should my daughter carry around copies of this letter for all the sororites to have on hand? i don't know how would be a good time to get these letters to the houses. Also, does her referal have to be from a former greek? Or what if my lady friend belongs to house XYZ, I don't think house ABC would want a referal letter from my friend who was in XYZ?
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Some schools do guarantee a bid to a PNM who ranks all of her chapters where she attended preference.
2. Do not send your daughter with the letters and do not have sorority alumnae simply send emails. Each sorority will have a form (available on their website, usually the sisters only side) to fill out. The form is to be sent with a supplementary letter, collectively known as a recommendation, or "rec". MAYBE chapters will accept a faxed rec or a pdf, but definitely have your friends call the chapters to see if this is acceptable. You could also offer to overnight the recs in the mail?
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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706339)
10 events in one day - what if she has class? the day she is "down to" 6 is on a monday, which is a class day. what should she do?
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Recruitment will be scheduled in the evening. If she has class, she will notify her recruitment counselor and will be excused. She should not miss class for recruitment.
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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706344)
Well, i think i dropped the ball because rush starts this weekend and i wouldn't impose on my friends at this late date - the letter couldn't get there before the weekend anyway. and I don't know how to get this form.
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It doesn't hurt to ask. If a chapter accepts faxed recs, pdf recs or you want to overnight the recs, those are options. You don't know how to get the forms because you can't. You have to be a member of a sorority to get their form.
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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706351)
well I'm not sure which friends were in which houses. it's not something we discuss. haha. and are the forms online forms - because then I wouldn't mind asking. but like I said, rush is this weekend, and I don't really want to ask these ladies to run around trying to get a form from the university. Also, all references have to be from ladies? I know a few fraternity dads too. ha
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It certainly wouldn't hurt to ask.:) Yes, the forms are online, on the (Inter)National website, not at the University. Only an alumna (or in some cases, a collegian of another chapter) of XYZ can write a rec for XYZ.
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Originally Posted by scoobydoo
(Post 1706358)
AZ - are you a mother of a daughter who is an AZ now? Do all you ladies have daughters in houses?
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The vast majority of us on Greek Chat are Greek ourselves.