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Tinia2 08-03-2008 07:41 AM

and now they are going after the new york times. this, out of all the junk mccains champaign has pulled this week alone, almost just about makes some sense and as the story shows could have some benefit to them in some areas or quarters:
http://news.aol.com/elections/articl...970x1200352336

KSigkid 08-03-2008 09:14 AM

Obama's shift on drilling?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._drilling.html

I hate posting this stuff, because these types of story are useless without context. But, I'm kind of sick of this ridiculous idea that McCain is shifting more or less than Obama on issues.

I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.

Tinia2 08-03-2008 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1690192)
Obama's shift on drilling?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._drilling.html

I hate posting this stuff, because these types of story are useless without context. But, I'm kind of sick of this ridiculous idea that McCain is shifting more or less than Obama on issues.

I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.

i agree with you ksgkid. this from factcheck.org, while not about this story, is about drilling and may give some context and background to it. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2..._nonsense.html and
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ut_energy.html
after this weekend, factcheck and other sites like it will not doubt have updates sometime this upcoming week.

SWTXBelle 08-03-2008 10:25 AM

I'm tired of politics becoming this giant game of "gotcha!" where everyone waits to jump on a candidate if he/she misspeaks, changes his/her mind, or seems to "flip/flop". I'm certainly all for holding candidates accountable, but it is being taken to an extreme.

KSigkid 08-03-2008 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1690204)
I'm tired of politics becoming this giant game of "gotcha!" where everyone waits to jump on a candidate if he/she misspeaks, changes his/her mind, or seems to "flip/flop". I'm certainly all for holding candidates accountable, but it is being taken to an extreme.

This is just a natural product of a longer election cycle, and a media that covers every single word.

I love politics, and find all this talk very interesting, but I agree that it gets to be a bit much.

DSTCHAOS 08-03-2008 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1690192)
Obama's shift on drilling?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._drilling.html

I hate posting this stuff, because these types of story are useless without context. But, I'm kind of sick of this ridiculous idea that McCain is shifting more or less than Obama on issues.

I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.

This is an Obama-fan/anti-McCain thread. Stop leveling the field.

DeltAlum 08-03-2008 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1690192)
I really wish the Republicans hadn't used the "flip-flop" strategy against Kerry the last time around. Politicians have changes of heart and policy throughout the campaign anyway, and there were LOTS of other areas to use to criticize Kerry.

Amen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle (Post 1690204)
I'm tired of politics becoming this giant game of "gotcha!" where everyone waits to jump on a candidate if he/she misspeaks, changes his/her mind, or seems to "flip/flop". I'm certainly all for holding candidates accountable, but it is being taken to an extreme.

And Amen.

KSigkid 08-03-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1690219)
This is an Obama-fan/anti-McCain thread. Stop leveling the field.

Haha, sorry about that; I am, after all, a great thread-killer (threads seem to die out after I post).

DSTCHAOS 08-03-2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSigkid (Post 1690228)
Haha, sorry about that; I am, after all, a great thread-killer (threads seem to die out after I post).

It has withstood the both of us. It's here to stay. :)

DeltAlum 08-03-2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1690231)
It has withstood the both of us. It's here to stay. :)

God help us. (Sorry, I don't use little smilies -- but if I did, there would be one here)

DSTCHAOS 08-03-2008 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1690234)
God help us. (Sorry, I don't use little smilies -- but if I did, there would be one here)

LOL. Isn't it funny that it's gotten easier to convey and grasp sarcasm and humor with a smiley? The internet is evil.

Oh yeah...back to McCain's flip flops. Much better than Crocs.

DeltAlum 08-03-2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1690235)
sarcasm and humor with a smiley? The internet is evil.

Sarcasm on GC? Say it ain't so!

(Hey! Crocs are made by a Colorado company and help our economy. Lay off!) (Imagine a little smilie here)

DSTCHAOS 08-03-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltAlum (Post 1690241)
Sarcasm on GC? Say it ain't so!

(Hey! Crocs are made by a Colorado company and help our economy. Lay off!) :):mad::p:o:(;):D:cool::eek:

I have forced smilies upon you. Thank me later.

I wonder what the candidates think about Crocs? Do they wear them? If not, what is that saying about their stance on the economy?

On another note, whoa at international Crocs: http://www.crocs.com/international/

DeltAlum 08-03-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1690243)
I have forced smilies upon you. Thank me later.

Getting back to the thread, maybe I'll have to flip/flop on the use of smilies.

On the other hand, I'd rather use Crocks than flip/flops.

(Actually, I don't wear either)

You can all groan now.

Tinia2 08-04-2008 08:55 AM

this sort of falls into this thread. seems as if mccains campaign got a supporter upset with him as a result of last weeks ad with hilton and obama. ie the hilton family.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080803/...n_hilton_s_mom

added edit-full story from original site
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_116625.html


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