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Tom, there is no way of knowing how a kid will turn out simply through rush. It isn't hard to put on a good show for us. I've seen it countless times. Kid comes through rush and we think he is the greatness. Turns out he's a complete tool.

I don't care anything about numbers. Most really good houses don't care either.......they get what they comfortably need every year and it works great.

This is one of the most serious and important posts you have made and you are 100% correct.

We as GLOs can only hope for the very best in recruitment.

Some will make it and others not make it!:cool:

I have to make an addendum to it.

We know that we will make some bad choices during rush. We know we will make at least 5 bad choices (because we're idiots, sometimes). We try to make good choices, but usually around 5 slip through the cracks...even if we signed them before school started.

EW;
I am, after seeing you post here over the past year or so, rather confused over your sudden expertise and experience.
You changed schools, you posted that you choose not to re-affiliated with "new" chapter as you did not think too highly of the Brothers there, and as well as not even being on campus and being out of touch with events there.
And during all this, you are somehow involved with IFC and rush rather that the chapter that you never affiliated with???
What , you kissed and made up? If so, do they know what you said about them???

Absolutely on all counts.

Thanks for keeping up with my social life. I don't know what I would do without GreekChat making sure everythings okay.

No, not keeping up with your life at all. If I was, I would have also pointed out the number of times you have been caught mis-speaking by other people on your campus(s).
Whatever.

Good of you to take over the spelling queen bee chores!:D

Have a swell!

Tom: we initiate 3/5 of our pledges because we WANT to initiate 3/5 of our pledges. We strive to get the best guys we can and drop the rest. Basically it boils down to whether or not they can DO something for us, its rare to let someone in JUST because we like their company. We want them to contribute athletically, academically, and/or socially.

Just tryin' to help you out:D

Thanks!:)

PhiGam, I still do not understand your way of thinking? You plan on only taking 3/5s ?

Then it seems that some who are recruiting are not doing their jobs in the selection process.

We had a Fraternity who would pledge 60-80 and maybe inititated only 6-8. It took a few years before they were off campus and gone. Also at one time the chapters were holding @ 60 members as actives and now, we run @ 35-50 only. @ 6 % of campus population.:o

Its not necessarily a "plan," it just always happens that way. We select the guys that we feel can be good brothers by the end of their pledge semester and contributing to the house, if that doesn't happen then they're gone.

Plus, Tom, initiating 60% =/= only initiating 10%.

Did I not just explain this?

Okay, here is where I agree with you.

You cannot always pick the cream of the crop and if they do not want to abide by the rules, learn, pay their dues, or get involved along with GPA then there is a reason.

But when GPA comes up, I always find study time not a hazing priority as that is why most go to College and Graduate.