I disagree. My boyfriend's little is 25 and was just elected the new Consul for the coming year. He wasn't able to go to college until later than most, but he brings a lot of experience and insight with his age and unique perspective.

EW: What about someone who had served in the military and didn't start college until later because he was on active duty? Would that be different for you?

Why would he serve before going to college? Probably because he is poor. That's not top tier.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Not necessarily, thats a very harsh *stereotype*. While I'll agree it is generally true, it does not always apply. There are a lot of legislators that have served in the military, I'd say they aren't at the bottom of the totem pole now are they?

And wouldn't everyone over 18 be of age to gain entrance to a bar? I've only seen once case of some one younger than that pledging.

I know of one too, not on this board. At some third tier college somewhere in Arkansas.

However, traditional chapters generally pledge guys in their freshman year when they're 18. Not sophomore or junior or whatever.

In case you were unsure, that's not what *I* think, but what someone from a "fratty traditional Southern top tier" chapter who likes to constantly remind everyone on GC of that might say.

What's wrong with going to parties while pledging? I thought the point of joining a fraternity was to be social and meet more people?

If only there were establishments in college towns that would tacitly accept obviously fake ID's... we might even call them "freshman bars". Oh well, I guess they'll just have to wait until they're 21 to go out in Athens/Tuscaloosa/Oxford/Statesboro, just like everyone else.

In some states, you have to be 21 to even get into a bar (even if you're not drinking) unless it's a TGIFriday's type of place, and even those often have rules about people who are underage (i.e. cannot be in certain areas at certain times).

There are very few places I have been that you have to be 21 to enter a bar. Certainly never been to a club you have had to be 21 to into. And very few that actually care if youre a minor walking around with alcohol as long as you didnt walk to the bar and buy it yourself.

Well, you do live in a silly state that doesn't allow the sale of beer in supermarkets or convenience stores and only recently allowed select liquor stores to be open on Sundays. :p

Where the hell are you supposed buy beer? And I thought most states had laws prohibiting the sale of alcohol over a certain percentage on sundays.

You have to go to a beer distributor or a bottle shop to buy beer.

It ain't easy... http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian....-3215894.shtml

Wow, I didn't know about the fireworks thing. Yeah, that law makes perfect sense. So my college-aged brother can carry a concealed gun but can't buy fireworks or buy beer at the supermarket. :rolleyes: