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Kevlar281 02-20-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1604776)
That's fine. I think that there comes a time when people; ALL people should be held accountable for their actions. I don't think it is overblown. I think that people are just too accepting of ignorance.

So what are your thoughts on the Rap Entertainment Industry?

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1604831)
Are you two serious?

Yikes.

not really....but think about DST....if this becomes another media circus, what's really going to happen? At worst same thing that happened to Imus...at least same thing that happened to Tilghman...it's a matter of who complains the loudest and who screams the most for Bill's head....and somewhere you wi;ll get the statement that you provided.

It's a farce if this gets bigger.

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1604836)
So what are your thoughts on the Rap Entertainment Industry?

Kevlar.....that's a whole 'nother thread...but suffice to say, I don't listen to too much of any modern rap (since 1990)

DSTCHAOS 02-20-2008 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1604837)
not really

*sigh of relief*


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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1604837)
....but think about DST....if this becomes another media circus, what's really going to happen? At worst same thing that happened to Imus...at least same thing that happened to Tilghman...it's a matter of who complains the loudest and who screams the most for Bill's head....and somewhere you wi;ll get the statement that you provided.

It's a farce if this gets bigger.

What happened to Imus was mean spirited, regardless of anything else, and that is a different context.

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1604844)
*sigh of relief*




What happened to Imus was mean spirited, regardless of anything else, and that is a different context.

different context true but if MSNBC's report makes this snowball, the end result will still somewhere be the same

pinkies up 02-20-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevlar281 (Post 1604836)
So what are your thoughts on the Rap Entertainment Industry?

First of all, all rap isn't entertaining. However, it's funny to see others doing the "heismen on the hoe" and "soulja boy". Entertaining music? Nope.

Kevlar281 02-20-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1604840)
Kevlar.....that's a whole 'nother thread...but suffice to say, I don't listen to too much of any modern rap (since 1990)

Your right I’m not trying to stir up the controversy in this thread so I’ll keep it on topic.

My opinions on the lynching comment…Should she have known better? Yes. Did she mean for it to be taken with a racial connotation? I don’t know.

But Tiger seemed to put it behind him pretty quickly and since he actually knows the woman I’m fine with accepting his interpretation of the incident.

DaemonSeid 02-20-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1604850)
First of all, all rap isn't entertaining. However, it's funny to see others doing the "heismen on the hoe" and "soulja boy". Entertaining music? Nope.

I thought it was superman that hoe...but who is counting...

young people and their vernacular....heh

pinkies up 02-20-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1604856)
I thought it was superman that hoe...but who is counting...

young people and their vernacular....heh

You can do a Heisman on that hoe and Souja Boy supermans's that hoe. Now, we have to identify who the hoe is...:cool:

Velocity_14 02-20-2008 11:22 PM

After reading the transcription...it doesn't seem like O'Reilly is purposefully making a racist remark. Using the term "lynching," I think, took away from the intention and the context of his comment. So, I said that to say though I do understand where O'Reilly was coming from, at the end of the day "lynching" would still NOT be a word of choice to help express this point.

The fact that he states he would have used that word if he where talking about someone else doesn't make his use of the word very tactful in my eyes either....but then again....I don't expect much tact from him anyway;).

KSig RC 02-20-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pinkies up (Post 1604821)
Please tell me how this isn't a racist comment. He wouldn't say he would go and lynch Hillary Clinton.

Well, you're attempting to rally a group of people to lynch O'Reilly, when there's really no need for the torches at all.

See? That's not racist - in fact, there were "lynch mobs" before there were ever slaves in the United States. The ignorant connotation behind lynchings is somewhat specific, as we can show:

"He's getting lynched by the media!" <-- No connotation at all, but still probably something to avoid in direct reference to a black person because of historical racist crimes. O'Reilly forgot the second part, but the first part was exactly the opposite of how you described it. He likely would use that term in other situations, and likely has. I use it all the time - but then again, I'm from the north.

"(Something along the lines of) hang her from a tree!" <-- direct, explicit connection to abhorrent acts in the deep south. Inappropriate in almost every context. NOT how O'Reilly used the term.

Your point only stands on its own merits if he had actually said something directly offensive, as in the second case. He didn't - you're really projecting here. The term "lynch" is a completely valid descriptor, after all.

shinerbock 02-20-2008 11:38 PM

Didn't Tiger come out and say something about leaving him out of this kinda crap? I heard that second-hand, and I've never really liked Woods, but if that was his attitude then I gained a little respect for him.

PhiGam 02-21-2008 01:24 AM

This thread is absolutely worthless and retarded. If you think that what he said was wrong in any way then you need to go soak your head.

Drolefille 02-21-2008 02:01 AM

I don't think he meant it to come off that way, it was one of those poor choice of words in hindsight but you do see the word "lynch" used outside of racial contexts particularly something like "being lynched by the media." O'Reilly is perfectly capable of being offensive when he wants to, and (intentionally or not) obtuse other times. I'd guess he didn't mean it here and it was nothing more than a word, and one he would indeed have used toward Hillary Clinton.

No one was asking for their "motherf*cking iced tea" though, right?

DaemonSeid 02-21-2008 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1604966)
This thread is absolutely worthless and retarded. If you think that what he said was wrong in any way then you need to go soak your head.

And soaking one's head accomplishes.....?


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