I am with you breathesgelatin. I hate this us vs them atitude so many of the greeks and GDI's have at my university. As far as fraternities go, so many of the men on my campus will not join one because they don't like the whole immature fratboy thing so many of the fraternity members think is so cool. One told me he did not go through rush because "I am not going to let some idiot hit me with a paddle".