Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1828141)

Hmm. In regards to founders, it seems that the emphasis in GSS is on the organizations/schools represented at the Beekman tower, not the women who were at the meeting. But a picture like that would tend to emphasize the women rather than their organizations (not easy to tell from the picture which women are from where) so it might not be an image that would be particularly publicized... Might cut down on the degree of founder worship that you find in some GLOs...


OK, GSS's Founder's day is what GSS says it is...

No territories, but what happens if the membership of a Alumni Chapter keeps shifting in one direction (say Cherry Blossom kept taking members and meeting farther and farther south...) Limited to within the GSS District? (not sure if DC was in the District V or District IV prior to the District change at the 2009 convention.

Being a faculty advisor doesn't make one a member of the sorority. Hmm. At least for the social fraternities and sororities at my alma mater, the school risk management practices said that they had to have advisors at the rituals.

Originally Posted by ECUGSS (Post 1828143)

Territories... Alums have the right to join whichever alum group... we have no district/state/city/county/zip code/area code, etc boundaries. It is not an issue for our organization. As I said, we have 2 in one city alone. It may be an issue in other organizations, but we do not have any issues with that. DC was and is still part of District 4.

As far as advisors---we both know that we are not a social sorority and thus this is not even a point that should be discussed further. We have certain types of memberships and certain things that must happen to get one of those... the virtue of you being an advisor does not make you a member of our organization.

The photo is already out there for our members... I don't believe I've ever encountered one member that has "founder worship" over the photo. It is a photo, taken that weekend. I think members are more excited about the fact that the photo was found and shared than whether or not that is an actual representation of our founding members, etc.

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1828124)

Whether there are Links depends on what type you are talking about, of course.

Legal, none. (But then as far as I can tell the only ones for that are ZPBS)
Historical, considerable, but varied by both time and place.
Ideals, certainly.
Cultural, depends on the school, with both the type of school and the gender status of the APO chapter affecting the relationship.

I think all of these are recognized at the National Level between the two organizations.

Originally Posted by naraht

I would love to see what has been cleared up in terms of the Exact role of APO in the founding of GSS. As best as I can tell from the APO side, the Exact role of APO in the founding of GSS consisted of giving addresses and phone numbers to put women's service groups in contact with each other.

Originally Posted by gamma_girl52 (Post 1828347)

Well, certainly not legally, and maybe not as much historically, but ideally
and culturally I think there are quite a few. Some of our chapters were chartered with direct help from the local APO chapter (either morally or financially). We still have GSS and APO chapters that have a close relationship and work together all the time (although that's probably more evident with those APO chapters that are all male and both chapters have been at their school for awhile)


That's exactly what was cleared up. You probably already know about the APO meeting in Des Moines in 1950 and how they found about these different service groups. Maybe "cleared up" wasn't the right word on our end. It was more or less discovered after we started researching more into our founding.

Bottom line I feel our members appreciate finding out even more about Gamma Sig and even more importantly, we are all FINALLY on the same page about it.

Originally Posted by naraht (Post 1828141)

Being a faculty advisor doesn't make one a member of the sorority. Hmm. At least for the social fraternities and sororities at my alma mater, the school risk management practices said that they had to have advisors at the rituals.

Originally Posted by ree-Xi (Post 1829101)

A faculty advisor is not the same as a Chapter advisor. Chapter advisors work on behalf of the fraternity or sorority, while a faculty advisor usually liaisons between the campus and the organizations.

In both organizations of which I am a member (Gamma Sigma Sigma and Alpha Xi Delta), only initiated members witness rituals.

Originally Posted by ECUGSS (Post 1829188)

In GSS, we consider chapter advisors and faculty advisors the same thing. We also have chapter consultants that ARE. Members of the sorority