| nittanyalum |
12-20-2007 02:21 AM |
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Originally Posted by PhiGam
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You've begun twisting the facts to win an argument, an argument that doesn't need to exist. It seems as though you are disagreeing with me just for the sake of disagreeing.
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That is pure comedy, coming from you.
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Also, the talent thing is obviously a matter of opinion.
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You are obviously young and still in school. Ike Turner pre-dates you. Just because the movie came out in your lifetime doesn't mean you know his life story nor can you judge his talent or impact in the time in which he first made his mark.
Here's the headline and opening paragraph from Newsweek's article on his passing:
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RIP, Ike Turner
His troubled personal life overshadowed what was really a brilliant career in music.
The first word that pops into your head when you hear the name Ike Turner is, undoubtedly, Tina. Fair enough. The second, perhaps, is wife-beater. OK, also fair. But chances are the third word is probably not genius. Simply put, the man's despicable and self-destructive offstage behavior toppled his reputation as a towering figure of 20th-century music. As a multi-instrumentalist, bandleader, promoter, songwriter and talent scout he had few peers during his five-decade career. But his appetites for drugs and women, and certainly his reputation as a physically abusive husband, reduced him to a caricature by the mid-'90s: rock-and-roll villain. His death came on the heels of his first Grammy since 1972—and in the first blush of something that was beginning to look a little like redemption. --Rest of article here.
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Quotes from a BBC article, read the whole thing here:
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Turner, a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, is credited by many music historians with making the first rock 'n' roll record, Rocket 88, in 1951.
Broadcaster Paul Gambaccini told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "In musical terms [he was] very important.
"Rocket 88 is one of the two records that can claim to be the first rock 'n' roll record, being the other being The Fat Man by Fats Domino from 1949," he said.
He said the track was an "indisputable claim to fame" for Turner. "To critics he will be known as a great founder, unfortunately to the general public he will always be known as a brutal man," he added.
Turner was also known as a prolific session guitarist and piano player.
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You can even find articles with praise for his talent that ran in The Washington Times and Fox News, which I'm guessing are right up your alley... |
