It's the same school in both threads.

What about the existing groups on campus does not meet your needs? That should be your starting point. what values etc do you not see in the groups there. You need a copy of the panhel constitution b/c in all likelihood, you cannot start a local unless it is underground and not recognized by University. Are you looking for a club or a sisterhood. Ramapo is small - the NPC groups are small too so that is why they will not vote to bring on another.

Amen sista!

I don't know what that campus is like, but it seems from my take on this situation that it might be in the CPC's best interest to reconsider expansion. There is obviously at least one group (and rumors about a second) that for whatever reason have decided that the current groups aren't for them. Fair or unfair, they probably aren't going to change their mind, especially just because a few people on an internet messageboard said they should. So, either these girls get permission and petition NPC groups and play by NPC rules, or they start a local/non-NPC. Due to NPC rules, the NPCs are limited in what they can do to compete with a local sorority if that campus finds that locals are more favorable (due to being less restrictive/less structured/whatever). If the new group(s) are NPC, CPC will have a little more control of the situation. And, mathematically speaking, 5 or 6 groups have more presence on campus than 4, so it's possible that more exposure could cause EVERYONE'S numbers to go up. You're always going to have a "weakest link", but a stronger system is beneficial for EVERYONE.

How do we know this?

luv in tpa started the other thread. luv in tpa stated in TPA's rolecall thread that she goes to Ramapo. 2+2=4.

Calm down it was a question. While I am familiar with the other thread that luvntpa started, I had not seen her roll call thread. Be easy, sheesh.

Who's not calm? You asked, I answered.

OK, I'm gonna stop being PC and say it.

I went to a school with a smaller Greek system with a very diverse variety of types of people in the sororities - I don't mean racially, I mean more personality wise. If you went the whole way through rush and weren't offered a bid from ANYONE, either you really misjudged your options (i.e. you thought the top group was really going to give you a bid when they were just stringing you along and so you were rude to the rest of the groups because you thought you had it "in the bag") or you were pretty socially backward.

The OP is presenting her group as a group of awesome ladies that got dicked over by the big bad Sorority Mean Girls, when in actuality some of them probably were dismissive to sororities that offered them membership. She herself says that she turned down a bid.

Bringing a new NPC does not change the girls on your campus - if the XYZs at the school down the road are all fashion plate student leaders with Porsches, it doesn't mean that just because you bring XYZ to your campus that it's going to change the fact that 75% of your school is on financial aid and wear sweatpants 6 days out of 7.

Yeah, and I suspect it's not quite as the OP presented it as far as the girls being skipped or what have you. But if the NPC system is struggling there AND there are other non-NPC options well... Actually I think a lot depends on the health of the current non-NPCs. Are they struggling as well? Are they very niche groups? Do they haze? Just as bringing on a new NPC won't change Greek culture, bringing on a new non-NPC won't necessarily either. If those non-NPCs are flourishing, or if they're faltering because of their behaviors, then bringing a new group on isn't such a bad idea.

I highly suspect every interest group portrays themselves as girls who just didn't find a home during recruitment... even if it's made up of girls who didn't rush, etc.

Can't have it both ways.
 

We(GLOs) are all voluntary associations. This is the argument we've made every time a college tries to tell us who to accept as members (single-sex), every time the government tries to treat us like public organizations. While we are free to set up voluntary groups(IFC, Pan-Hel, Panhel, etc) and even extend those voluntary groups on a national or international basis, we cannot be true to our contentions if we do not agree that anyone has that same right. While the NPC sororities have the right to decide amongst themselves their own rules, they cannot expect outsiders to operate by those rules.

I sent you a PM :)

In case anyone is interested in how this situation is progressing, a non-NPC national group has been selected and contacted about expansion. An interest group has been formed and will be meeting this semester in order to attempt an expansion process.

Also, thank you so much to the girls who expressed interest in expanding their local organizations to our campus. We were unfortunately informed that local organizations are not allowed at our school, and were thus unable to consider your groups in our process (although we would have loved to!). But thank you again SO much for you messages and support. <3

Congratulations!

Congrats!! Keep us updated on everything!