But if he did that then he couldn't spread his hate all over the place! :eek:

I used to feel this way but having been out of undergrad for years and having gone to different types of events, it's not that serious anymore and I have a different take. But I completely understand where you're coming from and felt that way a few years ago.

I think they looked cute. I like KKGs and I don't expect much of them in terms of party strolls and stepping. So they did very well, considering. And they actually cared enough to put forth a lot of effort.

Was this Derby Days? I absolutely love that event.

I don't think any non-BGLOs will be adopting stepping and strolling and calling it their own. Afterall, many of these groups have had handsigns before some NPHCers were founded but they don't advertise them the way we do.

What IS pathetic is some of the KKGs attempt to "hip hopize" themselves. The use of "slang," an attempt at some type of "accent" and certain mannerisms are lame. That's the only thing that made me go ":rolleyes:" They were probably told to do that by their teachers. I won't go into that for a number of reasons.

I was going to post something to that effect. This is what stopped me from even watching the rest.

I'm trying to imagine the fireworks around here if an NPC member referred to KAPsi as "Kappa Alpha whatever." If you expect others to treat you with respect -- and I'm sure you do -- then show respect to others.
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I would absolutely condone it.

When did you become anti-stepshows? Didn't you use to help high schools with them? Not clowning, just thought I remembered that.

And that is what bothered me about the whole thing. But yeah, that's a whole 'nother discussion.

Wouldn't bother me if someone said Delta Sigma whatever. I would just assume they are not familiar enough with the org to remember the whole name.

I should have qualified that with "NPHC" step shows. I know you're not clowning. :)

Here is my rationale.... I enjoy neophyte shows, probate shows, new member presentations, debuts, emergences, etc. I like those because the spotlight is on that one particular organization and their sisterhood or brotherhood.

I enjoy NPHC non-exclusive step shows and exhibitions because I get to see LGLOs, MCGLOs, and Christian GLOs perform. And it never fails, I always see something different at such shows. Unfortunately, I only get to attend one of those a year.

ETA: To further explain why I like these shows, I don't feel cheated if not all of the NPHC is represented -- some opt out because they have other things to do.

I do not enjoy NPHC-only shows because (to me) they are boring ANNNND (and I know it's not the fault of the art of stepping itself) I see too many of MY bros placing too much value on stepping and not enough on service and being out in their campus communities. If you can do both, great, I'll encourage it. But I am friends with a few collegiate neos now whose chapters really have their priorities in the wrong place. :( I just feel like the time they spend (waste) arguing and fussing in practices could be spent elsewhere.

And finally, yes, I founded a non-Greek step team at my alma mater, which might be what you're thinking of. Big fun! Coming up on ten years this January. :) Wouldn't call what they do a waste of time because we founded it JUST for stepping, and the average contribution per member is like four semesters.

It wouldn't bother me if an NPC member referred to us as Kappa Alpha whatever. Actually we've been called much worse. How about Kappa Alpha "Nig" if you want to get detailed about it. One historical reason for changing our original name to Kappa Alpha Psi. This was said probably by one of your organizations on the campus of IU. Typical. You all have a history of judging people by skin color, and at some colleges you still do. I can't see how anyone can tell a man or woman you don't fit in because you're not white. What kind of crap is that? I've seen it on GC several times. There's three members on here who have totally disrespected our organizations. I've even read some posts on here from the same three jokers about blacks not fitting in to IFC/NPC glos, that's why they don't get voted on. As far as I'm concerned that's BS.

I don't hate anyone, I have three close friends, two are NPCers and one IFCer and I don't have anything against them as individuals. Infact I enjoy their company. I've been in the same discussions with them about this very topic. We've learned to agree to disagree.

All I said was that this sorority looked pathetic, and my opinion hasn't changed.

Okay, I understand where you are coming from. And it is quite disappointing to go to a NPHC step show and have only 3 teams show up with the same old steps.

As long as some other GC members (IFC) can make comments about us, then I can make comments about your glos.

Greek unity? White and black greeks are still largely segregated, which was started by IFC and NPC glos. It's 2007 and you still practice this. Why?

No they didn't, especially having the black dude as part of the act to make them look more hip. That didn't help, that just made them look even more pathetic to me.

Then, whoever the joker was who put this on youtube had the nerve to say "This is how stepping is done." Probably a member who was trying to say something, but didn't.