Yes. Along with Peggy PNM, who has no relation at all. Let each PNM, and chapter, stand on their own merits, here and now, and be free to make their own choices and be supported by all.

If you want to recognize the coincidence of family relationships, do it after you pledge Patty or Pammy, when you initiate her.

So are you saying we should get rid of giving any special consideration to legacies?

I think the organizations themselves consider it more than a "coincidence" and regard it as a unique way to bring something extra to the sisterhood.

But if the time has come that it's unsustainable even at the relaxed level of having to invite a girl to second round and if you like her enough to put her on the bid list, she has to be on the first one, maybe it's time.

For some families and for some organizations, it is more than just a "coincidence."

There was a great article called "The Legacy of Legacies" in the summer issue of the Theta magazine. It explained that "legacies are a subject near and dear to Thetas' hearts."

And personally, I hope that for all groups they can continue to be an important part of things. But it seems like it gets harder and harder as things get bigger and bigger in terms of the number of people going through, etc.

I had thought the same thing. However, there is the argument that this might allow the big chapters to become bigger etc.

Now if there was a way you could guarantee each chapter would receive the same number of "free legacies" it might work.

And for what it is worth, *in general*, IFCs tend to think of legacies as "free" since there aren't quotas or total.

I agree. I went to a school where this wasn't really a problem, so I've learned a lot from reading this thread. I think there are a lot of important questions to look into.

Hmmm what an interesting question. Would their younger sister be a legacy? I wonder if a HQ has ever tackled THAT issue, or how that would be specified... adopted sisters?? :p

Adopted sisters are legally sisters. So yes. Carnation has several adopted children who have joined sororities. Their younger siblings are all legacies to their adopted sisters' sororities, as well as being a legacy to Carnation's sorority. If you legally share the same parents, you're sisters.

ETA: Step-siblings, however, are not automatically counted as legacies in many sororities. I think this is changing with many groups, as blended families are becoming more of the norm.

ASA legacy policy includes adopted and step families.

maybe coincidence is a strong word...I'll try to think of a better one.

The legacy issue is so near and dear to all of us...but I'd like to think that all NPC legacies bring something special to whatever NPC group they join in that they are carrying on the NPC tradition and bringing all of us closer together as Panhellenic sisters.

My mom was initiated into a different NPC at the school she attended...her experience was hers, but I know her love and lifelong dedication to her GLO inspired me to love and be dedicated to my sorority! My sister attended yet another school and chose another GLO. Add in the aunts and cousins and there are a lot of NPCs represented in the gene pool!

Darn it, I specifically ordered up GPhiB legacies both times I was pregnant and still got these stinkin' boys. I wonder what the stats are on boys marrying girls who are members of their mom's NPC????;) I can dream, can't I?

Boys are easily influenced.;)

Hey, bejazd, depending on the ages of those boys, I might have a deal for you, lol.
Hey, I know - Greek Chat can start an arranged marriages thread!:D

I'm afraid I'm quite guilty on this one. Three pregnancies, three boys, zero legacies! My oldest will be a HS junior this year, and is he even considering a college with an AOII chapter? Of course not, but I'm not even close to giving up. If I don't get a legacy by birth, there's always marriage, right? :p