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Luckie1922 05-26-2007 03:59 PM
I look like a Soror

I walk like a Soror

I talk like a Soror

I can achieve anything like a Soror

I work hard like Soror

Therefore I must be a Soror

rhoyaltempest 05-26-2007 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by IncontRHOllable (Post 1450686)
Hey sorors, I just had to tell yall this. I ran into an old friend of mine that I have not seen in like 8 years. Anyway, I was wearing my SGRHO jacket, after catching up on where we've been and what we've been up to, the conversatoin turned to my jacket and went like this:

him: You SGRHO
me: (beaming with all kinds of pride) Yes
him: Why you choose SGRHO? You look more like a Delta
me: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
me: and what the heck does that supposed to mean? (mind you that I'm sounding/looking real po'd and my blood pressure starting to rise..)
him: Naw naw naw that's cool don't get me wrong but I thought SGRHO was for fat girls cuz most SGRHO's in XYZ state where I live are big
me: (still boiling) Yeah I know they are BRIGHT INTELLIGENT and OH SO GAWGEOUS
me: Watch yo tongue when it come to my SoRHOrs, watch yo tongue
him: Oh naw naw I didn't mean no disrespect..

Man if I was white my skin would've shown all kinds of red like the smilie.
and what the heck does a Delta look like? Better yet, what does a Zeta or AKA look like? My point is that all of us are beautiful. The School Daze stereotypes was just movie hype. From my experience, stereotypes for D9 sororities don't exist or am I missing something? If this is already a thread, kindly direct me to it because my search did not bring up any such results. Thanks.
I'll never understand this. What is the point of talking negatively about someone's organization AFTER they've already joined? Obviously they found something in their organization that they liked and you telling them that their organization is "bad" will not change anything. Here is where I have to question the friendship or the motive of the person who's doing the trash talking whether it's a family member or not. If this person is just an acquaintance then chances are the person just likes to be negative (especially regarding things they don't understand or know too much about) and if this person is supposed to be a "friend," this is where I would have to question the person's friendship. How can this person be a true friend? Even if they don't particularly care for your organization, they should just suck it up and be happy for you because you're happy...isn't that what really matters anyway...that you're happy? What do they think you'll do?...denounce your organization because THEY say it's not right for you? I'll never understand this one.

IncontRHOllable 05-27-2007 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1455503)
I'll never understand this. What is the point of talking negatively about someone's organization AFTER they've already joined? Obviously they found something in their organization that they liked and you telling them that their organization is "bad" will not change anything. Here is where I have to question the friendship or the motive of the person who's doing the trash talking whether it's a family member or not. If this person is just an acquaintance then chances are the person just likes to be negative (especially regarding things they don't understand or know too much about) and if this person is supposed to be a "friend," this is where I would have to question the person's friendship. How can this person be a true friend? Even if they don't particularly care for your organization, they should just suck it up and be happy for you because you're happy...isn't that what really matters anyway...that you're happy? What do they think you'll do?...denounce your organization because THEY say it's not right for you? I'll never understand this one.
The sad thing is, I really believe that he did not mean any harm with his question because he really believed that SGRHO is just for fuller figured girls, according to him that's all he has seen in his state. I'll let him slide because of his ignorance but my problem is more with members of the D9 who feed these stereotypes by trash talking another org when they know good got dawg well (:)) that them stereotypes are nothing more than an urban legend.

proud2bSigma 05-29-2007 11:46 PM
Its hard being a full figured woman especially when you are a member of a d9. Its also very difficult to hear my sorors get angry when someone makes a comment about SGRHO being for big women. I know most people think that being fat means you are unattractive so that is why everyone is up in arms about the so called sterotypes. What I would like to hear is instead of my smaller sorors taking these comments as a insult, say So what I have some full-figured sorors but we are all beautiful.

Lets not let these comments divide us into "the attractive SGRHOS" and "the unattractive SGRHOS" We all LOOK GOOD trust me :)

rhoyaltempest 05-30-2007 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by proud2bSigma (Post 1457347)
Its hard being a full figured woman especially when you are a member of a d9. Its also very difficult to hear my sorors get angry when someone makes a comment about SGRHO being for big women. I know most people think that being fat means you are unattractive so that is why everyone is up in arms about the so called sterotypes. What I would like to hear is instead of my smaller sorors taking these comments as a insult, say So what I have some full-figured sorors but we are all beautiful.

Lets not let these comments divide us into "the attractive SGRHOS" and "the unattractive SGRHOS" We all LOOK GOOD trust me :)
Well said soror. And let's not forget that there are full figured women in ALL the D9 sororities and in the African American community in general. However these ladies are dealing with their weight...whether they are proud to be big and beautiful or whether they are trying to reduce their size, remember that the PERSON is inside and that person should be respected and never made fun of by anyone. Defend your sorors...don't let ANYONE say bad things about them! I don't care if the whole damn chapter has full figured women!!! Don't let the physical superficiality of many men (and women) be an imposition to the whole sorority...and this goes for all D9 organizations.

IncontRHOllable 05-30-2007 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by proud2bSigma (Post 1457347)
Its hard being a full figured woman especially when you are a member of a d9. Its also very difficult to hear my sorors get angry when someone makes a comment about SGRHO being for big women. I know most people think that being fat means you are unattractive so that is why everyone is up in arms about the so called sterotypes. What I would like to hear is instead of my smaller sorors taking these comments as a insult, say So what I have some full-figured sorors but we are all beautiful.

Lets not let these comments divide us into "the attractive SGRHOS" and "the unattractive SGRHOS" We all LOOK GOOD trust me :)
Soror I understand what you are saying, but my anger is focused more on the comments that are saying that some of us look like an AKA or a Delta rather than a SGRHO, in other words they are saying that AKA and Delta look better than SGRHOs and that is what I take to be an offense. My point was that we are all shapes and sizes and we are all beautiful no matter the org. SGRHOs or Deltas/AKA/Zeta for that matter are all not to be boxed in to some stereotype of what others feel we should look like. By no means am I saying that our full figured sorors are not as attractive as smaller sorors. I hope I did not come off that way and if I did then please excuse me Soror. ;)

Boom_Quack13 05-30-2007 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1457551)
Well said soror. And let's not forget that there are full figured women in ALL the D9 sororities and in the African American community in general. However these ladies are dealing with their weight...whether they are proud to be big and beautiful or whether they are trying to reduce their size, remember that the PERSON is inside and that person should be respected and never made fun of by anyone. Defend your sorors...don't let ANYONE say bad things about them! I don't care if the whole damn chapter has full figured women!!! Don't let the physical superficiality of many men (and women) be an imposition to the whole sorority...and this goes for all D9 organizations.
GREAT POST!!!!!! :)

OneTimeSBX 05-30-2007 03:36 PM
does anyone here feel it may be just a "female in a sorority" issue as well, and not just D9?

we just had two recent grads join our staff. they are both in sororities, very attractive girls, well spoken and educated...but the first thing i heard about both of them was "hey, that new girl so-and-so is a sorority girl". i think with the release of the girls gone wild videos, non-black females in GLO's are stereotyped as well... all the guys started making out of the way comments, and i felt it was wrong to assume they were a certain way just because of being in a sorority...

rhoyaltempest 05-30-2007 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1457716)
does anyone here feel it may be just a "female in a sorority" issue as well, and not just D9?

we just had two recent grads join our staff. they are both in sororities, very attractive girls, well spoken and educated...but the first thing i heard about both of them was "hey, that new girl so-and-so is a sorority girl". i think with the release of the girls gone wild videos, non-black females in GLO's are stereotyped as well... all the guys started making out of the way comments, and i felt it was wrong to assume they were a certain way just because of being in a sorority...
This issue is by no means a D9 only issue. I was just addressing a specific stereotype...just one of many that women in D9 orgs have to deal with. And yes, not only do we have to deal with NPHC stereotypes but we also have to deal with "greek" stereotypes and prejudices in general. People who know nothing about the NPHC and other BGLO's automatically think of "girls gone wild," popular fraternity movies, and the new one on the block..."dorm porn" which is supposedly filmed at frat houses during frat parties. So unfortunately the stereotypes affiliated with the predominently caucasian sororities and fraternities add to the prejudice against us and every sorority and fraternity member.

OneTimeSBX 05-30-2007 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest (Post 1457739)
This issue is by no means a D9 only issue. I was just addressing a specific stereotype...just one of many that women in D9 orgs have to deal with. And yes, not only do we have to deal with NPHC stereotypes but we also have to deal with "greek" stereotypes and prejudices in general. People who know nothing about the NPHC and other BGLO's automatically think of "girls gone wild," popular fraternity movies, and the new one on the block..."dorm porn" which is supposedly filmed at frat houses during frat parties. So unfortunately the stereotypes affiliated with the predominently caucasian sororities and fraternities add to the prejudice against us and every sorority and fraternity member.
whats interesting, and maybe this is only because i associate with more black people, is the fact that the caucasian stereotypes usually involve drinking/partying/taking tops off, etc. the D9 stereotypes i hear about are mostly looks/personality/intelligence. it is a shame that the D9 stereotypes are not things that can be "outgrown", but personality and physical traits...

1908Revelations 05-30-2007 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1457749)
whats interesting, and maybe this is only because i associate with more black people, is the fact that the caucasian stereotypes usually involve drinking/partying/taking tops off, etc. the D9 stereotypes i hear about are mostly looks/personality/intelligence. it is a shame that the D9 stereotypes are not things that can be "outgrown", but personality and physical traits...
So I wonder are any of us (on GC) who are associated with what seems the more positive of the traits that people think we possess. The reason I ask is b/c before I ever expressed any interest in sororities people would assume that I wanted to be an AKA or a Delta. I would never confirm or deny, but I was just wondering if there are positives that have been attached to you as well. Although people should move beyond what they think the typical 'ABC' or 'XYZ' looks or acts.

rhoyaltempest 05-30-2007 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX (Post 1457749)
whats interesting, and maybe this is only because i associate with more black people, is the fact that the caucasian stereotypes usually involve drinking/partying/taking tops off, etc. the D9 stereotypes i hear about are mostly looks/personality/intelligence. it is a shame that the D9 stereotypes are not things that can be "outgrown", but personality and physical traits...
I'm not sure I understand you on this one. Can you please explain?

rhoyaltempest 05-30-2007 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1457759)
So I wonder are any of us (on GC) who are associated with what seems the more positive of the traits that people think we possess. The reason I ask is b/c before I ever expressed any interest in sororities people would assume that I wanted to be an AKA or a Delta. I would never confirm or deny, but I was just wondering if there are positives that have been attached to you as well. Although people should move beyond what they think the typical 'ABC' or 'XYZ' looks or acts.
yes, I have heard people (greeks and non-greeks) say that we are intelligent, sophisticated, professional, very independent, ladylike, cool with everybody (greek and non-greek), never put other NPHC sororities down, and do a great deal of community service despite our smaller size.

Little32 05-30-2007 07:07 PM
I think that people tend to associate all of the D9 sororities with a certain level of intelligence. You don't ever hear that XYZ is the sorority for dummies :), or at least I don't. I think that because you have to go to college to be a part of any of these organizations, the women and men are credited with a degree of intelligence. (And that is definitely a quality that I possess.)

What are the positive stereotypes associated with each org? I hear these less often than the negative ones.

Honestly, most of the folks that I know have told me that they would never have suspected that I would be interested in being Greek, but then again, they don't know what I know...

IncontRHOllable 05-31-2007 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 1908Revelations (Post 1457759)
So I wonder are any of us (on GC) who are associated with what seems the more positive of the traits that people think we possess. The reason I ask is b/c before I ever expressed any interest in sororities people would assume that I wanted to be an AKA or a Delta. I would never confirm or deny, but I was just wondering if there are positives that have been attached to you as well. Although people should move beyond what they think the typical 'ABC' or 'XYZ' looks or acts.
Soror Rhoyaltempest answered exactly what I would say. However, I must agree with Sistergreek who said that she hears the positive stereotypes much less than she hears the negative stereotypes. It seems to me that its the negative stereotypes that drive some prospects to steer clear of some orgs and pursue others. I am hoping (may be false hope) that we in greekdom can move beyond the negative stereotypes and stop perpetuating them by tearing down eachother by speaking negatively about one another. If you just look at Youtube you can see some of the D9 members post such hateful nasty things about each other and why is that? It must cease.


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