Just because the Bible says people should do something doesn't mean they do. See thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not bear false witness...

And there's a consequence when you kill, steal and bear false witness. Just like the marriage won't work if Christ isn't in that marriage.

That's a stupid, ignorant thing to say. There's a lot of atheists who are married with working marriages. Lower divorce rates than a lot of religious people too.

Are you the CG from Minnesota? I think you are. Lots of people here get divorced because the wife isn't the sexy Targetron she was at 23. Don't worry, though, they still go to church with their new mistress.

Sweetheart, ADGee has been through a lot and has a different life experience from you.

Do not say what you won't do when you have not been married. You never know until it is actually done... And believe me, the comment on the picture is VERY EASY to do. But the longterm repercussions are costly. However, when caught in a bad marriage and no fault of your own like several GC'ers, then you have to find strength to carry on.

If you do believe in God and are a Christian, the you have to KNOW Phillipians 11:17. God will give you what you can bare for several reasons.

You can enjoy the good times, but you must endure the bad times if you are to survive...

Whats a Targetron?

Wow. I read the Wiki article and I'm Googling more info on covenant marriages as I post. I've never heard about this kind of arrangement before tonight. It's very interesting, to say the least. Thanks for the info. :)

o.k. o.k. calm down.

I don't disagree with everything you've just posted. The divorce rate is higher among Christians. Why? I don't know, but we'll have to agree to disagree, because I still think a couple should work through the tribulations, and through Christ it can be done. I can't speak for the Christians who get a divorce, but I know a lot that stay married.

The Target HQ is in downtown Minneapolis and there are a lot of young and beautiful women working there - think the adult equivalent of your Barbie-doll chapters thread.

Oh lol. thanks. :)

Divorce rate is higher among evangelical Protestants. Catholics and Lutherans (who are still Christian!) have the lowest divorce rates of everyone. Don't throw all your Christians in one basket.

I really think this problem could be fixed if people would stop getting married just to have sex or because the girl is knocked up, but that would probably require some pastors to acknowledge that people still do it even after signing that True Love Waits card. :rolleyes:

I know. It's hard for me to speak on it when I haven't done it, but a lot of people who have been married for 30, 40 and 50 years don't have a recipe for a successful marriage. They sacrifce and work it out.

By the same token though, I think that we live in a more selfish society today than we did back then. People are far more concerned about "what's in it for them" than they were years ago. (About everything - not specifically marriage/divorce. I'm certainly not saying that people who get divorced are selfish!) You really could put a positive or a negative spin on that, but I don't think anyone would dispute the notion that in today's society people are more concerned about immediate gratification.

Back then, people were more likely to start and finish their career with one employer. (People were more loyal to their employers, and employers were more loyal to them.) Back then, people were more likely to save money and pay cash for a major purchase. (As opposed to getting in over their heads in credit, for the immediate gratification of the material good.) Back then, people were more likely to begin their careers and marriages in a community near their extended family. (Moving and living in new cities is exciting, of course...not trying to say that's a "bad" thing. It just creates complications in the marital relationship that weren't as big of an issue back then - time/expense involved in traveling to visit families, possible feelings of isolation, etc.)

I could go on, but I'm tired. :) To sum it up, society has changed in a myriad of ways since then, and a lot of those seemingly unrelated things may have had more influence on marriage/divorce things than we even realize.

lol at the girl being knocked up.:p

So I have seen both a Buddhist Vietnamese wedding and both Muslim and Hindu weddings have been described to me. So, if one is not a Christian, how do they allow Christ to assist a couple in their marriages?

Rarely do I see Muslims getting divorced. Rarely.

For that matter, rarely do I see Hindus getting divorced...

I'm sure it happens, but I don't know anyone who has gotten divorced.

In generally, American society gets divorced. It doesn't matter what God they believe. Hayle, they can worship the Devil, they still get divorced...

Marriages are NOT fairy tales. They are serious. I don't think this seriousness is relayed.