Missed me this time. It was the idea that one would join an organization to try to change it that was odd (not a strong enough word) to me.

uh oh....:(

Moreso influence it than change it. I guess she felt she'd get lost in the shuffle, which was an assumption on her part of course.

On a silly change note:
I actually knew a couple of NPHC frat and sorority members years ago who played with the idea of joining an NPHC org that was NOT in their heart. They wanted to join because they felt they could help the orgs blossom and succeed at the local level. Essentially, they wanted to turn the orgs into the org that is in their heart. LOL. Needless to say, this idea died down quickly and they diligently pursued and got accepted into the org that's in their heart--and no one held the brief lapse in judgment against them. Smart move on their part. The org you pursue because it's small and potentally changeable won't become the org that's in your HEART. EVER.

Oh well. I tried. :D

Agreed, 100%. I loved my chapter to begin with. I also love the idea of how I really make a difference in it.

Your GLO is a national one, right? You confused me when you gave the hypothetical of getting a bid from a different chapter of XYZ.

I made a mistake along these lines before joining my sorority. And, you're absolutely right.

I was interested in GBX for a few reasons.

A) It is the First Black Service Fraternity

B) The organization caters to students from 4yr, 2yr and tech, related, institutions of higher learning.

C) I have the opportunity of making history by aiding not just in the internal structure of the organization but also it's growth on a national scope.

Even though you were founded in 2002? Wow. I didn't know that.

I was pretty surprised myself. But, though, other older Black Greek Lettered Fraternities do service projects they are Social. Hence, where we come in.

So you mean you don't have Title IX exemption?

Well we have a constitutionally bound sister group for females interested in joining a service oriented society.

And of course there is always GSS or APO.

I think her point was that under federal law, no collegiate organization can restrict membership to males (or females) unless it is classified as a "social" fraternity (or sorority). A constitutionally bound but still seperate organization might not satisfy this federal requirement. (See the example of Kappa Kappa Psi and Tau Beta Sigma, for instance.)

Exactly. All NPHC organizations are service fraternities and sororities. They are "social" only in the sense that they are Title IX exempt and can restrict membership based on legal gender.

Funny......I don't recall saying that we restrict anyone from joining.