no need to get catty....oh and i don't appreciate the ageist comment...

and i'm not dissing state universities, a lot of them are very good... i'm just dissing the really really random ones (sarcasm).

i did the full ib too, and i go to a school that would make it onto that list of "prestigious" institutions, and yes, after doing the IB college classes weren't hard in the sense that I was well equipped to deal with the paper writing, but that didn't mean that the transition to college was easy. and once things started to feel too easy, then i took on more academic challenge. if the kids from your HS who are at the schools you say they are at are not being challenged, they're wasting the money they're paying to be at those institutions, because they cost a freakin lot of money. trust me. so again, don't take their word for it, and yeah, jr. year of HS WAS a lot of stress and hardwork, but so is college.

why would i lie about the colleges the people at my hs went too??

you sound a little bitter...was college too hard?

i have absolutely nothing to be bitter about. i just feel if you're forking over some $40,000 to attend an institution like columbia or stanford and you aren't being challenged, you're wasting your money. and most of the people i know who go to those institutions (stanford, columbia, penn, harvard, princeton, etc) are extremely challenged (in a positive way) by their academic experience at those schools, and they all went to excellent high schools that were rigorous as well.

and as i said, maybe the people from your HS are truly exceptional individuals, but each person is different. the thing is, college is a very different experience from HS, and while there were certain things about HS that were much harder than college (having homework for all my classes due each day, all the CAS activities of the IB, etc), college is a different type of challenge. as others have pointed out, you have to learn to balance school, socializing (life changes when your friends are around 24/7), work, extra-curriculars, and all the emotional aspects of going to college.

all i can say is keep working hard and work on your grades so that you can get into a good school and take the rest from there (like pledging).

edit: i'm a junior in college, and no, it's not too difficult, but it's a challenge, which is a good thing. i'd be worried if it weren't.

Clear what up? That my high school is different from yours and everyone has their own opinion regarding their personal education?


Sorry if I'm being rude here, but it is quite likely you didn't go to my HS and went through our IB program. What I may find challenging or easy is relative to me. I found our IB program to be challenging and felt that it prepared me very well for college.

These are all just opinions! So yeah, sorry if I made it seem otherwise.

I think what tinydancer meant is that neither the AP or IB program is inherently better or more difficult than the other, just different. The rigor of each program probably differs from school to school, but it's not like AP is easier across the board (or vice versa).

What I felt the need to clear up was the fact that you touted IB as more difficult than AP. That's simply not true. It doesn't matter that I didn't go to your high school, IB is taught by a uniform standard all over the world -that's one of the things that makes it so wonderful. However that also means that I know exactly how you were taught and can say with full confidence that your experience was no harder than that of a full AP student, it was simply structured differently. I have no doubt that your high school was challenging for you and that's great, I simply didn't want you (or other people) to go around thinking this:

AP/IB
It does depend on thr rigor of the instructor, but the student is reflected in the score that they receive in AP: 5-amazing, 4-very good, 3-passing.....
I don't know much about IB, but from what my friends have said is that it is not the material - it is the other requirements for an IB degree. You have volunteer hour requirements and long papers, etc.

I love being challenged here at my university, but I would make sure you understand what you are getting into with whatever college you go to. My classes average everyone's grade to a C, sometimes a C+ if the prof. thinks the class was an exception to the rule. It does make it feel like that much more of an accomplishment when you get a B+ or and A! ( I will say that I had one prof that said he only gave one A, two B's, 25 C's, 6-7 D's, and the rest F's for a class of 40 people. It was a brutal course too, but everyone has that at least once.)

I was lucky in that about half of the orgs were accepting of me being an engineer and understood that my GPA couldn't really be much higher. I think every chapter wants a good GPA, but good girls are much more important. If you know that your GPA is going to be under a 3.4, be sure that you can explain things. I did a lot on campus and worked through some boards, helping me a lot I think. I suggest finding an org outside of Greek life that makes you want to do well academically when you get to school to help your GPA. Seriously, if it wasn't for the Society of Women Engineers I might have dropped out and changed majors to something less frustrating.....

(It is because of the fewer girls, no one speaks english, amount of work, sexest profs I have encountered, and structure of classes. The sad part about the sexest stuff is that you can't prove anything without a tape and they can't do anything because of tenure.)

FYI: Don't be afraid to change majors, but follow what you want to do!

Listen Juniyah, your thread is rapidly turning into a train wreck. If you honestly want more advice about sorority recruitment via GreekChat, I think you'd be best served to quit fueling the college vs. HS debate. People are starting to get annoyed. It's a really pointless debate and you're only pissing people off who are actually in college or are college graduates.

Also, if you really want to make your point about your HS being more academically rigorous than Columbia/Yale/Stanford etc., you're going to probably want to start using correct punctuation/capitalization as well.

Just something to consider.

well, junie, i can tell you this---

when you are going thru recruitment, noone is going to be looking at what high school you went to,(except to see if anyone in the chapter also attended your school) but they WILL be looking at your gpa.

in other words, you will not have any slack cut for you because you attended "hard high school." it's all about recs.(well, at least in the south),gpa, activities, volunteering and how you present yourself during recruitment.

And they will probably notice if you have a contentious and superior attitude about your experience as compared to everyone else's.

Take people's advice or don't, but it doesn't seem to do you any good to try to argue with people.

Most people don't find college easier than high school. Your school may be exceptional, but it doesn't change what's true for most. And GLOs are going to probably use evaluations of GPA that reflect what's true for most.

Make sure you have recs lined up for all the groups on your future campus that mention how difficult your high school is.

I'm not fueling any debate, everyone is taking this way to far and being really bitchy about everything. This thread was perfectly fine until everyone started being really rude and actually made it into a debate (when it wasn't supposed to be).

I rest my case.

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Her HS courseload must really be difficult.