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ladygreek 02-23-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1402635)
"we have a day off, its MLK day, MLK was black, lets do "black" things and get drunk all day" kind of thought train.

And that right there is pure ignorance.

Why not "it's MLK day, MLK was for racial equality, let's attend a rally in his honor or do some community service."

DSTCHAOS 02-23-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1402731)
And that right there is pure ignorance.

Why not "it's MLK day, MLK was for racial equality, let's attend a rally in his honor or do some community service."

Or at the LEAST "it's MLK day, I don't have to work or go to school. Let me use this as a study day, a day to watch paint dry, or to do something else that's not stupid or offensive."

DSTCHAOS 02-23-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB06 (Post 1402701)
one question. in your estimation, what, if anything, would have been over the top by these students?

Performing real lynchings.

shinerbock 02-23-2007 03:41 PM

I've got to stop responding to people on here. I'm going to have an aneurysm if I keep reading such idiotic responses.

I never said the party wasn't over the top. I'd love for you to show me where I did, but you can't find it, because I didn't say it. I guess its some sort of GC tradition to misrepresent what someone says. What I DID say was that I highly doubt these kids were having the party out of hatred or spite. I said it could be numerous other things, but an act of hate seems highly unlikely.

As for ignorance, I don't really agree. I imagine that these kids realized that the majority of black people don't drink 40's and eat fried chicken all the time. Is it a stereotype? Sure. That doesn't make it ignorant. Stupid may be a better adjective.

Why the hell do you expect white people to go to community service on MLK? I mean, I think its a good thing, but I don't see why I'd do it on MLK as opposed to any other day I don't have school. The idea that a non-ignorant celebration of a black holiday would be to do community service is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. What was your basis for saying the party was ignorant, because black people don't act like that? I think you'd have a pretty difficult time proving more black people do community service on MLK than act in the manner portrayed by the party.

I don't think the party was hateful or ignorant, I think it was probably stupid and classless.

From Webster---Ignorant
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : UNAWARE, UNINFORMED

I don't think these kids were unaware, uninformed or uneducated. (b) comes closest, but I doubt this is really indicative of a lack of intelligence. It likely indicates a lack of good judgment.

Little32 02-23-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1402820)
I've got to stop responding to people on here. I'm going to have an aneurysm if I keep reading such idiotic responses.

Promises, promises. LOL!

shinerbock 02-23-2007 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1402879)
Promises, promises. LOL!

Trust me, banter with you has that effect.

Little32 02-23-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1402884)
Trust me, banter with you has that effect.

How does it make you feel to insult people that you don't know?

ladygreek 02-23-2007 06:19 PM

Semantics is what people resort to when their argument is flawed.

shinerbock 02-23-2007 06:47 PM

Lady, hence you not responding to my argument.

Little, I didn't insult you. Considering you joked about me having an aneurysm, seems a little odd for you to act offended towards me...

Little32 02-23-2007 07:03 PM

Dude, not offended. You are the one who joked about having an aneurysm. I quoted you.
I mostly just hope that you will stop posting.

shinerbock 02-23-2007 07:47 PM

Little, I really hope you'll stop posting too, but it seems that isn't going to happen.

ladygreek 02-23-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1402903)
Lady, hence you not responding to my argument.

And....:confused:

shinerbock 02-24-2007 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek (Post 1402970)
And....:confused:

And...you can't show where my argument is flawed.

Little32 02-24-2007 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1403021)
And...you can't show where my argument is flawed.


No, she could show you. I could show you. Any number of people have already tried to show you. Trouble is you are not here to learn from or even to listen to what other people have to say, you are here to win the argument. It is beyond you to look at what other people have posted and say 'ok, I see where their actions might be construed as ignorant, racist, and needlessly provocative.' If winning is your only goal, you will not listen to reason; which is why you are not worth engaging in any serious debate.

shinerbock 02-24-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Little32 (Post 1403049)
No, she could show you. I could show you. Any number of people have already tried to show you. Trouble is you are not here to learn from or even to listen to what other people have to say, you are here to win the argument. It is beyond you to look at what other people have posted and say 'ok, I see where their actions might be construed as ignorant, racist, and needlessly provocative.' If winning is your only goal, you will not listen to reason; which is why you are not worth engaging in any serious debate.

Are you kidding? Are you here to listen? That must be why you say "dude, go away" anytime I say something you don't agree with. I'm all for open discussion, but people on here would much rather paint me as a bigot or ignorant for not agreeing with them. I've said several times I think it was probably a stupid and classless act, but I guess not using terms like "racist" or "ignorant" obviously means I'm not taking this seriously enough.

Winning isn't my goal, its just the typical byproduct.


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