The problem arises when the psychopaths take the information from roll call and use it for their evil purposes. On a public message board like GC, nobody can stop this from happening.

I'm really glad she didn't take anything further with me. Three distinct pieces of information are all that's needed to track me down.
Don't worry Chris; I'm sure Tippiechick will forgive you eventually. ( Or get you thrown out of ZTA.).

At least it would be her own sister - and therefore HER BUSINESS - instead of random old self-admitted impotent geezers on a message board.

People can probably get as much info about you on your myspace links on this site as they can your roll calls.

Tommy's been pretty silent on this whole matter, I wonder what he has to say about his BFF's psychopathological behavior this time...

Probably nothing remotely coherent, anyway.

That's probably why he's been silent. He knows if he comes to her aid he'll get thrown to the mob for the bullshit he pulled with the FORMER international president. I have a feeling he's hoping that we'll all forget that he pretty much did the same thing to me as well, only on a more subtle level. But we won't forget...nuh uh.

I'm actually quite surprised that MY contact/personal info wasn't put out there for everyone to see, you know, since my membership was so important that it had to spread it via PM last summer.

OTW
-who's still waiting for admission of guilt and an apology from both parties

I think you're going to be waiting for a loooong time for this. People like this never admit they are wrong. They twist the truth so far beyond the scope of reason, only their warped minds can understand their logic. The rest of us simply shake our heads and hope they get help.

Exactly - I don't think it's feasible for every member to be able to post or share enough personal information to confirm their membership in said organization; I think that reluctance throws up a red flag to a number of people on the board. It's a fine line between looking like a "perp," and keeping your identity sufficiently hidden so as not to jeopardize job/scholastic/outside interests.

If I had come to GC now at this point in my scholastic life and career, I probably would not have shared as much information about myself as I did when I first started on GC in 2001. The fact is that anyone with enough time on their hands can probably figure out who I am (not even mentioning the fact that I've met a handful of GC members in real life).

I guess I can understand both sides of it, and it comes out as a no-win situation. People want to protect their organization, but individuals want to protect themselves as well.

I don't think I was asking for roll calls to be banned or anything; I was questioning if they might be a bad idea because of how easy it makes folks to find out more about you. (not that they can't do it other ways by combing each of your posts, searching other sites, putting parts of pms together with other public information, etc. Roll call just might make this easier.)

And I thought that groups might make an effort at warning people that there had been problems with people crossing the lines in regard to other people's privacy.

I get the impression that this has happened more than once or twice, but maybe I'm wrong.

If membership verification serves a valuable service, maybe it would seem better to go to a confirmed list by user name. You verify with the moderator, and he or she can maintain a list of verified users just by "screen name" in the forum.


I realize that this doesn't help in cases of moderators who don't respect privacy, but it would be a way that verifying membership could be emphasized to new members, but they would feel comfortable to be more guarded with other information.

Oh, I'm no fan of psychopaths; I just think roll call makes things easier for them.

Given the post in the other thread, I wouldn't be so inclined to think that Roll Call threads were as much of a problem as just posting information about yourself in general. Which is kind of sad in a way, if you think about it. I mean there are tons of thread that are, "In this thread we list where we went to college or what county we live in or whatever." And apparently it would appear that if people want to use information like this against you, they just might. I mean, it wouldn't be difficult for example to figure out where I went to school, it's fairly obvious without much effort.

Everything that's in a roll call thread can be found in other threads or as people have previously stated through other means (Myspace, Google searches, etc...). If people really want this information about you to use it against you, they'll find it if you've somehow made it available regardless of the medium that you choose to display it. If you don't feel comfortable posting in the Roll Call thread, I would say that's your own personal decision, just as it is to reveal that your cat's name is Fluffy and he's a Tabby (I know nothing about cats or if you have a cat) in the "In this Thread we Brag About our Cats" thread or whatever.

Yeah, I agree that that's sad too.

I agree everybody should be discreet with their info. I think I was on GC at least a year before I revealed my affiliation.

Can someone explain, though, the need to "verify" people? I've never posted in a roll call thread and likely never will. But, I've never felt the need to question someone's membership either. It's not like I'll suddenly start discussing ritual or sensitive member only info online with a woman just because I've "verified" she's a sister.

But that's because you girls are bitches and you deserve to have perps and crazy people stalking you and calling your house!

I get that but I guess I only see perps as an actual problem if people are sharing info that they shouldn't otherwise be sharing. Anyone who perps is pathetic but it scares me more that people are sharing inappropriate info on the internet because they believe someone's a sister. If I don't personally know someone IRL I'm not going to share any more info than I would with any other random person.