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mccoyred 06-12-2008 07:26 PM

My hairstylist is a Jehovah's Witness. She informed me that they don't vote because if they do, then they are supporting man's government over God. You could have knocked me over with a feather! Especially since she retired from the Army before beginning her second career as a stylist....*shaking my beautifully styled head*

Senusret I 06-12-2008 07:28 PM

Understood. His not voting was reason enough for me to withdraw my support on a personal level.

KAPital PHINUst 06-15-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1667227)
I generally feel like all politicans are full of guamguam but I still vote for "the lesser of the evils" instead of writing in Donald Duck or Ralph Nader. I'd rather "give" my vote to the lesser evil than "take" my vote away by voting for someone who has no chance in hell of coming close to winning.

Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. I will not and will never again vote for evil.

As far as whether or not they have a chance at winning, well contrary to popular belief, I would rather treat my ballot as a ballot than as a lottery ticket or racing form, chances of winning be darned.

DSTCHAOS 06-15-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1668561)
Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. I will not and will never again vote for evil.

As far as whether or not they have a chance at winning, well contrary to popular belief, I would rather treat my ballot as a ballot than as a lottery ticket or racing form, chances of winning be darned.

Your candidate is still an evil. He is just the least influential of the evils. You don't know what this candidate is really doing and will do if in office. I'm an Independent because I believe all of these categories are pointless and none of these candidates should be trusted, regardless of party affiliation. That means that even third party candidates can send this country to hell.

Voting involves a number of bases for rational decisions, including the impact that your vote will have on the election. That doesn't transform it from a ballot to a lottery ticket or racing form.

jon1856 06-15-2008 09:59 PM

The other day I was having a general chat with the lady next door.
Turned to politics.
Long story short, she just can not vote for one of the candidates at all.
However she does not feel as if she knows the other very well.
After talking to her for over 20 minutes on how to find out more about both candidates and pointing out to her now that is is finally down to two, it is a sure thing that they will now be able to shine more; I walked away knowing that the only way she will "learn more" is if the candidates stopped by her living room in person!:(:mad:

KAPital PHINUst 06-15-2008 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1668565)
Your candidate is still an evil. He is just the least influential of the evils.

Trust and believe, there is NOTHING evil at all about Ron Paul. If he was so evil, why did the corrupt GOP spare no expense at shutting him out during the primaries, even by breaking their own rules along the way, and the MSM shutting him out of valuable news coverage? That alone should make you wonder who is the true evil is.

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You don't know what this candidate is really doing and will do if in office.
I know exactly what he is doing and will do if in office: He'll give the federal government, the neocons, and the status quo a major shake up and shake down.

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Voting involves a number of bases for rational decisions, including the impact that your vote will have on the election. That doesn't transform it from a ballot to a lottery ticket or racing form.
When you compromise your beliefs and principles for who you feel would make a great leader and settle for someone you find less desireable based on whether or not you think they'll succeed, you have indeed turned your ballot into a lottery ticket. And that to me is a "sheeple" mentality that I cannot accept.

DSTCHAOS 06-15-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1668576)
Trust and believe, there is NOTHING evil at all about Ron Paul.

I'm not buying it, especially from someone who is in love with Ron Paul and wouldn't be able to criticize him even if he was voting to reinstate slavery. ;)

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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1668576)
When you compromise your beliefs and principles for who you feel would make a great leader and settle for someone you find less desireable....

Don't leap too much. I think we're talking about two different things.

If I believe that no candidate can be trusted and they are all evil, and have the potential to send the country to hell, merely voting means that I am voting for the lesser of the evils. DUH. The point is to not vote based on party lines or because you are a FAN of a candidate.

The other point is to not vote for third parties simply because I'm an Independent and I think that that the two-party system is sucky. There are no party or candidate allegiances and that includes third parties.

ETA: My biggest thing about your continued "support" for Ron Paul is that you need to also consider what your vote will mean in the grander scheme of things. People have different reasons for supporting third party candidates. Yours is yours.

OhSoVeryLadylike 06-15-2008 11:00 PM

My uncle: Politics/Politicians are the DEVIL

And we all going to HELL for FOLLOWING those DEMONS.

KAPital PHINUst 06-15-2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1668581)
I'm not buying it, especially from someone who is in love with Ron Paul and wouldn't be able to criticize him even if he was voting to reinstate slavery. ;)

Obama/McCain will most likely do just that, but I don't hear you giving those supporters flak for being "in love" with them.

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Don't leap too much. I think we're talking about two different things.

If I believe that no candidate can be trusted and they are all evil, and have the potential to send the country to hell, merely voting means that I am voting for the lesser of the evils. DUH. The point is to not vote based on party lines or because you are a FAN of a candidate.
For the record, I have never voted based on party lines, and considering that over the 20th century, our country has received a string of substandard presidents who didn't give a dang about our country, our citizens, or anyone or anything that didn't directly benefit themselves and their selfish interests, it's pretty dang good to find a candidate to be even worthy enough to hold one of the most powerful offices in the world to even consider being a fan of.

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ETA: My biggest thing about your continued "support" for Ron Paul is that you need to also consider what your vote will mean in the grander scheme of things. People have different reasons for supporting third party candidates. Yours is yours.
To say the least, I have a sickening feeling that should martial law ever be declared, I'm gonna wind up spending my next Christmas holiday in a hoosegow.

DSTCHAOS 06-15-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1668612)
Obama/McCain will most likely do just that, but I don't hear you giving those supporters flak for being "in love" with them.

Then you've certainly missed all of my political posts on this board.

As much as you'd like to believe it, you're not getting special treatment.

KAPital PHINUst 06-16-2008 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1668617)
Then you've certainly missed all of my political posts on this board.

As much as you'd like to believe it, you're not getting special treatment.

I'll give you the benefit of a doubt on that one.

I don't read posts concerning other candidates, because AFAIC, it's Ron Paul or no one at all.

DSTCHAOS 06-16-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1668621)
I don't read posts concerning other candidates, because AFAIC, it's Ron Paul or no one at all.

That's your bias.

KAPital PHINUst 06-16-2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS (Post 1668622)
That's your bias.

Exactly!

(and unapologetically)

nittanyalum 06-16-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst (Post 1668576)
Trust and believe, there is NOTHING evil at all about Ron Paul.

I think that depends on your POV and how much you let the guy disavow his past:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.ht...5-4532a7da84ca

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...ers/index.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3721817.shtml

DSTCHAOS 06-16-2008 10:40 AM

Thanks, nittanyalum.

(I overlooked a lot because I didn't know Ron Paul was trying to get the Repub nomination.)


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